Do not post that it is better to make the yew longs and/or nats yourself.

 

 

 

This way of thinking does not take into account opportunity cost.

 

 

 

There is another thread on this subject here:

 

http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=705128

 

 

 

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Prices I am using:

 

Nature rune - 300gp

 

Yew longbow - 600gp

 

 

 

The method:

 

 

 

Irksol in Zanaris sells infinite ruby rings for 1012gp each which high alch for 1215gp.

 

(1012 + 300) - 1215 = 97

 

97gp loss

 

 

 

Yew long method:

 

 

 

Buy nature runes and yew longbows from players for 300gp and 600gp each.

 

(600 + 300) - 768 = 132

 

132gp loss

Good thinking 8-)

Amazing idea!

Ya, but you have to stand there all day buying 27 more every inventory, and you don't get fletching/runecraft exp (if you did it that way, and if you did it that way you make a profit :-$ ) also, you cant just keep clicking over and over like you can with Yews, people will stick with Yews because you CAN make a profit, and its easier.

good idea but , i prefere having 10 k NOTED yew long and merchanting while alching . but tanks for the info !!!

Not many people go and make yew longs for magic. I think this is the BEST method Iv seen so far, and I might just do it.

Ya, but you have to stand there all day buying 27 more every inventory, and you don't get fletching/runecraft exp (if you did it that way, and if you did it that way you make a profit :-$ ) also, you cant just keep clicking over and over like you can with Yews, people will stick with Yews because you CAN make a profit, and its easier.

 

 

 

That idea is flawed because it does not take into account opportunity cost. You could sell the nature runes and yew longs you make yourself and then do this method.

 

 

 

There is a trade-off with the extra time it takes using this method. You have to decide whether the extra time is worth the money.

Buying that many ruby rings is crazy. Also you can buy yew logs and BS and RC your own nats and make tons of XP.

 

 

 

Thanks though

Buying that many ruby rings is crazy. Also you can buy yew logs and BS and RC your own nats and make tons of XP.

 

 

 

Thanks though

 

 

 

In my last post I have already addressed this. That idea does not take into account opportunity cost.

You have to decide whether the extra time is worth the money.

 

Many, many things in Runescape boil down to a tradeoff between Time and Money.

 

 

 

One player might consider a fast but expensive method to be flawed because

 

of the cost, but another player might welcome such a training method.

 

or

 

One player might consider a slow but cheap method to be flawed because

 

of the speed, but another player might welcome such a training method.

 

 

 

You can see this kind of debate between "Failed Curses vs Fire Bolt"

 

or between "Buying steel bars vs Smelting your own".

 

 

 

Ultimately, it's up to the player to consider what training method works best for him.

 

Many players don't like to grind yet many of us are rather poor in game.

 

 

 

The best that we, the community, can do is to point

 

out the pros and cons of various methods.

 

 

 

Most of the time there is a lot of gray when it comes to a "best method"...

I agree with you, my title was a inappropriate. I have changed it.

you stole my idea, i already posted about that, lol.

I must be getting closer to obtain the "biggest RS loser" award or something....

 

 

 

I don't buy raw material, I chop my own trees (WC xp), I craft my own bs (crafting XP), I make my own longs (Fletching xp), I mine my own ess (mining xp), and I craft my own nats (RC xp), then, I high alch the buggers (mage xp).

 

 

 

 

 

Total amount spent: time to gather materials

 

 

 

Total amount gained: 779 per high alch.

 

 

 

Um, what's so wrong about that?

If you are losing money by using the Yew Long/High Alching method then you are doing in the wrong way. Why would I want to use your method which I lose 97 gp, instead of using the Yew Alching idea where I gain xp and money?

I must be getting closer to obtain the "biggest RS loser" award or something....

 

 

 

I don't buy raw material, I chop my own trees (WC xp), I craft my own bs (crafting XP), I make my own longs (Fletching xp), I mine my own ess (mining xp), and I craft my own nats (RC xp), then, I high alch the buggers (mage xp).

 

 

 

 

 

Total amount spent: time to gather materials

 

 

 

Total amount gained: 779 per high alch.

 

 

 

Um, what's so wrong about that?

 

 

 

nothing.....if you don't mind spending 2-4 days getting the supplies than 1 day to alch it all..

I personally alch the supplies I create if it's worth it. For example: Steel Platebodies.

This is good for the people who can't get all their own supplies for yew longs. 70 fletch, wc, 44 rc, takes awhile to get. Not everyone who has 55+ mage wants to spend time getting the requirements to get all their own supplies and then get all their own supplies to finally start alching.

I must be getting closer to obtain the "biggest RS loser" award or something....

 

 

 

I don't buy raw material, I chop my own trees (WC xp), I craft my own bs (crafting XP), I make my own longs (Fletching xp), I mine my own ess (mining xp), and I craft my own nats (RC xp), then, I high alch the buggers (mage xp).

 

 

 

 

 

Total amount spent: time to gather materials

 

 

 

Total amount gained: 779 per high alch.

 

 

 

Um, what's so wrong about that?

 

 

 

If you are losing money by using the Yew Long/High Alching method then you are doing in the wrong way. Why would I want to use your method which I lose 97 gp, instead of using the Yew Alching idea where I gain xp and money?

 

 

 

Please read my above post. Your method of thinking does not take into account opportunity cost. Please stop posting this.

 

If you are losing money by using the Yew Long/High Alching method then you are doing in the wrong way. Why would I want to use your method which I lose 97 gp, instead of using the Yew Alching idea where I gain xp and money?

 

 

 

Please read my above post. Your method of thinking does not take into account opportunity cost. Please stop posting this.

 

 

 

Happy - you are quite correct to factor in opportunity cost, however remember your audience here. Most will have no idea of what you talk and an explanation of the concept in your first post may help.

 

 

 

HTH

I make my own nats. So im gonna do this.

 

THANKS

 

 

 

 

 

rc 60

 

can use fairy rings

 

fast runner (agility 70)

I alched from 55 magic to 80 magic - I think this took roughly 30k alchs.

 

 

 

I bought magic logs for 1100 each

 

I bought bowstrings for 150 each (cheap, but I buy in any amount)

 

I bought natures for 285 each

 

I traded my supplies for magic longbows

 

 

 

Total cost per longbow: 1535

 

Alch value of a magic longbow: 1536

 

 

 

Even if you pay 200 per bs and 300 per nat (there is no reason to do this, you can get for cheaper if you try), you still don't lose what you do when you alch yew longbows.

 

 

 

yew schmew.

I alched from 55 magic to 80 magic - I think this took roughly 30k alchs.

 

 

 

I bought magic logs for 1100 each

 

I bought bowstrings for 150 each (cheap, but I buy in any amount)

 

I bought natures for 285 each

 

I traded my supplies for magic longbows

 

 

 

Total cost per longbow: 1535

 

Alch value of a magic longbow: 1536

 

 

 

Even if you pay 200 per bs and 300 per nat (there is no reason to do this, you can get for cheaper if you try), you still don't lose what you do when you alch yew longbows.

 

 

 

yew schmew.

 

 

 

Yep thats what I do too, except I buy mages 1k ea and bs 200ea and nats 300ea.

 

 

 

However, on your method, if one is banking the ruby rings, they would need a diamond every trip #-o ...in order for this to work, you have to stand there at the store all day alching

 

~Ddaanniiellh

 

If you are losing money by using the Yew Long/High Alching method then you are doing in the wrong way. Why would I want to use your method which I lose 97 gp, instead of using the Yew Alching idea where I gain xp and money?

 

 

 

Please read my above post. Your method of thinking does not take into account opportunity cost. Please stop posting this.

 

 

 

Happy - you are quite correct to factor in opportunity cost, however remember your audience here. Most will have no idea of what you talk and an explanation of the concept in your first post may help.

 

 

 

HTH

 

 

 

There is already a thread on that subject. I have linked there.

Great thinking! =D> Very smart of you releasing it too for people like me :wink: .

 

 

 

Edit:WOOT first compliment on this thread, can't you see he announced a better way then yew longs? You just complain, people like you make me sick -.-

 

 

 

Edit2:Then i mean the people who just complain about them being so much better and not the people who did not.

Awesome Idea! I absolutely love this update because there will always be new things to find. We'll still be finding new things in a month or 2 that we didn't think of now, its great :o