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Meefaleaf's guide to construction!

 

 

 

 

 

Table of Contents

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 1.0 Introduction

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 1.1 Basic information

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 1.2 What you need

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 1.3 Math

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 2.0 The 5k GP way

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 2.1 To level 5

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 2.2 99 Mining and 99 construction

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 2.3 Pros and cons

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 3.0 The Cheap way

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 3.1 To level 5 II

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 3.2 Level 5-59

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 3.3 Level 59-99

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 3.4 Pros and cons II

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.0 The speedspend way

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.1 To level 5

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.2 Level 5-33

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.3 Level 33-75

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.4 Level 75-99

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 4.5 Pros and cons III

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.0 MeefaleafÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s way.

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.1 To level 5

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.2 Level 5-59

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.3 Level 59-75

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.4 Level 75-99

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 5.5 Pros and Cons IV

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 6.0 In the end

 

ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãââ 6.1 Special Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

1.0 Introduction

 

Welcome to MeefaleafÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s Construction guide, V 1.4. Here you will learn the ins and outs of Construction training. Are you dirt poor, wanting some 100% free exp? Do you think 100 Million GP is too much to spend on a skill? Or do you have a ton of money, wanting the fastest Exp for a reasonable amount of money? Whoever you are, you can level up here!

 

 

 

1.1 Basic information

 

Construction is a very heavily suggested skill, and after a long wait, Jagex released this skill, to the delight of the runescape members. After a week or so, people died down, depressed that the skill was so expensive. Some players, like monkey mojeo, reached 99 within a week. Others couldnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t afford level 60. I did research, so when I came out of runescape retirement, I could enjoy my favorite skill. This guide is what I came up with.

 

 

 

1.2 What you need

 

You do not need much for this guide. There are four methods in this guide, so IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll give the requirements separately.

 

 

 

For the 5K GP way:

 

5k GP

 

A Hammer

 

A Saw

 

A Pickaxe

 

A chisel

 

 

 

For the Cheap way:

 

About 17M

 

A hammer

 

A Saw

 

Access to the stonemason in keldagrim.

 

A Buddy*

 

A crystal saw*

 

 

 

For the Speedspend way:

 

About 60M or

 

A Hammer

 

A Saw

 

An axe`

 

A crystal saw*

 

A buddy*

 

 

 

For My way

 

About 50M

 

A hammer

 

A saw

 

Access to the stonemason in kelgarim

 

 

 

ThatÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s about it.

 

* Optional

 

` Only if youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re cutting your own logs

 

 

 

 

 

1.3 Math

 

There are many mathematical points to be made. One important point is EXP per GP. For example. In this guide, the main items are youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re using are oak planks and limestone bricks.

 

 

 

Limestone costs 26 each, and gives 20 exp.

 

26/20=1.3 GP per EXP

 

 

 

Oak planks cost 250 each to make logs-planks. And give 60 exp.

 

250/60=4.16ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ GP per Exp

 

 

 

Oak planks cost 400 each street price. And give 60 exp.

 

400/60=6.66ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ GP per Exp

 

 

 

Therefore limestone bricks are about a quarter as expensive as planks, and one sixth the price on the street. However, oak is faster. The power leveling heart is:

 

 

 

Oak larders (2K each)

 

You can make 12 in a minute, meaning 5760 Exp per minute

 

5260 Exp in a minute means about 345.6K Exp per hour (!) minus whatever slows you down.

 

 

 

Attack stones (260 each)

 

You can make 12 in a minute, meaning 2400 Exp per minute, or 144k per hour, minus whatever slows you down.

 

 

 

So oak is much faster, but much more expensive.

 

 

 

2.0 The 5K GP way

 

This is the guide for the dirt poor, single minded, hard, and determined to do it without spending weeks getting funds. I do not recommend this option, but try it if you want.

 

 

 

2.1 To level 5

 

To start youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re brutally long journey to 99 construction, build two wooden chairs

 

a rug and torn curtains, and

 

a bookcase, level 5, yay.

 

 

 

2.2 99 mining and 99 construction

 

From level 5 to 99, youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll be mining. A lot. YouÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll need to run, run, run to the limestone, mine, mine, mine the stone, chisel, chisel, chisel the ore, and bank, bank, bank the bricks. Keep doing this, and then build decorative rocks until you go crazy, at level 99. Keep in mind; you WILL get level 99 mining in the process, so good luck.

 

 

 

2.3 Pros and Cons

 

Pros: Practically free!

 

Cons: You WILL go crazy

 

 

 

3.0 The Cheap way

 

This involves buying bricks at the mason, then building with them. Simple, faster then the 5K method, and cheap in terms of construction

 

 

 

3.1 To level 5

 

To begin, build

 

2 chairs,

 

a rug,

 

curtains

 

and a bookcase.

 

 

 

3.2 Level 5-59

 

Spend as much money as you can on bricks, and go to your house. Build a garden (1K) and start building and removing decorative rocks. They cost 5 bricks, and give 100 exp. which can add up fast. Assuming you carry a hammer, a saw, bricks, and a house teleport after that,

 

you should become level 8 after one load. Repeat this process for about 25 loads.

 

You will then be level 30. Hooray.

 

Now you can get the first servant worth getting, the cook. She takes a bit more cash, but increases you speed considerably. Go to your house with some cash, supplies for a bell pull, and bricks, saw and hammer. Build TWO bedrooms, and then build a bell pull. Now hire the cook in the servantÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s guild. Now you are in business. Summon your servant, and promptly build your decorative rocks until you run out.

 

Speak to your servant, and demand more bricks. SheÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll bring them, and keep telling her to get more until you're full. Now tell her to get more, and build rocks while you're waiting. SheÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll come back, and give you bricks. Tell her to get more.

 

Continue this until you are level 59. It makes sense to get a butler on the way.

 

 

 

3.3 Level 59-99

 

Hooray, you are almost level 60. Oak larders have nothing on you!

 

Okay, now that that's over with, onto the guide.

 

Now build a games room. Fun! Now stop making those nooby rocks.

 

You can now build limestone attack stones. More bricks = faster EXP. Keep building stone attack stones. They provide the fastest EXP of limestone items.

 

You will need to build 63804 to finally get 99. Good luck, and take a break, this will take a while.

 

 

 

3.4 Pros and cons II

 

Pros: a third as cheap as the oak method!

 

Faster then the 5K method.

 

Cons: Still slow

 

 

 

4.0 The Speedspend way

 

This is ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâtheÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ way to level up if you are loaded. Seriously. This is fast, effective, and EXPENSIVE. If you have 100M to spare, look here.

 

 

 

4.1 To level 5 again

 

like always, Two chairs, a rug, curtains and a bookcase. there really no alternative.

 

 

 

4.2 Levels 5ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ33

 

Like usual, buy and build decorative rocks. However, do this only to 33, not 60. it will take 35 loads of bricks to accomplish your goal.

 

 

 

4.3 Levels 33-75

 

Okay, now it becomes fast, furious, andÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ not cheap. Now you can make oak larders. Yes, oak larders! Not again! Make 2481 larders for level 75. That is 794 loads. Plug in your ipod for this.

 

 

 

4.4 Levels 75-99

 

Oak doors! Doors are your god from now to 99. Make, remove, make, and remove. YouÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll need to make 19,707 doors. that's 197,070 planks and 7885 loads. Enjoy.

 

 

 

4.5 Pros and Cons III

 

Pros: Mega fast!

 

Cons: Way expensive!

 

 

 

5.0 MeefaleafÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s way

 

This is the way I personally will get to 99 construction. ItÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s an intertwining of the guides.

 

 

 

5.1 To level 5

 

No contradicting here. Build two crude chairs, a rug, some torn curtains, and a bookcase. Welcome to level 5

 

 

 

5.2 Level 5-59

 

Just like in the cheap way, make and remove decorative rocks until level 59

 

 

 

5.3 Level 60-75

 

Again, like the cheap way, make attack stones. Make 4684 of them.

 

 

 

5.4 Level 75-99

 

This is the meat, so build and remove 19,707 doors until 99.

 

remember, 7885 loads.

 

 

 

5.5 Pros and cons IV

 

Pros: Not too slow, not too expensive.

 

Cons: not as fast as speedspend, or cheap as the cheap way.

 

 

 

6.0 In the endÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ

 

Get that skill cape yet? Keep trying, so you can show off and say ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅHa!ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

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WOW! if there was ever a response i could of hoped for, it was this. Thank you!

 

 

 

In response:

 

 

 

acquiring bricks:

 

well, assuming you have a good friend, you could run bricks with them, as in buy bricks, give to him, he trades noted, etc.

 

 

 

EXP per hour:

 

(EDIT: this was a miscalculation, promise got it)

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With stones

 

5 seconds

 

30 per minute

 

10 bricks each

 

200 exp per

 

6000 exp in one minute

 

360,000 in one hour...

 

 

 

 

 

okay, maybe a miscalculation...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 seconds, there are 60 seconds in a minute.

 

Thats 12 per minute.

 

12 x 200exp = 2400 exp in a minute

 

60 x 2400 = 144,000 exp per hour.

 

 

 

So, you already know that all your other calculations are wrong. <.<

 

Besides the fact that building the piece will already take more then half the time, its not consistent; you will have to wait for your butler include any lags, etc. but it doesn't really matter, that much exp with lime stone is impossible...

 

 

 

So, the average time would to build and remove the larder would be about 12seconds.

 

 

 

12 seconds, you would build 5 per minute

 

5 x 200 = 1000 exp per minute

 

1000 x 60 = 60,000 exp per minute.

 

60,000 exp subtract time waiting for butler, lag, anything else that slows you down About 50k exp per hour?

 

 

 

Assuming you are starting from level 60, 273,742exp and to get 99, you would need 12,760,689 more exp.

 

12760689/50,000 = about 255.2 hours

 

255.2/ 24 = 10.63 days of STRAIGHT playing to get 99.

 

 

 

 

 

Now for the 650k bricks.... lets say it takes 40 seconds to walk(your run doesnt last for ever) to the store, buy 27 bricks, then walk back and bank. So....

 

 

 

650,000/27 = 24075 runs...yeah...whos going to do that

 

so 24075 x 40 = 963000 seconds

 

963000/ 60 (secs) = 16050 minutes...

 

16050/ 60 (mins) = 267.5 hours wow...

 

267.5/ 24 = about 11.5 days of strait playing....

 

 

 

So together, you would need to play more then 22 days of strait playing. No eating, no using the bathroom :wall: , or anything. Dungeon doors sound good now, aye?

 

 

 

Even though you save about 60m, the time building everything isn't worth it. There is another guide that uses teak planks That requires about 60m to get 99 con using teak planks. This is fast and good exp.

 

 

 

Although I wouldn't recommend this for 99, it is a pretty good guide for lower levels . The part up to 60 was great, then the rest of the guide was....not so great. 8/10 for first half :thumbsup: , 4/10 for second. :notalk:

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great guide for cash effectiveness, nothing wrong with it.

 

 

 

However, I'll have to agree with Promise on this one, simply saving gp isn't quite enough.... not when you'll have to spend (if his calculations are right) 15+ days of straight playing (no breaks)

 

 

 

In my mind, after getting to level 60, everyone should ask themselves: which is really more valuable, my time.... or saving a decent amount of gp.

 

 

 

 

 

like Promise

 

 

 

8/10 for the pre-level 60. 5/10 for the post 60. You're doing what you set out to do..... but realistically, how many people will devote the time?

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bricking it

 

You MUST get access to the stonemason in Kelgarim for this guide; otherwise you need 100M+! You need 651,702 limestone bricks. This costs 29,326,590 GP.

 

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or you can mine it east from Varrock (on the way to Canifis) for FREE ::'(29M ain't really a guide for the poor lol, the highest i've made is 5M)

 

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bricking it

 

You MUST get access to the stonemason in Kelgarim for this guide; otherwise you need 100M+! You need 651,702 limestone bricks. This costs 29,326,590 GP.

 

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or you can mine it east from Varrock (on the way to Canifis) for FREE ::'(29M ain't really a guide for the poor lol, the highest i've made is 5M)

 

 

 

yeah, but who needs 99 mining? :?

 

 

 

There are some great guides on moneymaking here on tip.it, so look around.

 

 

 

ah yes, now the flaws come in, okay, here's my response.

 

 

 

Promise:

 

Well, 50k exp isn't that bad for cost effectiveness, and who said it'll be fast, it's still A LOT cheaper.

 

 

 

in response to the time of acquiring bricks:

 

well, you don't necessarily need to buy them all from him, you could hire workers to mine and chisel limestone for you, for a bit faster, or you could buy from other players. the forums are good for this.

 

 

 

now for exp per hour

 

 

 

Ah, theres my miscalculation! Now then, 50k exp per hour is decent for the amount saved, and 255 hours/3 hours a day (average) = 85 days. thats about 2-3 months of dedicated building. not bad for the 6M saved.

 

 

 

Now with the limestone aquiring math...

 

get a friend, and make sure he has 26 bricks.

 

 

 

your inv.

 

money, noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

 

 

his/her inv.

 

noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

you walk halfway, they walk halfway, trade noted for unnoted. now you go buy more, he banks. shaves time in half for those with friends. that's maybe "5.5 days of straight playing" or about a month and a half at 3 hours a day.

 

 

 

that totals about 3-4 months of construction. seems long, but hey, it's 99!

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bricking it

 

You MUST get access to the stonemason in Kelgarim for this guide; otherwise you need 100M+! You need 651,702 limestone bricks. This costs 29,326,590 GP.

 

-----

 

or you can mine it east from Varrock (on the way to Canifis) for FREE ::'(29M ain't really a guide for the poor lol, the highest i've made is 5M)

 

 

 

yeah, but who needs 99 mining? :?

 

 

 

There are some great guides on moneymaking here on tip.it, so look around.

 

 

 

ah yes, now the flaws come in, okay, here's my response.

 

 

 

Promise:

 

Well, 50k exp isn't that bad for cost effectiveness, and who said it'll be fast, it's still A LOT cheaper.

 

 

 

in response to the time of acquiring bricks:

 

well, you don't necessarily need to buy them all from him, you could hire workers to mine and chisel limestone for you, for a bit faster, or you could buy from other players. the forums are good for this.

 

 

 

now for exp per hour

 

 

 

Ah, theres my miscalculation! Now then, 50k exp per hour is decent for the amount saved, and 255 hours/3 hours a day (average) = 85 days. thats about 2-3 months of dedicated building. not bad for the 6M saved.

 

 

 

Now with the limestone aquiring math...

 

get a friend, and make sure he has 26 bricks.

 

 

 

your inv.

 

money, noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

 

 

his/her inv.

 

noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

you walk halfway, they walk halfway, trade noted for unnoted. now you go buy more, he banks. shaves time in half for those with friends. that's maybe "5.5 days of straight playing" or about a month and a half at 3 hours a day.

 

 

 

that totals about 3-4 months of construction. seems long, but hey, it's 99!

 

 

 

thats not in your guide, either way...i dont think you should burden your friends with a large task like that. My rate stands. <.<

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Best would probably be to get 50 construction with that guide (50 is required for demon butler, not 60 like your guide says), then get 44 runecrafting if you haven't got it and buy pure essence with all your money (unless you're filthy rich and would get more than required essences with your money. Also you can mine 1K pure essences if you're too poor to afford the essence) and craft nature runes until you can afford 99 construction with oak planks.

 

That way you can get 99 construction faster than following your guide to 99 along with a high runecrafting level and still time saved over after 99 construction.

 

If you think that's too boring/hard/long then you wouldn't make it to 99 with your cheap way anyways.

 

Sure it's cheap, but with some ways you can make more money in the time saved from doing it the faster way than you can save doing the cheap way.

 

 

 

I don't want to be harsh, but that guide is pretty useless if you think about it one step further.

 

But if you head for a small amount of exp or the lower level training it is still useful, but stay away from 99 construction with that way!

 

So I'll give it 8/10, it's good, but has it's flaws.

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well, assuming you have a good friend, you could run bricks with them, as in buy bricks, give to him, he trades noted, etc.

 

 

 

So together, you would need to play more then 22 days of strait playing. No eating, no using the bathroom frustrated , or anything.

 

 

 

yep....

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in response to the time of acquiring bricks:

 

well, you don't necessarily need to buy them all from him, you could hire workers to mine and chisel limestone for you, for a bit faster, or you could buy from other players. the forums are good for this.

 

 

 

Except that bricks range in price from 100-400 each on the boards. At 26 per brick, its good exp for the money--but the time costs are high, but when you look at 100 per or more, it is not as good.

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bricking it

 

You MUST get access to the stonemason in Kelgarim for this guide; otherwise you need 100M+! You need 651,702 limestone bricks. This costs 29,326,590 GP.

 

-----

 

or you can mine it east from Varrock (on the way to Canifis) for FREE ::'(29M ain't really a guide for the poor lol, the highest i've made is 5M)

 

 

 

yeah, but who needs 99 mining? :?

 

 

 

There are some great guides on moneymaking here on tip.it, so look around.

 

 

 

ah yes, now the flaws come in, okay, here's my response.

 

 

 

Promise:

 

Well, 50k exp isn't that bad for cost effectiveness, and who said it'll be fast, it's still A LOT cheaper.

 

 

 

in response to the time of acquiring bricks:

 

well, you don't necessarily need to buy them all from him, you could hire workers to mine and chisel limestone for you, for a bit faster, or you could buy from other players. the forums are good for this.

 

 

 

now for exp per hour

 

 

 

Ah, theres my miscalculation! Now then, 50k exp per hour is decent for the amount saved, and 255 hours/3 hours a day (average) = 85 days. thats about 2-3 months of dedicated building. not bad for the 6M saved.

 

 

 

Now with the limestone aquiring math...

 

get a friend, and make sure he has 26 bricks.

 

 

 

your inv.

 

money, noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

 

 

his/her inv.

 

noted bricks, unnoted bricks.

 

you walk halfway, they walk halfway, trade noted for unnoted. now you go buy more, he banks. shaves time in half for those with friends. that's maybe "5.5 days of straight playing" or about a month and a half at 3 hours a day.

 

 

 

that totals about 3-4 months of construction. seems long, but hey, it's 99!

 

 

 

thats not in your guide, either way...i dont think you should burden your friends with a large task like that. My rate stands. <.<

 

 

 

And I Respect that. I did my research to see what the absolute cheapest way to 99 construction was, and I created a guide solidly on limestone bricks. I Am simply proposing an alternative to the much more expensive oak and teak plank method.

 

 

 

Best would probably be to get 50 construction with that guide (50 is required for demon butler, not 60 like your guide says), then get 44 runecrafting if you haven't got it and buy pure essence with all your money (unless you're filthy rich and would get more than required essences with your money. Also you can mine 1K pure essences if you're too poor to afford the essence) and craft nature runes until you can afford 99 construction with oak planks.

 

That way you can get 99 construction faster than following your guide to 99 along with a high runecrafting level and still time saved over after 99 construction.

 

If you think that's too boring/hard/long then you wouldn't make it to 99 with your cheap way anyways.

 

Sure it's cheap, but with some ways you can make more money in the time saved from doing it the faster way than you can save doing the cheap way.

 

 

 

I don't want to be harsh, but that guide is pretty useless if you think about it one step further.

 

But if you head for a small amount of exp or the lower level training it is still useful, but stay away from 99 construction with that way!

 

So I'll give it 8/10, it's good, but has it's flaws.

 

 

 

That's brilliant. 1k essence will craft 1k nats, and that costs 500k. I assume you meant 1K ess as an example, so i think that's a great idea. I am most certainly NOT offended by any comments about my guide. (well... unless they start becoming flames)

 

 

 

 

I've just got back into runescape after a couple of years away (so not done construction yet) and I think this guide will be very useful for me to get to lvl60

 

 

 

Thanks

 

No problem ::'

 

 

 

Altogether, at a point, Oak planks ARE more effective. Personally, i would use them myself. judging by my ratings and comments, my guide to level 60 is decent, but 60+ is not. I am going to use my own methods until about 65-75, and then go onward with oak.

 

 

 

Reponses are great people, thanks.

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Well... can you make a thing for what it costs for 70, 75, and 85? Those are the levels I know most people would seek.

 

 

 

Not to bad of a guide, overall. 8.8/10

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what about the fact that butler costs are tripled by your guide?

 

 

 

in fact more, as normal butler is just as good as demon for making oak dungeon doors...

 

 

 

butler costs pushes your method up by 30 mil... whereas with oak dungeon doors its just 6.3mil.

 

 

 

so about half the cost still, but also about triple the time? worth it? no, i dont think so.

 

 

 

up to 60 though: :)

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what about the fact that butler costs are tripled by your guide?

 

 

 

in fact more, as normal butler is just as good as demon for making oak dungeon doors...

 

 

 

butler costs pushes your method up by 30 mil... whereas with oak dungeon doors its just 6.3mil.

 

 

 

so about half the cost still, but also about triple the time? worth it? no, i dont think so.

 

 

 

up to 60 though: :)

 

 

 

Yes, this is why i mentioned "not including butler" at the end of all sections.

 

 

 

 

 

I am in the process of TOTALLY revamping my guide.

 

 

 

2nd page WOOT!

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everyone quit at the same time?

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