I'd do it, not sure if i'd do it for the iPod, but hey if i had a million bucks for not voting forever I'd do it. A lot of people don't vote anyway, and in the end the electoral college decides anyway.

The BNP are not a serious party, they have a few council members, no members of parliament. Their political influence is worthless. The press just likes to show how stupid their policies are, which they are correct in doing so. Vote Conservative.

 

 

 

And no I would not give up my vote for an Ipod. I may give it up for one election for a yearÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s tuition. I do not see why everyone is saying votes are worthless; here in the UK some constituencies depend on twenty or thirty votes sometimes. Like where I live itÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s always a two horse race between the conservatives and the liberal democrats, and in some places a vote can make a big difference, maybe not on the overall party that is elected but definitely a difference in your local area. In America thereÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s always some vote on every damn civil servant position anyway, probably the reason why you have a low turnout.

 

 

 

Well I guess the reason they say is worthless is, if their in the US, the electoral colege decides anyway after the vote. They don't always go for the people's choice, like in the 200 election. Public votes gore, electoral college votes bush.

Right to vote is overrated, I would take a ipod.

our founding fathers would be proud

our founding fathers would be proud

 

 

 

They gave their lives fighting a bloody war for independence and liberty and the right to vote for their own representatives, so that their great-great-grandchildren could trade their democratic rights for an electronic gadget manufactured in Taiwan which plays music. :lol:

I find it amusing that if you commit a felony you loose the right to vote for life. Makes sense I suppose but it still seems kind of weird :-s

I find it amusing that if you commit a felony you loose the right to vote for life. Makes sense I suppose but it still seems kind of weird :-s

 

 

 

I don't think it really matters because I doubt too many felons would vote even if they didn't get that right taken away

I'd be willing to give up voting rights for a year to pay university fees (when I go).

 

 

 

iPod, probably not. Depends what politics is worth to you though.

Sounds like most people including myself are pretty much with this. :)

Because the leaders of the BNP are quite simply racist, its not political bias or brain washing.

 

 

 

Aside from that, their policies wouldn't work.

 

 

 

A quotation from Mr Griffin sums up the BNP's stance: "We believe not just that our people are different from others, but that such genuine diversity is worth preserving. It is not a matter of ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâsuperiorityÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ or ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâinferiorityÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢." - Nick Griffin

 

 

 

I'm not going to deny that the BNP used to be racist, but under Griffin in the past few years they have become an alternative to the main political parties who trade policies and brand anyone who doesn't want Britain overrun by immigrants racist. The latest immigration debate (last week) the main 3 parties said "we realise immigration is a problem and the people of Britain are concerned, but we're not going to have any real position on the matter because it will be seen as "racist"". It shows how scared the tories, labour and lib dems are of the matter when they didn't even invite the BNP to give an alternative, something mirrored by some of the phone ins.

 

 

 

Racial seperation and racism are utterly different things, the BNP stands for diversity and allowing real freedom of speech, something you're obviously trying to squash with the PC garbage.

 

 

 

http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/countering_smears.html Visit there, i'm not flaming you for misunderstanding the BNP, the anti BNP mob is sizeable. :wink:

 

 

 

homosexuality should not be promoted or encouraged

 

 

 

We believe that BritainÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s proud history of glorious achievements demonstrates that the British genotype is a valuable one and deserves to be preserved this implies other genotypes are lesser, maybe even deserve to ehem, no longer be preserved

 

 

 

No senior member of the BNP has any serious criminal convictions. Nick Griffin (its leader) was convicted of incitement to racial hatred a few years back, no serious convictions my [wagon]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may have succeeded in removing the skinheads and outright racism and managed to hide it behind silk ties and suits but trust me, the organisation you support is STILL intrinsically racist and will always be so.

 

 

 

The day the BNP is voted into power is the day I (White, english, middle class before you ask) leave. Hopefully every sensible person on this forum can see this organisation for what they are.

 

 

 

EDIT - im sorry im sorry I just have to keep posting these, all have been copied and pasted direct from the website

 

 

 

Asda were selling Halal meat on 6th November in the Colne Lancashire store. I have written a letter of complaint. Will let you know when I get a reply. oh no!!!! This truly is groundbreaking!!! What possible reasoning could this have rather then racism?

 

 

 

I read an article in the daily mail last week nuff said

 

 

 

societies which have become racially, religiously and culturally mixed have historically also been those in relative decline so, colour mixes = death of society now? Nice...

 

 

 

EDIT - number two, the image page is even better! (I apologise that I have to post these images mods/admins, I'm sure you realise these are not my views and that it to show the idiocy of the BNP, please PM me a reason if you feel you must remove them)

 

 

 

under the heading "the future of Europe - hopefully not!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

under the heading of "london returns the favour" (after the london underground transport bombs)

 

 

 

 

 

 

All this from just their website. Time to re-evaluate your political views methinks?

 

 

 

You seem to be mixing racial seperation to racism, they are entirely different entities, the BNP as a party is not racist, but the fact that the left wing + most newspapers bill them in that way attracts racists. I don't support racism and its a struggle for leaders such as Nick Griffin to attempt to rid the party of such people. By 2060 under current trends white people in britain are likely to become minorities in their own country, i don't want that to happen so im racist?

 

 

 

Funnily enough i found something on "youtube" in which Mr Griffin talks about muslims, it isn't racist and i think he comes across well on the matter. Have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjySWn40bXg

 

 

 

Its probably better that, if you want to continue talking about the BNP to pm me, it spends a lot of forum space.

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under the heading "the future of Europe - hopefully not!!"

 

 

 

 

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"The Austro-Hungarian Christian Democratic Empire" Nice...

You seem to be mixing racial seperation to racism, they are entirely different entities,

How?

I would.

 

 

 

I don't care very much for voting.

The right to vote in your current country, do you mean, or overall? I'm planning to move somewhere when i'm older you see... :x

 

 

 

I'm not sure what i'd give it up for. I'd like to say nothing but in good ol' shambolic falling to pieces england it hardly feels like my vote matters cause we're buggered either way. So for something big that would benefit my life greatly, say, giving it up for a great job placement, i probably would. For an ipod though, nah.

Not for an ipod no, but maybe foir a lifetime supply of clothes and chocolate :D

Well, it depends where you are. In some states in the U.S., your vote might not even count, so... :-k

Not for an ipod no, but maybe foir a lifetime supply of clothes and chocolate :D

 

You're right. An Ipod would be a frivolous reason to give up voting rights.

 

 

 

As for me, I'd think just as most people here. I wouldn't give up my right to vote for the rest of my life (not because of any particular reason), or just for a year for an Ipod, but I'd gladly give it up for a year's tuition in a good University (make it an expensive one, like Cambridge or Harvard).

 

 

 

To the guy below, select_a_use had an anti-Che image, portraying his anti-communist views. He's still anti-left, the only thing that changed is that he's now a blatant rightist.

You seem to be mixing racial seperation to racism, they are entirely different entities, the BNP as a party is not racist, but the fact that the left wing + most newspapers bill them in that way attracts racists. I don't support racism and its a struggle for leaders such as Nick Griffin to attempt to rid the party of such people. By 2060 under current trends white people in britain are likely to become minorities in their own country, i don't want that to happen so im racist?

 

I like the way you changed from che guevara to the bnp so fast :lol:

 

The information has been slapped right in front of you.

 

Vote conservative if you think the way you do,at least they have a chance of winning.

I would. :XD:

I would take the $1m to never vote again, and a years tuition to not vote just once.

 

 

 

Then they'll just tax you and leave you with $1 and say "Fooled again, Sucker!" and run away, laughing hysterically. Then you take that $1 and buy a candy bar and cry as you're eating it.

 

 

 

:(

voting does not mean much at all to me. im 18. i live in america. the question is

 

 

 

why vote?

 

 

 

the USA is in like 7 trillion in debt thats pathedic. so why vote? the USA is doomed anyways. no matter who gets to be president. its going to take forever to pay that off. and yet bush needs to shave his bush and get his Shat together. we are the only country in the world with out FREE health care. but instead of getting us that. we are worried about getting revenge on the dam pallies for blowing up one of our buildings. woo wee. its like this.

 

 

 

hey lets go spend 7 trillion on killing the dam pallies instead of saving 50m people from cancer...and people being sick.

 

 

 

wth bush man up and get your shat together.

 

 

 

sorry if i sound racist at any point in my post. i am not a racist.

No no no. That's just spitting on the graves of all the people that died to give us the right to vote.

we are the only country in the world with out FREE health care. but instead of getting us that. we are worried about getting revenge on the dam pallies for blowing up one of our buildings. woo wee. its like this.

 

 

 

That's not really true. :lol: USA is about the only western country that does not offer free healthcare to it's citizens. In some 3rd world countries, only about 1% of the population can even dream of affording to see a real qualified doctor.

 

 

 

And if I understood correct, you mean "palestinians". Actually, the USA gives them tens of millions of dollars in aid money every year. They just recently freezed it because the palestinians voted Hamas in power (which is considered a "terrorist organisation" even though they fund schools, hospitals, etc.. Just because they are also very capable of fighting Israel and are highly trained).

 

 

 

I really hope you didn't mean palestinians caused 9/11, all the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia (against which the USA hasn't retaliated in any way due to political and [oil]economical reasons)

Considering 70% of people in general don't bother to vote anyway it doesnt make much of a difference.

 

 

 

what i was thinkin :|

You seem to be mixing racial seperation to racism, they are entirely different entities, the BNP as a party is not racist, but the fact that the left wing + most newspapers bill them in that way attracts racists. I don't support racism and its a struggle for leaders such as Nick Griffin to attempt to rid the party of such people. By 2060 under current trends white people in britain are likely to become minorities in their own country, i don't want that to happen so im racist?

 

I like the way you changed from che guevara to the bnp so fast :lol:

 

The information has been slapped right in front of you.

 

Vote conservative if you think the way you do,at least they have a chance of winning.

 

 

 

The che guevara picture had a large cross through it, implying being anti guevara. :lol: Voting tory just because they have a higher amount of votes at the moment is stupid.

This is why Bush is president. Most of the Americans are [developmentally delayed]ed.

 

 

 

Ok, they're not [developmentally delayed]ed, but they still can't think straight.