Adam007 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I don't quite understand (even metaphorically) how your heart has actual control over oneself- can someone explain to me? It doesn't. It just represents the idea of acting on emotion rather than logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sycosis5 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Brain.The Heart would die if there was no Brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foooman Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Brain. Most people who know me in real life have just concluded I'm heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 My brain controls me. Every time my heart tries to take control, my brain (for better or worse) keeps me too firmly grounded in reality and reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember3579 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 For the most part, it's logic that I run on. One of the few things that would make me switch gears into pure emotion is if someone pissed me off to that extent. Trust me, that is NOT a good place to be. Bad things tend to happen to the person who caused that reaction in someone, and potentially whomever is pulling their strings, so to speak. You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579Aku Soku Zan. - ShinsengumiYou wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin64 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I just want to know where the whole idea of the heart controlling love and emotion came from. It's a metaphor, smart one. Seriously? And here I thought the heart really did provide emotion for people and tell them how to react in a situation :roll: . What I meant was where the metaphor came from. Why the heart instead of, say, the spleen? Command the Murderous Chalices! Drink ye harpooners! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful whaleboat's bow- Death to Moby Dick!BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Brain. There's always stories in the papers of lovers who have split up or something but one still loves the other and trashes their car to win them back ( :XD: ...was an actual story i read) but if they had went with their "brain" instead of their "heart", they wouldn't have done something stupid as they would have thought of the consequenses. Oh that totally reminds me of this Romeo and Juliet kind of instance, (this is a modern day love story, which is like, identical) So like, these two teens were in love, blah blah blah, but neither of their parents thought it would last and both pairs of parents despised one another. So instead of talking to their parents, the kids went to their favorite hill overlooking the city, where two trees stood on the top, and they friggin' HUNG themselves looking at one another as they died. ( :-s ) Ignoring the creepiness of finding two corpses staring at each other and hanging from nooses... But yeah, I mean, clearly any logical being wouldn't end their life prematurely for no reason. Rash acting upon the heart...bleh. I'd take intelligence over wearing my wildcat emotions on my sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I want to clarify something. Are we debating over which (the brain or the hear) DOES control you when you are in love, and the other DOES NOT, or that both of them COULD, but which does for US? Basically, are we debating using the given idea that the heart CAN control love, and DOES in some people, or are debating that idea? Hope somebody understands what I mean. :uhh: In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superson Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Brain.The Heart would die if there was no Brain. The Brain would die if there was no Heart. :P EDIT: sorry for double post =( In Soviet Russia, glass eats OTers. Alansson Alansson, woo woo woo! Pink owns yes, just like you!GOOOOOOOOOO ALAN! WOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 IMO, when you say heart, your not refering to the physical heart, but your own being, the pure essence in which one may call a Spirit. In that case, the heart is the only thing that can love, and has its effects on the brain. Therefor in that sense, I would say the heart. If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Being a recluse like the rest [okay, many] of you, I have a tendency to prefer the usage of the brain over the heart, but there's always going to be times when romance emotions get the better of my rational self, generally resulting in way too much pointless and irrational overthinking about myself and how I should act. Rash acting upon the heart...bleh. I'd take intelligence over wearing my wildcat emotions on my sleeve. You say that now while typing on an internet forum, but when you're around her... :P . I just want to know where the whole idea of the heart controlling love and emotion came from. It's a metaphor, smart one. Seriously? And here I thought the heart really did provide emotion for people and tell them how to react in a situation :roll: . What I meant was where the metaphor came from. Why the heart instead of, say, the spleen? Because it's the core of the body, the center of the soul. [Random trivia: The Latin term for heart is 'cor' :o! So ya, etymological connection, and stuff...] [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powman3 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Using the metaphorical meaning, I think it is your heart (basically the feeling of love in your cranium :lol: ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Being a recluse like the rest [okay, many] of you, I have a tendency to prefer the usage of the brain over the heart, but there's always going to be times when romance emotions get the better of my rational self, generally resulting in way too much pointless and irrational overthinking about myself and how I should act. Rash acting upon the heart...bleh. I'd take intelligence over wearing my wildcat emotions on my sleeve. You say that now while typing on an internet forum, but when you're around her... :P . Yeah...but I was around her. She asked me, we had some fun, and then it got in the ways of my studies. So whoosh. Out the door. High School relationships don't last anyway. Besides, your heart (the emotion of love) without the brain (the logic) is useless. If you only had the emotion of love without logic, you'd be falling head over heels a whole damn lot, if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'm guessing you're speaking metaphorically here and asking people if they proceed actions from their heart or their head, although not literally? If that is the case, heart most of the time with sensitive issues close to home. Even when I know the rational, cognitive decision would be better, I give in and try to always find the good in it. On the other hand, when issues are not so close to home and belong to other people, I can easily choose the cognitive road. The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordanFreeman Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I always think before I say/do anything (with few exceptions) so I guess I'd have to say my brain. It's kept me out of many bad situations, but has also kept me from experiencing many great experiences. I wouldn't change it though. "El que no arriesga no gana" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven_gaurd0 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I always think before I say/do anything (with few exceptions) so I guess I'd have to say my brain. It's kept me out of many bad situations, but has also kept me from experiencing many great experiences. I wouldn't change it though. I wouldn't expect much else from Mr. Freeman, MIT graduate from Seattle, defender of City 17, the downtrodden, and the Black Mesa resonance cascade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powman3 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 JD: Who knew someone could die from having a broken heart... *thinks* *in a medical room* JD: His heart is failing! Damn! *tries to revive him* JD: Get me a box of kittens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 It depends very highly on exactly who you are. There are some people who see the world through reason and experience little emotion and there are some people who see the world entirely through how they react to it emotionally... Most people fall somewhere between the two extremes. I happen to be one of the people who does not experience the world primarilly through emotion, prefering logic. That gives me certain advantages and disadvantages over people whos' views are more colored by emotion... but in the strictest sence neither is right or wrong, only different. To clarify my point, because I am not as affected by emotion it is very rare that I lose my temper and do something foolish because of it. However the tradeoff is that since I am not as affected by emotion I can not relate as much as I would like with other people, lacking a large part of the common experience that binds society together. Another advantage is that it is somewhat easier to choose to do what is best rather then what will make me feel best, so it is very easy for me to save money for the future or ignore company x's new advertising campaign... However to gain this advantage I forfeit being able to gain as much happiness out of life as people who are more heart-driven. There are many other tradeoffs between the two but I don't want to bore you with needless details. It ultimately boils down very much to what a person's personality pattern is whether they are heart or brain driven... And there are subcategories of both of these broad categories... and it is probably the case that there are no two people on the planet who are precisely the same in how this plays out in their lives and choices. "He is no fool who gives up that which he can not keep to gain that which he can not lose."--Jim Elliot "You must picture me alone in that room in Magdalen, night after night, feeling, whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me. In the Trinity Term of 1929 I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all England. I did not then see what is now the most shining and obvious thing; the Divine humility which will accept a convert even on such terms. The Prodical Son at least walked home on his own two feet. But who can duly adore that love which will open the high gates to a prodigal who is brought in kicking, struggling, resentful, and darting his eyes in every direction for a chance of escape? The words compelle intrare, compel them to come in, have been so abused by wicked men that we shudder at them; but, properly understood, they plumb the depth of the Divine mercy. The hardness of God is kinder than the softness of men, and His compulsion is our liberation."--C.S.Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 To clarify my point, because I am not as affected by emotion it is very rare that I lose my temper and do something foolish because of it. However the tradeoff is that since I am not as affected by emotion I can not relate as much as I would like with other people, lacking a large part of the common experience that binds society together. Another advantage is that it is somewhat easier to choose to do what is best rather then what will make me feel best, so it is very easy for me to save money for the future or ignore company x's new advertising campaign... However to gain this advantage I forfeit being able to gain as much happiness out of life as people who are more heart-driven. Stop reading out of my head o_O. Kinda creepy how well I fit your description... you wouldn't happen to be my long lost twin, would you? [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonpost Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 To clarify my point, because I am not as affected by emotion it is very rare that I lose my temper and do something foolish because of it. However the tradeoff is that since I am not as affected by emotion I can not relate as much as I would like with other people, lacking a large part of the common experience that binds society together. Another advantage is that it is somewhat easier to choose to do what is best rather then what will make me feel best, so it is very easy for me to save money for the future or ignore company x's new advertising campaign... However to gain this advantage I forfeit being able to gain as much happiness out of life as people who are more heart-driven. Stop reading out of my head o_O. Kinda creepy how well I fit your description... you wouldn't happen to be my long lost twin, would you? You're not the only one, reb. However, in about the last year I've learned how to really feel when I want to...something along the lines of a heightened sense of empathy. Ever watched that "Kiwi!" video on youtube? I cried for a few minutes after watching it... absolutely beautiful. Same thing goes for movies, oddly enough. I've never cried during a movie until recently. Though if I choose, I can go to my old self and merely examine things, no emotions attached. Runescape Name: "unbug07"Expand your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The brain controls you. The heart just pumps blood. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hey some nice posts. There is some difference between the Tip forums and the Runescape ones. I had this on the Runescape ones and it was filled with useless stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrington Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 The heart is just a muscle... the reason you feel love there I guess is that muscle control is influenced by hormones and various other chemicals in the body. When you feel a sudden sense of emotion towards someone, your body releases a host of chemicals that causes a reaction from your heart i.e. a sudden burst of speed. This is why the sensation feels as though it's coming from the heart... but it's all triggered by the brain, which is in turn triggered by other sensory input such as sight and sound etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus_77 Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hey some nice posts. There is some difference between the Tip forums and the Runescape ones. I had this on the Runescape ones and it was filled with useless stuff. Yeah well I could do with out all these people who misunderstood the question :| 76th to reach 99 Construction on 6th of February 2007379th to reach 99 Runecrafting on 4th of November 2007 Finally the secrets of goal achieving are revealed! (give my guide a read :^_^: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yea but it's still alot better then when I asked on the Runescape forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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