Why do people hate Torags so much?

[Drowncube]

I'm normally not irritated when people try to criticize me for wearing Torags, but lately (since the update it seems) people have been giving me an unusually hard time about it. I have no proof that the dislike for Torags in Runescape has increased in the majority of players, but to me, it seems like it has. Their comments are always half wit, but I get them so often now it's starting to get irritating. :wall:

 

 

 

So, unfortunately I've committed a few hours of brain time trying to figure out "why"? Why are players so biased against this armor when it looks great and (correct me with proof if I'm wrong) has the best defense stats in the game? Is it because it's so cheap and yet so good especially when mixed and matched that in the opinion of other players using Torags is just a case of gross 'noobish' indulgence? As opposed to toiling away making millions for more expensive sets and spending a few hours learning how to work with and around the relative set effect; I notice people will usually buy several Barrows sets to fit different situations instead of buying Torags, which is the best all around melee set I think.

 

 

 

Or is it just an old, nurtured hatred for 'tanks', and Torags because of the high defense stats is seen as 'tank armor'? Most people who make a negative comment about Torags are wearing a torso and dragon legs, obviously favoring strength boosts over increased defense, thinking anyone who favors different tactics is a noob. I've also noticed that the popularity of fighter torsos has exploded both as training (I also get more people ridiculing me for training in rune now -.- ) and PK armor, probably leading to an increased stigma against anything with decent defense bonuses. I think it's both this way of thinking and the above suggestion combined.

 

 

 

Any thoughts? Or does this not even seem like a problem to most of you? :?

[Zierro]

Is it because it's so cheap and yet so good especially when mixed and matched that in the opinion of other players using Torags is just a case of gross 'noobish' indulgence?

 

 

 

Yep probably. They just don't like the fact that you had to spend 1m on really high defence. Who cares what others think though? Torags is great armor. That's all that matters.

[spuriousmonkey]

I'm also wearing Torag. I love it. And it is even less than a million when just buying legs and plate. I get hit less, I can train more efficiently. I like the way it looks. It looks solid and reliable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, this week I had a person who thought it was funny I was wearing rune gloves. Apparently that wasn't elite enough either. Sorry, I can't be bothered to desert treasure. So I just have rune gloves. It did save me a lot of [cabbage]ty assignments for slayer though over the past two years.

 

 

 

(i hate questing)

[Ermy]

People don't like to hit 0's, they like to hit high and frequently, torag just stops that so therefore they hate you. you just need to come up with a random witty response when they give you a hard time.

[highlanders]

Guthan top + torag legs is smexier :lol:

[Alg]

Just ignore them. If they want to use their Dragon legs (60 def requirement) and Fighter torso (weaker than rune), let them. You'll be the one alive at the end of the match, I think...

 

 

 

I wouldn't know why it's hated, though. It's possibly the best defensive armor in the game so far. If that's the reason, though, it's a bit like the pure mentality.

 

But then, people tend to insult you if you don't die for them.

[pbpenguin5]

Personally, i believe it's hated b/c it's not that expensive anymore and the torag's set it by far the worst of the barrows. Then tassets arrived and now we have str boosting leg armor. Some people don't want they stuff degrading but i'd rather fix my torag's legs than get the 2x as much d legs and spend that on fixing it. Best def in the game simply cannot be argued with. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

If anyone is somewhat of a tank they probably own a pair so.

 

 

 

~Frzn

[schlecteresel]

ITs nooby cheap armour is all

 

 

 

I wear this

 

 

 

Guthans helm

 

Dh body

 

Dh legs

 

 

 

looks alotttt better exact same def

 

 

 

but about 2.4m

[spuriousmonkey]

I have full guthan and dharok as well. Cost is not an issue. I do wear amulet of fury and such with it.

 

 

 

If the stats are good, I will wear it.

[Giordano]

"Def noob!"

 

 

 

That my friend, is why. Most players have a hard time concidering something else other than strength. Its common noob stuff so just ignore 'em.

[Drowncube]

ITs nooby cheap armour is all

 

 

 

I wear this

 

 

 

Guthans helm

 

Dh body

 

Dh legs

 

 

 

looks alotttt better exact same def

 

 

 

but about 2.4m

 

 

 

It also costs over twice as much, and you look like an idiot because instead of using Dharok's Helm you're using a Guthan Helm, negating a good set effect just for a misguided sense of fashion :lol: . It's one of the most hilarious paradoxes I keep running into. Self proclaimed elitists suggest we use something more expensive, and less effective, instead of going for the better deal of cheap armor with the best defense stats in the game, which is what an intuitive elitist would normally do. Thereby wasting time, money, and HP catering to the bigoted standards of other players :roll: .How can you claim to be so experienced, and yet not have the slightest idea of what you're implicating by suggesting we use this armor combination. That, oh wise one, is the definition of "noob". But I don't mean to be offensive, on the contrary, you have my deepest thank you helping to spread such stigmas, it makes Torags just that much more original and helps to keep my win/lose ratio at the Duel Arena in a more than acceptable percentage. :twisted:

 

 

 

And to all who have supported and shared constructive feedback, thanks for posting I'm glad to see that most everyone here agrees with me. :

[highlanders]

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ITs nooby cheap armour is all

 

 

 

I wear this

 

 

 

Guthans helm

 

Dh body

 

Dh legs

 

 

 

looks alotttt better exact same def

 

 

 

but about 2.4m

 

 

 

It also costs over twice as much, and you look like an idiot because instead of using Dharok's Helm you're using a Guthan Helm, negating a good set effect just for a misguided sense of fashion :lol: . It's one of the most hilarious paradoxes I keep running into. Self proclaimed elitists suggest we use something more expensive, and less effective, instead of going for the better deal of cheap armor with the best defense stats in the game, which is what an intuitive elitist would normally do. Thereby wasting time, money, and HP catering to the bigoted standards of other players :roll: .How can you claim to be so experienced, and yet not have the slightest idea of what you're implicating by suggesting we use this armor combination. That, oh wise one, is the definition of "noob". But I don't mean to be offensive, on the contrary, you have my deepest thank you helping to spread such stigmas, it makes Torags just that much more original and helps to keep my win/lose ratio at the Duel Arena in a more than acceptable percentage. :twisted:

 

 

 

And to all who have supported and shared constructive feedback, thanks for posting I'm glad to see that most everyone here agrees with me. :

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At first you came off as the poor victim of people who don't like torags. And now you're the one that ridiculizing somebody else for wearing armour you don't approve of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Torag plate = guthan plate = dharok plate

 

Torag legs = dharok legs ~ verac skirt

 

 

 

All these are the same defence(except verac), you can mix and match them without losing any efficiency. As a side note, guthan helm's has better defence stats than dharok's, it's a fine choice if you don't mind paying 1m more instead of buying torag's. Other side note, you actually need the dharok axe for the set effect to work, not just the armour, and dharoking is useful only in certain situations. Last side note, he called torag's armour nooby(my heart is bleeding...) and you retaliated with calling him a noob. Sorry but you're the bad guy now, no more free cookies.

[spuriousmonkey]

I see I have been a bit stupid recently (or forever).

 

 

 

I actually carry around full guthan and torag plate and legs on slayer assignments. When I am not healing with guthan I wear torag legs/plate, with slayer mask.

 

 

 

I could have left the torag platebody home I see and just keep wearing guthan platebody.

 

 

 

Well, it isn't the first time that I discover I am being silly and inefficient after months of doing something a certain way. :oops:

[Numer0_un0]

Personally, i believe it's hated b/c it's not that expensive anymore and the torag's set it by far the worst of the barrows. Then tassets arrived and now we have str boosting leg armor. Some people don't want they stuff degrading but i'd rather fix my torag's legs than get the 2x as much d legs and spend that on fixing it. Best def in the game simply cannot be argued with. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

If anyone is somewhat of a tank they probably own a pair so.

 

 

 

~Frzn

 

 

 

Just FYI for everyone who thinks this, Torag is actually tied with Guthan and Dharok armor for melee defence. They're exactly the same.

[deathdude777]

actually, I have owned every single barrows item at least once, and guthans, dharoks and veracs(obviously) have LOWER defense than torags. TORAGS IS THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE GAME HANDS DOWN. If you don't believe my, you can check the tip.it barrows guide.

[obfuscator]

 

Yep probably. They just don't like the fact that you had to spend 1m on really high defence. Who cares what others think though? Torags is great armor. That's all that matters.

 

 

 

+10

[Alg]

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Just FYI for everyone who thinks this, Torag is actually tied with Guthan and Dharok armor for melee defence. They're exactly the same.

 

Really?

 

262.260.244 (t) = 259.257.241(g) = 252.250.234(d)?

 

Don't know, that doesn't look right...

[fencejummper]

I think it is because the Torag's stat effect is completely horrible. Any other melee set has a good effect, so you can wear the full set. Torag's is just not the same. Also a lot of times melee armor is for status. Hence 3rd age and bandos armor. People pay more to look better, torag's is dirt cheap.

[BabyPunchers]

Bandos Top+ Tassets+ Slayer Helm= Hawt and good def. :thumbsup: That's what i'm using atm.

 

 

 

But really there's nothing wrong with Torags. I used to use it myself.

[r4ngewarlord]

why i think its hated is beacuse its the only melee set without a cool speacil no offense but torags speacil is hopeless and the hammers aint that great but asides from that its a good amour set and ive got nothing against it.

 

but i do prefer dragon legs a rune plate because it dosent degrade or maybe a veracs brassard when skilling as imo it looks cooler

[MicroLegionnaire]

Probably because out of the 4 melee barrows sets, Torag the only one with a pretty much useless set effect. And yeah, coupled with the pure mentality that strength is more important than defence, and the fact that it provides so much defence for so little (relatively).

 

 

 

But I use Dharoks. One, it provides just as much defence, two, if I ever feel like Dharoking, I just swap my whip for my greataxe. It is marginally more expensive though.

[Dazzuh]

I use torags. It's good, cheap armour and I personally think it looks alright.

 

 

 

I haven't really experienced any hatrid for wearing torag personally, infact i don't think i've ever had any bad remarks for wearing it.

[being_true]

i havent worn torags for a long time and havent worn ne sets in hd cuz

 

i tend to lagg alot but i have owned all sets before and although i prefer

 

veracs and dharoks torags is great def and when u dont need set effect

 

it works perfectly either they are just too stupid too see it or they cant

 

afford nething that not free *hince the torso*

 

 

 

and no not everyone is who doesnt like torags is stupid only the ones who cant

 

see its good def :shame:

[reaper88888]

0mg bcuze any1 who us3s 7oRag5 iS a st00pid d3fens n00bie!!1!....

 

 

 

 

 

At least, that is the impression I get whenever I use it.. I still don't understand this notion that strength is the only combat skill that matters. :?

[Patson138]

It seems as though, it would be cheaper just to get Guthans Body and Skirt.