100% f2p - an achievement?

[Amaranth_GTO]

In your eyes, is getting x level in f2p more of an achievement than it is in members, and is being 100% f2p an achievement in itself?

 

 

 

I'd say no. Just because you got a level in f2p, like 99 fishing, does not mean it's more of an achievement than getting 99 fishing in a members world. Sure, the f2per might be more proud of their level, but they still achieved the exact same thing.

 

 

 

I'd say no to 100% f2p being an achievement too. Just because you achieved your levels with restrictions, doesn't mean that having those levels are more of an achievement than if someone got them in members. they're the exact same levels, and the exact same achievements.

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not trying to bash f2pers, or start a flame war, so please don't turn this into a f2p bashing flamefest.

[Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien]

i agree, i see heaps of people flame my lvls because im a member, they say things like, o my gosh ur liek not as gud as meh cuz u r z mem, if i can afford to get an edge ina game i enjoy then why not :

[db300]

I am one of those people who don't expect extra recognition for achieving a level while being f2p. While I do think it is more difficult, in the end it is our choice so it shouldn't warrant too much more praise than a p2p level.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see where all of the p2p-f2p hostility comes from anyways.

[anim7]

didnt this thread get locked sometime ago?

 

 

 

anyway, i think that like console games, there are certain levels of difficulty. IE, halo 3 has a difficulty setting of "legendary" which is pretty hard to beat. Thus, if a player beats the game on legendary, then I see it as a bigger achievement than the player who plays the game on normal. Though the end result is the same, the latter took the easier way.

 

 

 

Similarly, there is a difference between f2p and p2p in that f2p restrict themselves to a harder style of gameplay. Thus, a 99 rc'er in f2p had to do a lot more work than a 99 rc'er in p2p.

[Levon_]

All achievements in Runescape are just the same clicking pattern done over and over. Getting a 99, ect in f2p requires more clicking, which makes it an achievement that is harder to accomplish, and should be more valued, imo, than the same achievement, with half the clicking ect. in p2p.

[Zierro]

I agree with you. The end result is what I look at. Honestly, no offense to F2Pers but $5 really isn't that hard to earn at all. That's less than one hour of working. And if you're little - save your tooth fairy money. ;)

 

 

 

Like someone said, if you are able to use an edge to help you complete your goal more efficiently (without cheating) then why not? Isn't planning everything out and finding the most effective way part of the achievement too?

[kam42705]

It is...

 

 

 

As a "100% F2P" myself, I'll agree with the above post- it's not an achievement at all... Quite honestly, it just says that you weren't willing to fork over the money, or you're too cheap. And I was the former...

[amitoz]

No, it's not.

[whitetalonn]

while one thing is true, that f2pers have to work much harder than members to get their items and lvls, members are the ones paying jagex. without their money, rs wouldnt exist :P

[Ryuuka]

i see it as an achievement, maybe not as as its better then p2p but still it deserves respect tbh 99 rc or prayer f2p = way harder

 

 

 

if i can afford to get an edge ina game i enjoy then why not :

 

 

 

not to bother you but isnt that the think gold farmers say to get customers? "if you got the money why not get an edge" anyways its not a part of discution

[Tim]

its more of a yes/no thing. no they shouldnt get extra as you HAVE gotten the same result however they did get that level with "slight" disadvantage. i'd say it should be respected just the same as a member getting 99 and vice versa to F2P. :

[Eddo89]

It is fair to say F2P got it harder, especially RC and prayer. But one thing not taken into account so far is that F2P also have less skills to train on. They also have less mini-games to play. So probably more of their time is devoted to the slow grinding of the skill. And I feel is only fair that members have it quicker as they pay for everything else in members as well.

 

 

 

So I don't think is entirely fair to say F2P is 99 is a bigger achievement. Possibly even if you got a higher level in a skill doesn't mean you are necessarily superior, as there is so much more to do in members.

 

 

 

You really can't claim you are superior just because you didn't do anything something that is perfectly within the rules of the game. Is not a member's fault for getting members, is a F2P's problem for not getting it.

[Crimsonsmash]

some skills, such as rc and prayer, are more of an achievement in f2p due to the increased difficulty to train them

 

 

 

being 100% f2p is not an achievement in itself but I for one am quite proud of the fact that I've never been been f2p

[doomy]

No.

 

99 Rc- P2P or F2P, I believe are worth the exact same repect.

 

 

 

It is definately fair to say F2P did it the harder way, but the diffuculty in achieveing the same feat, whether varying from easy to hard, is worth the exact same thing in my books, due to the achievement being the same thing.

 

 

 

But I base things not on the Journey but the achievement, I'm sure many people feel that the other way is better (rating the journey not the achievement), either rating the longer way or the shorter way more highly.

[legilgalad2]

tbh staying 100% F2p just shows your acheivement of not forking out money to play the game.

[rook_2222]

100% F2P. It's an achievement, but not something to brag about. My siggy says F2P for life, but it's not something I go around showing off about it.

 

 

 

I stay F2P not because I can't afford it and not because I'm cheap. I stay F2P because P2P would in a way "force" me to play more.

 

 

 

Whenever you pay for something, you want to get the full benefits from it, not just use it every now and then. Same thing with paying. If I bought membership, it would influence how long I am on the computer and how long I play RS. The psychology for me is "I payed $5 for this, I'm going to play for as long as I can to get the most out of it."

[upthebanner]

Im with Eddo89 on this one. F2p is much more of a grindfest because that is mainly all there is to do. This actually results in it being as easy to level in f2p as members.

 

It is because I do not have to do quests etc that I will always be f2p. I have a goal in sight ie 99s in all f2p skills. I only have 4 but that means I will be able to retire relatively soon with my goals achieved. It would absolutely drive me nuts to suddenly find JAGeX had introduced a new f2p skill.

 

So both are accomplishments in completely different ways. Do I personally feel I have accomplished anything by getting a 99 in mining. No not really its just a means to an end.

[De_Lille_D]

If you manage to pass an exam, with both arms tied to your back, is that an achievement?

 

 

 

Personally, it's all personal opinion (i think the person who did the exam would think so). Most F2Pers will say it is, most P2Pers say it isn't (they passed the same exam after all) ...

[vivimancer]

I think the end justifies the means so what does it matter if you've got that shiny level 99 by f2p or p2p?

 

 

 

 

 

while one thing is true, that f2pers have to work much harder than members to get their items and lvls, members are the ones paying jagex. without their money, rs wouldnt exist :P

 

 

 

Well f2p'ers technically 'pay' for their play by advertising.

[Greedy]

In your eyes, is getting x level in f2p more of an achievement than it is in members, and is being 100% f2p an achievement in itself?

 

 

 

I'd say no. Just because you got a level in f2p, like 99 fishing, does not mean it's more of an achievement than getting 99 fishing in a members world. Sure, the f2per might be more proud of their level, but they still achieved the exact same thing.

 

 

 

I'd say no to 100% f2p being an achievement too. Just because you achieved your levels with restrictions, doesn't mean that having those levels are more of an achievement than if someone got them in members. they're the exact same levels, and the exact same achievements.

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not trying to bash f2pers, or start a flame war, so please don't turn this into a f2p bashing flamefest.

Nah, i don't share the same thought. I think you are make up some arguments to say 'a skill on 99 is the same on P2P as F2P', to speak to yourself 'i did the same hard work'. Wich isn't true, it's the mental aspect. When going on your way to a 99 on free world, the road is much longer and have to push yourself more to the end. It annoyed me a lot when a member said said to me; 'Ha! i did that in a week on willow's with a dragon axe!'. Because it took me personally 3 month to get 99 wc full on yew logs. So i really missed some respect from that member player.

 

 

 

I read many times here that some skillcapes are not anymore an achievement, but that's totally not a point on free world.

[Great_one]

its not, like really here is your argument "i dont want to pay $5 a month for members so that means that its harder for me to level and i deserve respect! im going to go gloat in a bunch of ppls faces that i am in no way helping runescape stay afloat or advance"

 

 

 

and dont even say adds because its not like to go to a flash gaem site and say. "yep im helping them, they should give me some stock or something because i watched that add!"

[Balazeal]

I'd say no to 100% f2p being an achievement too. Just because you achieved your levels with restrictions, doesn't mean that having those levels are more of an achievement than if someone got them in members. they're the exact same levels, and the exact same achievements.

 

 

 

Comparatively, think of it this way. Two men run a marathon. The first man, is allowed to take short cuts which allow him to finish faster. The second man is not allowed to take these short cuts. In the end, they both finish the race.

 

 

 

When leveling is put into a similar perspective, do you see how some people believe that getting X level in members devalues the achievement? I personally am impartial. I do not think that getting X in F2P is more praise worthy and at the same time I do not think that getting X in P2P is any less praise worthy.

[MessyMaster]

ehh in 100% f2p and i do see it as a great achivement. but i do not try to rub it in people faces. sure when someone comes up to me and says how stupid i am that i have such a low lever in this or my overall is bad, i do point it out.

 

 

 

okay something that nobody mentioned is the overall level. a member gets level 30 in all the skills, and a free player has to get 48 in all. then the member rubs it in his face. what do you expect. look at the highscores and try to find a free player. look at the member just ahead of him. almost all the time, the free player has more exp. higher level f2p always get bs from high members that decide to rip on them because they havent been playing are as long and "better". i understand fellow veterans respect us but yeah. remember the overalls, everything else was just a rant im sorry

[obfuscator]

i think that it is an acheivement because almost all skills are significantly slower to train in f2p than p2p, therefore they spend more time, effort and money on the lvl...

[oegly41]

It is harder to get a certain level in F2P, which makes it a greater achievement. Bragging about it is something else; I am personally against bragging no matter how hard it was to get 70 woodcutting.

 

 

 

a member gets level 30 in all the skills, and a free player has to get 48 in all. then the member rubs it in his face.

 

We should perhaps take into consideration that when you have level 30 in a skill, it's easier to get level 48 than getting level 30 in a new skill.