August 29, 200817 yr ^ I have no idea what to say to that honestly -.- . Though, it would make sense that she can do this as it would match Saradomin Strike if you multiplied it by 2.5 and gave it a nice dose of Verac. Though, if she can also pierce magic prayer (isn't that what you are supposed to keep on while fighting Zilyana?) that makes her the third monster to be able to pierce prayers. 3rd? Who's the second? Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy.
August 29, 200817 yr 'Kril and Goraks are the other 2 i believe...(Unless Kril's attack doesn't count) ~Dan : 1437 : 173Lowest Combat to 1,000 Total in F2P (23 Combat)Check me out on YouTube!
August 30, 200817 yr Ugh, i forgot about goraks, i was counting verac as well. and yes, i was counting K'ril.
August 30, 200817 yr So that would make her the 4th. OT: I've never experienced this either, and I think it's just a bug, or you've been on the trip for a bit too long :thumbsup: Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA)
August 30, 200817 yr Author It could be that you panicked when she attacked you, and in a rush to get away didn't realize your prayer running out. But I think its more likely a very rare glitch or you didn't realize your prayer getting low. I've never had this happen to me whenever I've been at Zil. But you shouldn't get hit by her melee attack anyway ;) When you lagg sometimes, she does get to you. Infact you click away, and the lagg somehow draws you a bit towards her. Anyhow if my prayer went out, then it would have been "0", and not in 30s. I think it can be possible that i somehow, mysteriously clicked a place that turned prayer off? But thing is: i doubt that. Cause it happend twice, and i had nowhere my "Prayer" spellbook up. As for panicking. I have been to boss alot, and find her the most fun boss of all. Infact 2 trip ago i died lol, team blessed: i got all stuff ready (from bank) and went to get stuff back+rejoin my team. That says how calm i can be at boss. But if i lagg, then i will be annoyed lol, but hey what can i do about that :wall: I will be going to Saradomin again, soon (have been getting 79 summ) and ill report back if this happens again.
August 30, 200817 yr I get the impression that you enjoy the Saradomin GWD, and that you make frequent trips, and have been for a while. However, I'd bet that there are plenty of GWD'ers who are far more experienced than you (I'm talking about Artemis, Soma, etc, etc). People who have gotten perhaps double or triple the amount of kills that you have, have never experienced this, and if they have, they've never mentioned it. When you consider that these people have very detailed guides on the subject, I highly doubt they've simply decided to leave this information out. Am I calling you a liar? Absolutely not. I'm saying that your imagination has gotten the best of you. There could be any number of reasons, but I guarantee you that it's not some super-secret-OMG-special ability. Should a more seasoned boss hunter come along and tell me otherwise, I'll change my views. Until then, I rest my case. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
August 30, 200817 yr Well I've never noticed this before, I went today and didn't notice anything unusual either.
August 30, 200817 yr Usually when I lag/switch screen/go to a new area, and when I switch from for example prayer to inventory, my prayer sometimes just switches itself off for some reason. I'm no GWD'er, but thats my theory, it happened to me quite a few time in my carreer. Interrested in joining the cabbagy madness? Click here to go to our forums, and say hi ^^lol one of the biggest pvp updates of the year, and tip it is discussing granite
August 30, 200817 yr Author I get the impression that you enjoy the Saradomin GWD, and that you make frequent trips, and have been for a while. However, I'd bet that there are plenty of GWD'ers who are far more experienced than you (I'm talking about Artemis, Soma, etc, etc). People who have gotten perhaps double or triple the amount of kills that you have, have never experienced this, and if they have, they've never mentioned it. When you consider that these people have very detailed guides on the subject, I highly doubt they've simply decided to leave this information out. Am I calling you a liar? Absolutely not. I'm saying that your imagination has gotten the best of you. There could be any number of reasons, but I guarantee you that it's not some super-secret-OMG-special ability. Should a more seasoned boss hunter come along and tell me otherwise, I'll change my views. Until then, I rest my case. I really don't care about who a person with great guides or experienced say. I don't leave my thoughts about it just cause some guy like Artemis for example: hasn't mentioned it. And no i don't it's a ability. But i do believe it is a glitch of some sort. For your info: i sent Artemis a thread about his thoughts about if Mele or Ranging would be effective for Saradomin after AI Update. He never responded. I sent him it cause he was "Experienced" and so was i myself, but i wanted to discuess with him. All i got was no respond back. So whoever a person is, i do not put their oppion before mine. Someone spread a rumour at beginning of GWD: that bandos boss poisons. I don't know who, but i myself found out that was untrue.... So just cause someone experienced and known on these forums haven't experienced something: dosen't mean it isn't there. As for me being liar: i highly doubt i am. But as i have said: i have not panicked, my prayer didn't went out. and i did not misclick prayer off. So i am really really annoyed myself, what happend. Could it be that i clicked a area: that somehow turned my prayer off? Could that be why, and could that be a bug? Beats me. I am just trying to see if this has been noticed by others or what it can be. For your info: i have had a connection where i lagged 3 times more than usual, and still managed to be with my team and kill boss. I didn't die, and i did farily great: that should say how experienced i am. Oh, and i have been at sara more than 40+ trips...
August 30, 200817 yr I get the impression that you enjoy the Saradomin GWD, and that you make frequent trips, and have been for a while. However, I'd bet that there are plenty of GWD'ers who are far more experienced than you (I'm talking about Artemis, Soma, etc, etc). People who have gotten perhaps double or triple the amount of kills that you have, have never experienced this, and if they have, they've never mentioned it. When you consider that these people have very detailed guides on the subject, I highly doubt they've simply decided to leave this information out. Am I calling you a liar? Absolutely not. I'm saying that your imagination has gotten the best of you. There could be any number of reasons, but I guarantee you that it's not some super-secret-OMG-special ability. Should a more seasoned boss hunter come along and tell me otherwise, I'll change my views. Until then, I rest my case. I really don't care about who a person with great guides or experienced say. I don't leave my thoughts about it just cause some guy like Artemis for example: hasn't mentioned it. And no i don't it's a ability. But i do believe it is a glitch of some sort. For your info: i sent Artemis a thread about his thoughts about if Mele or Ranging would be effective for Saradomin after AI Update. He never responded. I sent him it cause he was "Experienced" and so was i myself, but i wanted to discuess with him. All i got was no respond back. So whoever a person is, i do not put their oppion before mine. Someone spread a rumour at beginning of GWD: that bandos boss poisons. I don't know who, but i myself found out that was untrue.... So just cause someone experienced and known on these forums haven't experienced something: dosen't mean it isn't there. As for me being liar: i highly doubt i am. But as i have said: i have not panicked, my prayer didn't went out. and i did not misclick prayer off. So i am really really annoyed myself, what happend. Could it be that i clicked a area: that somehow turned my prayer off? Could that be why, and could that be a bug? Beats me. I am just trying to see if this has been noticed by others or what it can be. For your info: i have had a connection where i lagged 3 times more than usual, and still managed to be with my team and kill boss. I didn't die, and i did farily great: that should say how experienced i am. Oh, and i have been at sara more than 40+ trips... I think that says alot about your team for than you,tbh. OT: It's most likely the saradomin strike or just a glitch. Corporeal Drops:2xHoly elixersBandos Drops: Bcp(soloed) 5x hilts 8x tassets Armadyl Drops:Armadyl Hilt(trio)Zamorak Drops: 2xZamorakian spear 3x Steam battlestaff
August 30, 200817 yr I really don't care about who a person with great guides or experienced say. I don't leave my thoughts about it just cause some guy like Artemis for example: hasn't mentioned it. And no i don't it's a ability. But i do believe it is a glitch of some sort. Thank you for clarifying that you think it's a glitch. For your info: i sent Artemis a thread about his thoughts about if Mele or Ranging would be effective for Saradomin after AI Update. He never responded. I sent him it cause he was "Experienced" and so was i myself, but i wanted to discuess with him. All i got was no respond back. So whoever a person is, i do not put their oppion before mine. Someone spread a rumour at beginning of GWD: that bandos boss poisons. I don't know who, but i myself found out that was untrue.... I'm sorry to hear that Artemis didn't reply to your message. Truly sorry. It's extremely ignorant to consider your opinion of all other opinions. Thank Guthix that you went to the Bandos GWD to prove that the Bandos general does not poison! How would we have known otherwise?! So just cause someone experienced and known on these forums haven't experienced something: dosen't mean it isn't there. Very true, yet you're the first player to notice? As for me being liar: i highly doubt i am. But as i have said: i have not panicked, my prayer didn't went out. and i did not misclick prayer off. I didn't say you were a liar. You very well could have made a mistake, as you said. So i am really really annoyed myself, what happend. Could it be that i clicked a area: that somehow turned my prayer off? Could that be why, and could that be a bug? ...or could you have imagined it? Beats me. I am just trying to see if this has been noticed by others or what it can be. No, apparently it hasn't. For your info: i have had a connection where i lagged 3 times more than usual, and still managed to be with my team and kill boss. I didn't die, and i did farily great: that should say how experienced i am. Actually, that doesn't say a whole lot of anything, but good job on finding a decent team that can hold their own without you. Oh, and i have been at sara more than 40+ trips... Wow. That's a lot less than I was expecting. When I mentioned that there are players with two or three times as many kills as you, I was wrong. It's far more than that. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
August 30, 200817 yr So my question is: could it be that Zilyana has a rare special attack/ability? No. I've been there a lot and this has never happened, if it had a special attack or something it would happen multiple times/trip. Come to #tip-it on Swift IRC, if you're cool
August 30, 200817 yr Firstly, no she does not have a special ability that turns prayer off. That IS the kind of thing Jagex would tell us about, and it IS the kind of thing that people would notice. So you either lagged and it turned off, you accidentally clicked it, or it was some type of glitch. Btw, Artemis doesn't play anymore so don't expect an answer from him. ...and please stop misusing colons.
August 30, 200817 yr Seriously. All of your threads suck. Zilyana has no special attack that turns off prayer. There's cake through here, apparently.
August 30, 200817 yr Author Thank you for clarifying that you think it's a glitch. I did not say it was a glitch or ability: as for title: i was gonna add glitch=but to long. I'm sorry to hear that Artemis didn't reply to your message. Truly sorry. It's extremely ignorant to consider your opinion of all other opinions. Thank Guthix that you went to the Bandos GWD to prove that the Bandos general does not poison! How would we have known otherwise?! He was on the other day after my post: and my oppion is as much worth as everyone else. I never said more or less, so don't twist around what i say. As for Bandos, t hat was a point with message: the message is: never relay always on others. When i posted that thread to Art, i expected a respond as equal. and really had great expections to him :D But i didn't get respond. And that's same Art, as your speaking of. Don't be sad and go and make things like that. It's flame starter and you know it. Very true, yet you're the first player to notice? I just posted what i experienced, is that so hard to understand? No, apparently it hasn't. I see that, thanks. Actually, that doesn't say a whole lot of anything, but good job on finding a decent team that can hold their own without you. I am leader of my team, and my team is not a stupid random made one. As for lagging, i shoot arrows+runed+ killed with my team during lagg. Lagg=is not disconnecting or loging out, so i was there whole time. Wow. That's a lot less than I was expecting. When I mentioned that there are players with two or three times as many kills as you, I was wrong. It's far more than that. I said 40+, but that's actually far from exact number. As that's a estimated guess of how many i might have done. As for 40+ being little? If it is, then: i really don't have no comment on your way of "experienced". But to me though:that's quite good and decent number. I will stop now, this has turned into a flamming on my side. I feel like i have to defend what i say, instead of hear other peoples about it. So i guess it can be closed if a moderator or admin choose to do so. Seriously. All of your threads suck. Zilyana has no special attack that turns off prayer. You can get lost. That's all i have to say to you.
August 30, 200817 yr You can get lost. That's all i have to say to you. As soon as you stop clogging this forum with god-awful threads. :roll: There's cake through here, apparently.
August 30, 200817 yr Wait, wait, wait, wait... You don't want anyone to challenge your opinions? But you want discussion? You asked for a discussion, and you've gotten your answer. You're the only person to have this experience. You've had at least two experienced boss monster hunters reply to you, calling BS, and have yet to come up with a valid reply. Check. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off.
August 30, 200817 yr You can get lost. That's all i have to say to you. As soon as you stop clogging this forum with god-awful threads. :roll: That is a bit harsh, so what if he made a mistake? At least he was trying to help and see if others had experience anything like it as well. His only other thread in the last two pages is his Firemaking one, and that got 12 pages of decent discussion.
August 30, 200817 yr Author Wait, wait, wait, wait... You don't want anyone to challenge your opinions? But you want discussion? You asked for a discussion, and you've gotten your answer. You're the only person to have this experience. You've had at least two experienced boss monster hunters reply to you, calling BS, and have yet to come up with a valid reply. Check. How is saying: that Artemis or other Sara GWD experienced : not mentioning this a valid point? It only says: "He didn't mention it, so it does not exist"... As for your post: look at how you reply... I made a point about how you can't relay always on others>Bandos post> and you made a mock out of it. You sure aren't suited for discussion. Only for flamming. As for my "spams". I did make 1 or 2 spam threads, on General discussion forum. I realized that, i even apologized to some moderator. It was stupid. But, somehow in between all that, you people have made my suggestion threads:on suggestion forum: where i really put hard work to make game better...into spam threads. Firemaking thread: into spam... I got only 1 message to all you haters: people do mistakes, i did one. But you are doing a bigger one, cause you "flame" the threadand "keep it up". And if the topic dosn't interest u: don't post in it. I am 100% sure that the damage i do, is compareable to what you do: in a admins eye. Cause you flame the thread with dumb repsonse about "Hey your the one who spammed". But i got one thing to you: if you think im such a liar and bad topic poster: go ask admin to bann me. Cause i wouldn't give rats tail if i got banned. It's fun posting and discuessing, but the people who are so focused about how someone has "lame topic"...is not worth it. If a topic is lame, let it be lame it will in end fade away. That's all.
August 30, 200817 yr We're not meaning it flame or call you a liar. We are simply saying that it's highly unlikely, no, almost statistically impossible that you were the first to notice some ability that makes trips 3 time harder, and is seemingly unfair since both nerfs on her where announced and this was now added. It could be a glitch, but I would think that someone would have noticed and that branched to someone on TIF. Again, not impossible, and you're not a liar, it's not a probable happening.
August 31, 200817 yr Hmmm... Saradomin Strike: Can temporarily lower the target's Prayer level. Seems like a relatively sensible answer. 100th Post! : Achieved 99 Woodcutting on 12/06/08
August 31, 200817 yr Author Hmmm... Saradomin Strike: Can temporarily lower the target's Prayer level. Seems like a relatively sensible answer. 100th Post! : I agree
August 31, 200817 yr I've got 2-3k zil kills Don't lie to me Aneron, i know full well you've never been. :D I've not experienced this but i've not been recently, perhaps it's time for extensive testing :D Thanks to Jopie for this great signature.99 Slayer|Fishing|Summoning|Hitpoints|Attack|Strength|Defence|Fletching.Anyone at Manchester University PM me
August 31, 200817 yr You can get lost. That's all i have to say to you. As soon as you stop clogging this forum with god-awful threads. :roll: :thumbup: seriously...what are we discussing here?
August 31, 200817 yr It could be that you panicked when she attacked you, and in a rush to get away didn't realize your prayer running out. But I think its more likely a very rare glitch or you didn't realize your prayer getting low. I've never had this happen to me whenever I've been at Zil. But you shouldn't get hit by her melee attack anyway ;) When you lagg sometimes, she does get to you. Infact you click away, and the lagg somehow draws you a bit towards her. Anyhow if my prayer went out, then it would have been "0", and not in 30s. I think it can be possible that i somehow, mysteriously clicked a place that turned prayer off? But thing is: i doubt that. Cause it happend twice, and i had nowhere my "Prayer" spellbook up. As for panicking. I have been to boss alot, and find her the most fun boss of all. Infact 2 trip ago i died lol, team blessed: i got all stuff ready (from bank) and went to get stuff back+rejoin my team. That says how calm i can be at boss. But if i lagg, then i will be annoyed lol, but hey what can i do about that :wall: I will be going to Saradomin again, soon (have been getting 79 summ) and ill report back if this happens again. Just wondering: were you playing in HD?? Since I too experience sometimes strange "clicks": when I click in my inventory somewhere a prayer gets on! First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me.
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