Ironic

[SnWRifleman]

How ironic... They try to stop RWT by getting rid of the Wilderness and they set a limit on the trade limit. This has stopped the MAIN ways to do it. There are alternates though. BH isn't always popular, and people can transfer that way. Even so, there are many ways RWTers have found to get around the barrier. Now for the ironic part..

 

 

 

There are more complaints ever. The updates were supposed to stop it, yet it just stirs up the problem more. There is still RWT and now there are people complaining about the loss of in-game activities. Just debate on what you think about this topic, because it has been questioning me lately. I don't see why people are still complaining though. And I don't get why when they try to fix something, people are worried still. Why do you think this is?

 

 

 

NOTE: I'm not complaining about the BH and trade limit. I'm fine with my runescape life with it in place and I can enjoy the game as much as I did before. Plus I barely ever did any PKing.

[Zierro]

Do you honestly think RWT is as widespread as it was before the RWT updates? Many people have said this before: RWT was severely wounded - not completely destroyed.

[SnWRifleman]

It was, and I'm not disagreeing. But it's still happening and Jagex can never stop it. I don't see why they try as to ruin the gameplay and lifestyle in the game for many. If they even cared, they'd Google, Runescape Gold and see like 50 websites pop-up.

[Chained_life]

Got rid of the stupid\chinese sweat shop RWT's

 

 

 

 

 

Not as bad, but still, not worth what was sacrificed.

[Roseiah]

A wounded RWT trade is much better than a full blown problem that we used to have. RWTers now have a harder job that takes them longer, meaning they can't make as much money. I do feel bad that the effect of this is the removal of free trade and the wilderness, but at the end of the day, less RWT means less people can cheat and less cheaters equals a happy me.

[Alg]

It was, and I'm not disagreeing. But it's still happening and Jagex can never stop it. I don't see why they try as to ruin the gameplay and lifestyle in the game for many. If they even cared, they'd Google, Runescape Gold and see like 50 websites pop-up.

 

I'm pretty sure they knew that they couldn't fully remove it without pretty much removing every aspect of player contact. It's better to leave at least some bit of the multiplayer bit than to remove it all and be ensured of a full removal.

 

 

 

It really is nowhere near as much a problem as it was, as people said. Previously, I saw people line up on certain worlds to trade with the farmers they ordered from, just south, and within view of, a high traffic area. They'd even tell people where to go to buy if they asked. There were quite a few customers as well, ranging from lower levelled players to a relatively high level in Dharok's.

[mervinator_9]

There are more complaints ever. The updates were supposed to stop it, yet it just stirs up the problem more. There is still RWT and now there are people complaining about the loss of in-game activities.

 

 

 

The update wasnt to stop people complaining about Rwt, if i recall few people really did, well no where never the number that complain about the loss of the wildy now. The update did its job of damaging rwt and in the process protecting jagex and the game.

 

 

 

Rwt is nowhere near on the level it was and even though it still exists it effect the average player a helleva lot less that it used to,

 

 

 

I would much rather be playing a gaming with a number of userws who still complain about the loss of wildy than a game with rampant rwt so tbh i dont really see the irony,

[jimmyjames227]

Real world training via bounty hunter is very dangerous and is likly to make the person who bought the item lose money as if the person they are buying the gold off isnt thier target they will have to rogue fight them and if they do that they have an increased risk of dieing.

[Grogthurk]

As long as the demand is there, people will try to supply.

 

 

 

That being said, RWT will always be a problem.

[obfuscator]

See you are failing to realize the problem and the solution. The problem is not so much that Jagex actually cared people were buying gold, but that they could get in trouble for it(aka being sued by credit card companies). By removing the wilderness and making a major effort to remove RWT they have provided themselves with legal protection. Now they can claim, if sued, that they have done everything in their power in short of closing the game, to prevent RWT.

[snipe338]

I think RWT shud be allowed, if sum1 wants to spend real cash for fake cash, so be it. I laugh at the idiot who does. :lol:

 

 

 

Also i think jagex shudn't have got rid of the wild as it has pretty much distotred runescape. prices of things like bloods are down more than 50%! cooked lobs fell in price too.

 

 

 

Jagex say there going to "fix" the wild and "pk'ing" situation. Jagex's first answer to that solution was Bh and look how badly that went. Personally i think jagex are providing its players with false hope.

[Magnetto14]

In the defence of Jagex. Never in one point in time will everyone be happy with the way things are. In order to make the game "fair" things we once enjoyed have to be sacrificed to ensure that the game, and everyones chances to be succesful in game are even. I dont understand why people blame the orginization for things that players have ruined. Dont get me wrong, pker was my favorite thing to do in runescape, then staking. And with the removal or both of those very fun things I was extremly upset, but not at jagex, at the fact that Runescape players let the game get that serious. To spend money on runescape gold is the most ironic thing in the world to me.

 

 

 

Just one question....Why play the game if you dont want to really play it.

[obfuscator]

I think RWT shud be allowed, if sum1 wants to spend real cash for fake cash, so be it. I laugh at the idiot who does. :lol:

 

 

 

Also i think jagex shudn't have got rid of the wild as it has pretty much distotred runescape. prices of things like bloods are down more than 50%! cooked lobs fell in price too.

 

 

 

Jagex say there going to "fix" the wild and "pk'ing" situation. Jagex's first answer to that solution was Bh and look how badly that went. Personally i think jagex are providing its players with false hope.

 

 

 

read my post. they did what they had to do as a COMPANY to protect themselves legaly. I would have done exactly the same. these rwt/wildy rants are really starting to get to me :evil:

[snipe338]

There is plenty of other ways they cud protect themselves as a "COMPANY". If u dont beleive me have a look at other MMORPG's and what there doing about RWT.

 

 

 

U say the "rants" are getting to you? isn't that what this topics about? (ranting about rwt and how ironic it is) Maby u shud get off this topic if its "bugging" you so much.. :

[jsboutin2]

I think RWT shud be allowed, if sum1 wants to spend real cash for fake cash, so be it. I laugh at the idiot who does. :lol:

 

 

 

Also i think jagex shudn't have got rid of the wild as it has pretty much distotred runescape. prices of things like bloods are down more than 50%! cooked lobs fell in price too.

 

 

 

Jagex say there going to "fix" the wild and "pk'ing" situation. Jagex's first answer to that solution was Bh and look how badly that went. Personally i think jagex are providing its players with false hope.

 

 

 

It might be because they released the blood altar...

 

 

 

Prices don't have that much to do with rwt. I'ts just that there are faster are better ways to make these items. After all, I'm pretty sure that less then 5% of RS's population reall suffered from these.

[snipe338]

It might be because they released the blood altar...

 

 

 

Prices don't have that much to do with rwt. I'ts just that there are faster are better ways to make these items. After all, I'm pretty sure that less then 5% of RS's population reall suffered from these.

 

 

 

Not jst blood runes.. look at price of potions and armour commonly used for pk'ing. Its just blood runes are an obvious choice as they price change is clearly seen. They all dropped in price because pk'ers left due to the RWT "solution".

 

 

 

I think ur statistics are wrong. "only %5 have really sufferd". Every1 has suffered in some way because of the RWT.

[walka92]

It might be because they released the blood altar...

 

 

 

Prices don't have that much to do with rwt. I'ts just that there are faster are better ways to make these items. After all, I'm pretty sure that less then 5% of RS's population reall suffered from these.

 

 

 

Not jst blood runes.. look at price of potions and armour commonly used for pk'ing. Its just blood runes are an obvious choice as they price change is clearly seen. They all dropped in price because pk'ers left due to the RWT "solution".

 

 

 

I think ur statistics are wrong. "only %5 have really sufferd". Every1 has suffered in some way because of the RWT.

wrong.

 

 

 

i never suffered because of rwt, or the "solutions".

[obfuscator]

There is plenty of other ways they cud protect themselves as a "COMPANY". If u dont beleive me have a look at other MMORPG's and what there doing about RWT.

 

 

 

U say the "rants" are getting to you? isn't that what this topics about? (ranting about rwt and how ironic it is) Maby u shud get off this topic if its "bugging" you so much.. :

 

 

 

other mmorpgs? such as?

 

 

 

sure, jagex could go to court, spend a few million on a lawyer to get rid of one out of many court cases. or, they can make a few simple changes to their code and protect themselves forever. Why would you even consider the first option?

 

 

 

The rants forum isnt getting to me. Rants about rwt and wildy are, because it is NOT coming back. Some people just need to learn to move on with their life because "ranting" about it is a waste of time.

 

 

 

Also, my point in saying jagex has protected themselves as a company is to prove the thread wrong. They accomplished their goals in removing the wilderness and free trade, so the fact that rwt still exists to a small degree is irrelevant.

 

He says it is ironic that they wanted to stop rwt and it is still happening. When something is bad, just because you can never completely stop it should you not try?

[Bauke]

 

i never suffered because of rwt, or the "solutions".

 

I think "suffered" isn't the best way to put it. Fact is, everyone is affected by RWT'ers. Mostly through item prices.

 

 

 

To me, the effect of Jagex' anti-RWT updates is quite clear. Before, the yew trees were full of lvl 3 bots, and now they're empty. I think that demonstrates the effect of the updates quite clearly.

[Levon_]

Like it has been said before me, RWT isn't nearly as bad as it was before Decemder 10th. RWTing through bounty hunter is very dangerous. The other day i saw someone who pked a RWT in the med crater in f2p. They had full Saradomin, full D'hide G, full wizzy G, and a strength ammy (t).

[oegly41]

RWT was severely wounded - not completely destroyed.

 

What doesn't kill you...

 

 

 

In this case, RWT has not become any stronger, but it's still there. If someone really wants to RWT, they can do it. Overall, I think it damaged the game more than benefiting it, though.

 

 

 

Jagex can be sued by creditcard companies? I don't say that this is wrong, as I know very little about laws regarding this, but how can this happen? If anything, Jagex should be suing the creditcard companies for allowing people to buy Jagex's pixels.

 

 

 

And about irony in this topic, I have something more ironic:

 

 

 

RWT'ers that whined then the Duel Arena and the Wilderness were removed. Some friends of mine (not giving out any names) were great in the RWT business, and got upset when Jagex made their changes. :P

[Will H]

 

Jagex can be sued by creditcard companies? I don't say that this is wrong, as I know very little about laws regarding this, but how can this happen? If anything, Jagex should be suing the creditcard companies for allowing people to buy Jagex's pixels.

 

 

No, they can't be sued by the credit card companies, but they can be denied service. And they have every right to block a company through which criminal activities are taking place.

[sup3rpur]

One new main RWT thing that has been started up is powerleveling. I've heard you can "buy" 99 rc for around $3,000

[vivimancer]

One new main RWT thing that has been started up is powerleveling. I've heard you can "buy" 99 rc for around $3,000

 

 

 

Firstly thats insane and seems like a waste of £1000 (think of all coke/[bleep]/weed you could have instead.) And even if you did 'buy' your skill cape whats the point you'll never get the feeling that you earned it and you won't have built up any friends or contacts because your an "out of the box" character.

 

 

 

Secondly the tired argument that rwt'ers used to come out with was that "Ive got the money but not the time that these kids do, why shouldn't I be able to buy my way to the top?"

 

 

 

And as a resource gathering skiller I was massively effected by the bots, as it drove down the prices of the things I was trying to sell i.e. Yews, coal and air runes.

[obfuscator]

RWT was severely wounded - not completely destroyed.

 

What doesn't kill you...

 

 

 

In this case, RWT has not become any stronger, but it's still there. If someone really wants to RWT, they can do it. Overall, I think it damaged the game more than benefiting it, though.

 

 

 

Jagex can be sued by creditcard companies? I don't say that this is wrong, as I know very little about laws regarding this, but how can this happen? If anything, Jagex should be suing the creditcard companies for allowing people to buy Jagex's pixels.

 

 

 

And about irony in this topic, I have something more ironic:

 

 

 

RWT'ers that whined then the Duel Arena and the Wilderness were removed. Some friends of mine (not giving out any names) were great in the RWT business, and got upset when Jagex made their changes. :P

 

 

 

lets look at this from an irl standpoint. im going to give you an example.

 

 

 

lets say you have some nice cars. you allow your friend to drive on, becuase you're his friend. When hes out driving it, he decides to sell it and keep the money. How would you feel about that?

 

 

 

Because that is EXACTLY what rwters did. They bought and sold what wasn't theres to sell. When you make an account, you agree to terms of use, which clearly says that you CANNOT sell anything in game for irl profit. Your "friends" are lucky its only a game, otherwise they'd be in jail.

 

 

 

And you mentioned that JAgex could sue the credit card companies? wrong. Credit card companies have no responsibility over what their customers chose to purchase. They do, however, have every responsibility to deal with credit card theft, and if Stolen credit cards were being used to buy Runescape items, then they have every right to demand jagex make changes.