ghjkl Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The word is out, the new Corporal Beast is weak to stab. When people found this out, they bought out the entire zamorakian spear market, the best stab weapon in the game. What people overlooked, however, is the Leaf-Bladed sword, normally not used outside of slayer because of its low stats compared to whip. However, it has 67 stab attack, aswell as being 1 handed, which equates to 87 stab bonus (2 more than the zamorakian spear) with rune defender. It also has a decent 50 strength bonus, which is 55 with rune defender. All this at the speed as the whip, and being a mere 45k, about 1/20 of the cost of the zamorakian spear. Would people start using this weapon at the Corporal Beast, considering if you die with it you don't lose as much, and its much easier to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salim123 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 yes it could be a way if u dont have that much money, but if you dont then why be there in first place? But it would overall be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 I'm not saying its for poor people, just the fact that you can't buy zamorakian spears without junk now, and its less to lose if you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayr Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Hm not a bad idea. Not that my stats allow me to hurt this new beast in any way, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I do believe that this is the "best" way to kill the beast at this time. It as just as fast as a whip, and since it is only one-handed, it can have +2 slash attack more than the z-spear as well as having the ability to train any form of combat and not just controlled. Not to mention if this weapon is lost in the fight it isn't as big of a deal as losing a z-spear which is 900k current mid-price in the grand exchange. This will allow for people to risk the sword in favor of better bonuses to attack, and not fear losing much (sword is only 48k in GE). Just bought a few, and will test this out soon. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dragon Dagger P++: Hits extremely well damage with 4 Special Attacks: Where you hit twice (x2). So that's 4x2=8 Hits. + Poisons. Daggers=best stab. So no, i don't think leaf is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dragon Dagger P++: Hits extremely well damage with 4 Special Attacks: Where you hit twice (x2). So that's 4x2=8 Hits. + Poisons. Daggers=best stab. So no, i don't think leaf is better. Yeah that would work, but then after, why not go for a main weapon with better stab? a dagger is only as good as the specials, and then it isn't very useful as a main attack weapon. The leaf bladed has an overall higher stab bonus. So, in invent you should have a dds, along with your supplies, a leaf bladed sword along with a rune def to maximize you stab effectiveness. If a team of say 10 (this is the average amount of members I see per trip) all use this method, "specing" out the boss in the beginning, I can see the Corporal beast falling fairly quickly to their hands. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dagger is nice: but Halberd has more stab bonus and hits harder on a BIG OBJECT. So i think Halberd as SPECIAL WEAPON works nice. But Leaf blade sounds nice as Main Weapon. Didn't knew it had more STAB than Dagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le_Fay Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 What do you want? +2 Accuracy or +20 Strength? ^ Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom Smash40 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 hally is 2h, and super slow. and forget warriors ring ~ 3,072nd to 99 Mining on August 30th, 2009 ~~ 112,084th to 99 Magic on April 16th, 2011 ~~ 131,681st to 99 Crafting on March 29, 2019 ~~ 178,385th to 99 Prayer on April 2, 2019 ~~ 234,921st to 99 Defence on May 9, 2019 ~~ 173,480th to 99 Herblore on June 21, 2019 ~~ 155,160th to 99 Smithing on July 16, 2019 ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 hally is 2h, and super slow. and forget warriors ring Yes sir it is. But did you know, that it's one of accurate Weapons in whole Runescape? That against Big monster it hits 2 hits? So it has 3 special bars = 2 hitsx3=6 HITS Salve Amulet E (Boss is undead): Increases Attack level+Strength by 20%=See what this does? This will insure a Player will hit 50+ With halberd. So here's the calculation: 118 STR/ATT (My levels SUPER POTTED) x20% =2360=2360:100=23.6 Levels=23.6+118=141.6 ATT/STR Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichermit Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I went and bought two swords (theyre only like 50k anyway). Thanks for sharing with us! Do you hate Wyverns or Warped Terrorbirds? Think again! Misunderstood Monsters!Want to become a Champion of Champions like I once was? Champion Scroll Guide!Feeling Bored? List of Sidequests Rare Drops: Dragon Sq Half : 1, Dragon Med : 2, Dragon Claws : 2, Dragon Legs : 1, Dragon Boots : 60+, Granite Legs: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Well there is no way in Hell that I would risk losing a defender again, but I suppose that this could be good for all the lucky people that get 1 every thousand tokens or so. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 Well I suppose you can use another shield, like DFS or Obby instead of defender for defensive purposes, but I heard armour doesnt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArgon Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Well there is no way in Hell that I would risk losing a defender again, but I suppose that this could be good for all the lucky people that get 1 every thousand tokens or so. Is it really that big of a deal? I got like, 5 rune defenders stacked in the bank... Not that hard to get more, just dont take them all out. 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReapMe Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 rune def + leaf sword not as high strength bonus. i prefer zam spear What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Zam spear is easily better, the +20 str is huge. However I guess the question is what is better between a d hally/d spear, or the leaf bladed sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 True that the sword is inferior to the zamorakian spear, only reason I can see it better if you are super rich and have the new shields or something. The point is that its a cheap alternative. I believe there should be no doubt that it is better than the hally or dragon spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbeer0 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Zamorakian Spear is a great weapon all around because you can use it everywhere because of its versatility. Good overall investment. +2 attack and -20 str... sorry. Spear owns it. However this is a good idea for first timers not willing to risk a costly weapon. OH S***! He/she/it is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Leaf bladed sword is only good for slayer. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Leaf bladed sword is only good for slayer. True that. So I guess the inferiority of the Leaf sword is determined... [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 What about the d long? Doesn't that have better bonuses than the leaf sword? I mean sure it has like 9 less stab, but it also has an extra 21 strength bonus. I'm thinking z spear is prolly gonna be best anyway though. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Correct me if I am wrong, but I would think that the speed bonus of the leaf spear to the zammakorian should make up the strenth bonus. Everyone spends so much time trying to max there maximum damage they forget that being able to hit faster and on more hits is often better. In the SFCIII game, there are 2 versions af all primary and one secondary weapon. These are fast and slow versions. They have the same accuracy as their counterparts. The fast versions have 70% of the max damage as slow versions, but fire 50% faster. If you do 2 slow rounds and everything hits perfect, you get 200 dmg (using easy numbers, not game values for damage) with a slow and 210 with fast. If you average out the damage dealt vs time, you will find that consistant med-high hits will ultimatly be better that sporadic high hits. If you miss with a fast weapon it is not nearly as big a deal as getting a bad hit with a slow weapon because you recover faster. I recal 2 handed spears being resonably med speed so I figure the leaf is probably around 50% faster. It might be a little bit worse in the long run, but for that cost it really makes you wonder if the zam spear is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Correct me if I am wrong, but I would think that the speed bonus of the leaf spear to the zammakorian should make up the strenth bonus. Everyone spends so much time trying to max there maximum damage they forget that being able to hit faster and on more hits is often better. Yes, you are wrong. The weapon in question is the leaf-bladed sword, not to be confused with the leaf-bladed spear. And the zamorakian spear has the same speed as a whip. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Correct me if I am wrong, but I would think that the speed bonus of the leaf spear to the zammakorian should make up the strenth bonus. Everyone spends so much time trying to max there maximum damage they forget that being able to hit faster and on more hits is often better. Yes, you are wrong. The weapon in question is the leaf-bladed sword, not to be confused with the leaf-bladed spear. And the zamorakian spear has the same speed as a whip. Yeah, it's the same speed. all that explanation for nothing... I'm pretty sure everybody knows that D2H's and godswords aren't good for training, lol. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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