z0mg yes its liek another partyhat thread. :o

 

 

 

I was looking through the grand exchange more, and I noticed two main things with partyhats.

 

 

 

The first is that lately they're all down alot more than they were recently...

 

 

 

The second, is the more important one, They only have a 1% margin for high/low offers. The main point I decided to make the thread really, because I can't be the only one wondering this. Every other item has a 5% margin, but each partyhat, and christmas cracker, only have a mere 1% margin. Anyone else trying to figure out what Jagex is up to? 150+m or not, a 1% margin actually cuts the amount of difference down ALOT. (Blue partyhat can only go about 3.5m high/low, it used to be about 19.)

 

 

 

Anyone have anything they think?

the last time i checked a half wine had a 0% lol

The small gap is either what made the prices change now, or it's there to stop them being used as junk with 3rd age.

 

Or Jagex just loosened their prices a little so they change quicker, but put the 1% there anyway for the junk thing.

 

 

 

And half wine has a 5% gap.

I've noticed it too, and made a thread on it at offical forums. I think Jagex is making phats extra sensitive to sales, but in order to not make them go down too steep, they've lowered the trade marigins. So this way a phat can only go (and will go, cause they are more sensitive now) down 1.8M in stead of 9M. Pretty neat of them IMO.

I've noticed it too, and made a thread on it at offical forums. I think Jagex is making phats extra sensitive to sales, but in order to not make them go down too steep, they've lowered the trade marigins. So this way a phat can only go (and will go, cause they are more sensitive now) down 1.8M in stead of 9M. Pretty neat of them IMO.

 

The best option to. However, it can only be temporary. After they level out, they would move far to quickly. Unless Jagex likes and allows that, which is doubtable at this point.

I've noticed it too, and made a thread on it at offical forums. I think Jagex is making phats extra sensitive to sales, but in order to not make them go down too steep, they've lowered the trade marigins. So this way a phat can only go (and will go, cause they are more sensitive now) down 1.8M in stead of 9M. Pretty neat of them IMO.

 

The best option to. However, it can only be temporary. After they level out, they would move far to quickly. Unless Jagex likes and allows that, which is doubtable at this point.

 

 

 

It doesn't seem doubtable.

 

 

 

Think about it, if bedman is right, and they lowered the trade margins so they can't go down as fast, that must mean they don't want them to crash correct? If they WANTED partyhats low, they would keep the margins high and let it plummet 10 - 20m at a time. This must mean Jagex doesn't want them to crash, no?

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure once they level out they'll go up again, and be higher than they used to as well.

I've noticed it too, and made a thread on it at offical forums. I think Jagex is making phats extra sensitive to sales, but in order to not make them go down too steep, they've lowered the trade marigins. So this way a phat can only go (and will go, cause they are more sensitive now) down 1.8M in stead of 9M. Pretty neat of them IMO.

 

The best option to. However, it can only be temporary. After they level out, they would move far to quickly. Unless Jagex likes and allows that, which is doubtable at this point.

 

 

 

It doesn't seem doubtable.

 

 

 

Think about it, if bedman is right, and they lowered the trade margins so they can't go down as fast, that must mean they don't want them to crash correct? If they WANTED partyhats low, they would keep the margins high and let it plummet 10 - 20m at a time. This must mean Jagex doesn't want them to crash, no?

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure once they level out they'll go up again, and be higher than they used to as well.

 

There's a difference between crashing and lowering. They know that they're junk now, so this is just a fail safe to prevent crashing. Yes, they'll go back up, but I think Jagex will adjust the sensitivity once the price comes down.

I've noticed it too, and made a thread on it at offical forums. I think Jagex is making phats extra sensitive to sales, but in order to not make them go down too steep, they've lowered the trade marigins. So this way a phat can only go (and will go, cause they are more sensitive now) down 1.8M in stead of 9M. Pretty neat of them IMO.

 

The best option to. However, it can only be temporary. After they level out, they would move far to quickly. Unless Jagex likes and allows that, which is doubtable at this point.

 

 

 

It doesn't seem doubtable.

 

 

 

Think about it, if bedman is right, and they lowered the trade margins so they can't go down as fast, that must mean they don't want them to crash correct? If they WANTED partyhats low, they would keep the margins high and let it plummet 10 - 20m at a time. This must mean Jagex doesn't want them to crash, no?

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure once they level out they'll go up again, and be higher than they used to as well.

 

 

 

Looking at this situation from Jagex's perspective, they can't raise the sensitivity of partyhats as well as keep the margins the same. Why? They've learned from their mistakes. If partyhats started shooting down 10-20mil a day, ACIDY and all of the other elite merchanting groups would have a field day hording them and then releasing them-this would result in the same type of cycle that we've seen with the AGS, SGS, or any other item that was deemed "unsellable" for a prolonged period of time. By allowing the partyhats to drop more consistantly but at a lower amount per day, partyhats, once bought out (which will happen if they continue dropping at a consistent rate like they did today), will become comprable to 3rd age in both rarity and amount traded. If I'm correct in my thinking and Jagex sees this the same way I do, they will then raise back to their original price (more than likely a little lower tbh) and the cycle will start over. Just like every other item in the G.E., partyhats are in a everlasting "sin curve", it's just the slowest moving curve to date.

 

 

 

Hope that made some sense #-o

because now if someone buys a phat they wont lose 20mil on a random day, that is a pretty big hit in the back.

 

 

 

the prices are still off though.

Jagex announced on one of those "in other news" things that they reduced the 5% margin for party hats so it wasn't like it was not announced.

 

 

 

I think it's a bit weird to be honest. People don't really want partyhats anymore (atleast at that price now that you can lend them and all..) so it would stand to reason that they should keep dropping large amounts until they get bought frequently enough to become stable. I think this will only take partyhats longer to stablize #-o

I wanted to sell my Green Phat quick, but now I think I'll hold onto it after reading some of these posts.. Thanks! :thumbup:

actually quite the opposite, partyhats will drop everyday now or at least every week and by the time they stabilize and people start to buy them again, they will rise extremely high.

A few things I'd like to say really.

 

 

 

Triquos, Even if it was in an "In other news..." (I guess I missed this), it doesn't make this post worthless, as it still makes you wonder why they made this decision, no?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to the fact of trying to say that partyhats will crash because they are lendable, and people can just borrow one, it doesn't make them less rare. They're discontinued and maybe they don't leave daily, but over time the supply of them really does cut down bad. Theres also people who still do want them, being an achievement, or for their rarity, etc, so they aren't totally worthless really.

Partyhats as I see it are rare it's just that 3rd age is hard to get nowadays so it's the diserable thing no but that will change as Jagex adjust those prices. For partyhats they are just trying to make people clear up the GE of offers because some people have had them in there for over 4 months and the GE I would guess would be kind of clogged. I don't know but lessining the margin I would guess would be to keep them from dropping huge amounts at a time making masses of people willing to sell them for anything because people panic and the merchants will suceed from it. Partyhats will find their place in Runescape again after the pkers come back and merchanting becomes more established.

I never said the post should never have been made, I don't know where you got that from? I meant that it was in the news update, and as you say you probably missed it. Sorry for the misinterpretation ;)

The small gap is either what made the prices change now, or it's there to stop them being used as junk with 3rd age.

 

Or Jagex just loosened their prices a little so they change quicker, but put the 1% there anyway for the junk thing.

 

 

 

And half wine has a 5% gap.

 

 

 

At the moment everyone sells party hats at minimum price on GE, so reducing the trade margin from 5% - 1% will actually make them fall 5 times as slow due to the smaller margin of difference. However, it is possible that Jagex is going to change their prices based on less trades than it was before... :?

Well, maybe Jagex want it to be harder to earn money on merchanting them? I don't know too much about the rares market though.

Well, as you can see, Jagex have finally made the partyhat prices change. But since this is the first time in almost a year that the partyhat prices have changed, they changed it to a 1% fall/rise per day because when they turn to start rising, they will turn hard. So they made it 1% so that it won't do such a big turn and just blast up in price like a rocket, because if that happened, they'd take a very long time to even get close to balancing in price. That's my take on it, at least.

All I know is that when G.E. came to, it fixed and messed up trading.

People see partyhats are moving, people sell them, people actually buy them, too... I wonder if I should buy now, before it's turning.

 

Should I also sell my masks and santas, as people will start selling them and invest in party hats again...

I imagine that the margin has been changed to stop phats from crashing too low and then rocketing too high. It stabilizes the price. I was going to sell my phat, decided to keep it now, might buy another soon too (taking advantage of this abundance of phats before it drys up). People will always be buying, however people won't always selling. Once they get to the lowest price they are going to get to, merchants will buy and hoard them and refuse to sell until they have risen... a lot.

I imagine that the margin has been changed to stop phats from crashing too low and then rocketing too high. It stabilizes the price.

 

 

 

Like in the hot topic a while back something about Jagex trying to stop monopolies, this might be more proof?

I imagine that the margin has been changed to stop phats from crashing too low and then rocketing too high. It stabilizes the price. I was going to sell my phat, decided to keep it now, might buy another soon too (taking advantage of this abundance of phats before it drys up). People will always be buying, however people won't always selling. Once they get to the lowest price they are going to get to, merchants will buy and hoard them and refuse to sell until they have risen... a lot.

 

Yeah I'm doing the same with my yellow too :)

i'm buying one eventually. as they get more rare, it's something i can keep and show off no matter how long i play runescape.

well jagex does have a thing against haliday items being moneymakers