Another one bites the dust

[shivers21]

I was readign the newspaper, and there was an article about these turtles, it said there was only 4 of them left in the world. just FOUR, one of them is a female, she is 84 years old, and one of the males is 100, they laid eggs, but they were not good. it's not just the turtles, but how many more species like this are going to get extinct?

 

 

 

EDIT: is responce to the direction this topic is going, I want to let you know that it is not about the tuttles, but about species going extinct, and what twill happen / won't happen if we don't/do smething.

[venomai]

it's not just the turtles, but how many more species like this are going to get extinct?

 

About 99.9% of them.[1][2]

[Guest]

Its something like...50 (sub)species are extict a day. Still, only 4 left. Thats pretty terrible

[warren211]

Unfortunatly, species will always be going extinct. We can do things to slow it down and maybe save a few species, but with some of these animals where they're too old to breed, it's a hopeless cause. But I hope humans can help stop these extinctions.

 

 

 

Where's Torti when you need her? I bet she'd have something to say about this.

[Happysniff]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other turtle species out there

[zeekyhbomb]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other turtle species out there

 

 

 

Excellent way to view the world. Excellent.

[Lenticular_J]

Might as well have rare turtle soup.

[shivers21]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other turtle species out there

 

 

 

 

 

>< the turtles were an example, the thread is about species going extinct.

[Kriegsmier]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other turtle species out there

 

 

 

You missed the point.

 

 

 

I feel you on this topic. I am a very avid aquarium keeper and you would be amazed at the number of species of fish going extinct or being protected that we can no longer get for our tanks. Problems like non native species invasion, damming the rivers, etc all contribute. Its a tough fight and thats what makes captive breeding programs so valuable.

[silver_wits]

What about the number of species that are going extinct, but we don;t know about them? :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

what about the coelacanth which everyone thought was extinct... then they just jumped up somewhere.

[Maleficus1055]

From time to time I wonder if some species go undiscovered and become extinct. For example, the Frilled Shark. Maybe the one that died after it was captured was the last one and they are all gone now? Unless i'm mistaken and they have found more.

[Diesel]

Well, I guess you could still try to clone them.

 

 

 

If you agree with that kind of stuff...

[angryjoe]

Played happysniff, ever the optimist!

 

 

 

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Infi]

Really, it's something that can't be helped.

 

Remember, new species are being found also but the only thing that sickens me is the people who are aware they are endangered but relentlessly hunt them :roll:

[Range_This11]

We don't need to save every single animal on this planet. Let nature take its course. Leave nature alone.

[baron8000]

We don't need to save every single animal on this planet. Let nature take its course. Leave nature alone.

 

 

 

2nding this. If man fudged with it and killed it off directly or with a reasonable amount of undue interference then ok, theres a problem then, but some species are going to die out just because of natural selection, leave it alone.

[Ginger_Warrior]

As someone who has studied Biology at college, I will never understand this fixation about saving every species on the planet. If it's a result of human activity, fine, I accept we should intervene.

 

 

 

Otherwise, let evolution take its course.

[InkofDeath]

Survival of the fittest & technology.

 

 

 

Whats so important about a species anyways? As long as they aren't getting murdered and for the most part it's a natural thing, like them unable or not reproducing quick enough, then whats so wrong about it? It's just a species disappearing. Sure species contribute greatly to the ecosystem and other systems, but if the species is already at 100 left or so, they aren't doing much for the 4 billion humans?

[megakiller32]

I always thought Turtles and Tortoises were going to be the first major species to get extinct, by Survival of the Fittest, because they're just too slow, while other animals can adapt to crush them/dig thier heads out of the shells and other gory means of killing turtles.

[Flodder450]

I always thought Turtles and Tortoises were going to be the first major species to get extinct, by Survival of the Fittest, because they're just too slow, while other animals can adapt to crush them/dig thier heads out of the shells and other gory means of killing turtles.

Siggied! \

[silver_wits]

I always thought Turtles and Tortoises were going to be the first major species to get extinct, by Survival of the Fittest, because they're just too slow, while other animals can adapt to crush them/dig thier heads out of the shells and other gory means of killing turtles.

 

 

 

 

 

never heard of snapping turtles have you?

 

Also.. turtles are pretty good swimmers...just like penguins.

[llcoolguy972]

Survival of the fittest & technology.

 

 

 

Whats so important about a species anyways? As long as they aren't getting murdered and for the most part it's a natural thing, like them unable or not reproducing quick enough, then whats so wrong about it? It's just a species disappearing. Sure species contribute greatly to the ecosystem and other systems, but if the species is already at 100 left or so, they aren't doing much for the 4 billion humans?

 

 

 

So if a species doesn't contribute to human existence, it's deemed unworthy of existing? -.-

[Will H]

As someone who has studied Biology at college, I will never understand this fixation about saving every species on the planet. If it's a result of human activity, fine, I accept we should intervene.

 

 

 

Otherwise, let evolution take its course.

 

I agree completely, we should only intervene with problems that we caused.

[Freakyhair]

We don't need to save every single animal on this planet. Let nature take its course. Leave nature alone.

 

 

 

2nding this. If man fudged with it and killed it off directly or with a reasonable amount of undue interference then ok, theres a problem then, but some species are going to die out just because of natural selection, leave it alone.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but I could happily say with no proof that a DAMN lot of species are dying out becaause of us; deforestation, increasing temperature further than a lot can adapt(not too bad yet) and simply urbanising and farming a large percentage of land is going to kill off species, and is! obviously species die out naturally but humans are contributing to it SO much. its really sad.. and the worst bit is that we still don't do anthing (really) we don't adress the fundamental issues that are causing this. extinction is only going to get A LOT worse.

 

 

 

What we can do? make our governments go green, protests etc. it HAS to be done. cut down on using cars, i mean how many people drive to work with 1 person in the car EVERYDAY its caining off the atmosphere. stop furthering our medical capabilities, its kinda hard to say but when are we going to stop growing? far too many people and we still all want to live longer, tbh quite a lot of illnesses are blatently caused by our unhealthy and un nutritional lifestyles and diets. i have heard that in america many people dont even walk to the shops, i mean.. that aying something isn't it. we have to stop buying and consuming so much POINTLESS crap, its caining of the rainforests without us even realising. did you know that nutella used to support one of the largest agricultural deforestation for palm oil? many companies such as McDonalds, Cadburies, Nestle etc are all contributing to MAJOR deforestation. Stop complaining about food prices and gas prices, they can't be low because supply at the moment CAN'T meet demand, we all need to eat but we'll have to cut back on things to do so. in a capitalist world to have the super rich you have the super poor, to have the rich you need the poor, get what im saying? if you want the world to carry on like it is we can't all be well off and doing well for ourselves. continuous economic growth is not possible in a finite world. All in all we need a complete social reformation, which i think isn't going to happen, the way we all live is destructive, we all want more, we all want a "better" life, a new car, a new tv, to live longer. think about this, we all think on an individual level, and how much do YOU help screw over nature, now think about how many people are doing the same thing possibly on an even bigger scale. think about the "urbanisation"(americanisation) of india and china and think about how many people live there(billions). something has to happen but it won't.. even with these feelings im still on my compurter in my heated house, i try not to buy food that encourages deforestation and to bank in ethical banks but its not enough.

 

 

 

People look at the way you live, do you NEED that new computer or that new Xbox or that new DS. do you NEED those more fasionable clothes because the others are out of season, do you NEED that tacky key ring you got in Paris that you'll probally throw away after a few yers. Do you NEED a bigger car, better shoes etc.. the answer is NO but we all seem to THINK we do. life is 100% not about possetions and to be fair thats inarguable. now i know a lot of people are going to say that a lot fo stuff we need, but if you think about it we don't.

 

 

 

if you care about the enviroment and animals then why not do something, speak up to the governments that really can make a HUGE impact. we cant go on this way.. i know that im doing my bit, i WILL NOT let anymore coal stations be built in the uk, im willing to go to prison if i have to for this cause because it NOT ON!

 

 

 

peace out and think about what i said please

 

 

 

before i posted this i saw this

 

 

 

Survival of the fittest & technology.

 

 

 

Whats so important about a species anyways? As long as they aren't getting murdered and for the most part it's a natural thing, like them unable or not reproducing quick enough, then whats so wrong about it? It's just a species disappearing. Sure species contribute greatly to the ecosystem and other systems, but if the species is already at 100 left or so, they aren't doing much for the 4 billion humans?

 

 

 

an example of why we're dooming other animals and eventually ourselves. you litterally make me SICK skatedog..

 

 

 

they aren't reproducing quick enough or whatever because of us destroying their enviroment. ARGH you sick sick man.

[Ginger_Warrior]

Survival of the fittest & technology.

 

 

 

Whats so important about a species anyways? As long as they aren't getting murdered and for the most part it's a natural thing, like them unable or not reproducing quick enough, then whats so wrong about it? It's just a species disappearing. Sure species contribute greatly to the ecosystem and other systems, but if the species is already at 100 left or so, they aren't doing much for the 4 billion humans?

 

 

 

So if a species doesn't contribute to human existence, it's deemed unworthy of existing? -.-

 

That's not what he's saying at all.

 

 

 

It's basic Darwinism. The species slowest to respond to changes in its environment (changes in geography, climate, conditions, predation, vegetation etc.) will die out. Those who live will do so because the change in conditions has no effect, or else a mutation has occurred in the species which allows that particular organism to adapt to said change. This organism is thus capable of growing to adulthood, breeding and passing its alleles (the mutation included) to the next generation, and the frequency of that allele increases in the population. Those who do not adapt will die as a result and therefore will not reproduce, therefore the species dies.

 

 

 

If these turtles have been so far unable to adapt to their environment (probable due to the huge time gap between generations), they die. It's as simple as. If it's because of something we have done, then that's another matter.

 

 

 

You can't leap to the protection of every species on the planet. Dozens die out each and every day, thousands haven't even been discovered let alone classified, but you don't seem to complain about that when we're chopping down the rainforests to grow food so prices remain low at the supermarkets.