Lenticular_J Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 We do that here, too, True. In Texas. What the hell. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Harry Potter? Man, those people have to get a life. I wonder what would happen if they walked into Canadian Tire one day seeing all of the "dirty" names such as Mono (a type of caulking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestig0 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Reading The Adventures of Huck Finn should be classed as learning history sort of book, and banning Harry Potter... It sickens me to the bone... :evil: I don't think any books should be banned personally, if they make kids read books with not so pwerful imagery they aren't going to do very well in english ;) My legions of fans: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenga Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 This seems dumb, I mean I don't like harry potter just because it didn't appeal to me, I don't think it should be banned though. Parents just want to control what their child reads/learns. I never really enjoyed animal farm, but meh. I think the reason harry potter was such a problem is because they actually referred to the female sorcerers as "witches", also because it is set in the real world (kind of), while lord of the rings and the inheritance cycle are set off in their own land. So they will ban animal farm which was a good example of ww2 leadership ideals, yet they won't ban books like "night" by Elie Wiesel because it's anti Nazi, yet it has some powerful scenes in it that are just as bad. I'm not saying night should be banned by the way, I personally thought it was a good book, I'm just using it as a reference if they ban animal farm they might as well ban all books having to do with those ideals. Ponies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfreind Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Fahrenheit 451 is a book commonly banned because it is ironically about the act of burning books. No, that book should be banned. I hated reading it. And to show my hate, after reading it, I got a few copies, and burned them with an Axe can flamethrower. I still don't see why Huckleberry Finn is banned. It's a historical book really. Then again, so is To Kill A Mockingbird, which is also banned in some places. I wonder how many sales of these books this topic has caused so far... [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren211 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 It seems we all have different definitions of the word "ban" here. :-k From what I see, books can be banned in a few ways: 1) Public libraries 2) schools 3) Overly protective and/or conservative parents who are afraid a book written by an author with non-mainstream ideals will ruin their child's stance on politics early on and destroy their lives. And as someone else said, all the bannings will do is encourage interested readers and self-proclaimed rebels to read these books because there's something about the books that makes politicians (and soccer moms) nervous. Books like these are MEANT to give us an inside look on the ideals that were the norm back then but are now highly controversial. This thread is making me anxious to read Orwell because I've never heard of him. GF book ban. [hide=]tip it would pay me $500.00 to keep my clothes ON :( :lol:But then again, you fail to realize that 101% of the people in this universe hate you. Yes, humankind's hatred against you goes beyond mathematical possibilities.That tears it. I'm starting an animal rebellion using my mind powers. Those PETA bastards will never see it coming until the porcupines are half way up their asses.[/hide]Apparently a lot of people say it. I own. http://linkagg.com/ Not my site, but a simple, budding site that links often unheard-of websites that are amazing for usefulness and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I loved Fahrenheit 451. We read it last year. Then again, my English teacher that year was so cool. Wonder how he is... catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbfgraphx14 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Getting permission from parents would probably work for getting around the ban. If the parent disagreed to their child reading the book, then they would choose another book. Tbfgraphx14Happy to find I'm not the only one who eats glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 It seems we all have different definitions of the word "ban" here. :-k From what I see, books can be banned in a few ways: 1) Public libraries 2) schools 3) Overly protective and/or conservative parents who are afraid a book written by an author with non-mainstream ideals will ruin their child's stance on politics early on and destroy their lives. In a lot of industrial countries these days, highly racist or hate-mongering books can be entirely banned from sale, library lease, import or school curriculums. So it is completely possible to "ban" books from being read, most of the time the target of the ban in Europe is a neo-nazi, anti-semitic, ultra-nationalistic book. It's actually possible to get a copy of Mein Kampf in some European libraries, but not the original version. The one available for the public in most countries is heavily commented in a critical light via footnotes, or blatantly edited. Can't say that's disappointing though, there are some things best left unread especially if the reader is young and prone to new influences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockopener Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 the anarchists cookbook william powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 the anarchists cookbook william powell :shock: Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieeMania12 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 to answer each book: 1. Huckleberry Finn does have several uses of the N word. However, it also shows how life was before the Civil War. The reason why Huck uses the word repeatedly (i cant use it because it gets censored by tip.it) is because he is an ignorant person who doesn't really understand much about racism. He befriends Jim, clearing off any "racism" charges. 2. Its true: Animal Farm is against Communism. Wonder why that was banned. 3. I can't explain much that has already been said about Harry Potter except for the fact that its pretty much Harry Potter. We should euthanize anyone who lacks the capability to contribute to society in any way.Please don't elect this man for president in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 to answer each book: 1. Huckleberry Finn does have several uses of the N word. However, it also shows how life was before the Civil War. The reason why Huck uses the word repeatedly (i cant use it because it gets censored by tip.it) is because he is an ignorant person who doesn't really understand much about racism. He befriends Jim, clearing off any "racism" charges. 2. Its true: Animal Farm is against Communism. Wonder why that was banned. 3. I can't explain much that has already been said about Harry Potter except for the fact that its pretty much Harry Potter. To defend Huck, He wasn't ignorant, he was just borned into that society, not knowning right from wrong. Jim was a father figure to Huck too, the River was like, their own place, to set aside their racists society and to be free from any type of hate. The HP thing, thats just another stupid thing that parents just though of. Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 to answer each book: 1. Huckleberry Finn does have several uses of the N word. However, it also shows how life was before the Civil War. The reason why Huck uses the word repeatedly (i cant use it because it gets censored by tip.it) is because he is an ignorant person who doesn't really understand much about racism. He befriends Jim, clearing off any "racism" charges. The reason Twain uses the "N" word so often in the book was to show how ignorant racism was. Twain was absolutely against racism and oppression and felt that this was a way of poking fun at it. A lot of uneducated people nowadays think that Twain was being racist and that all of Huck Finn was about promoting racism. They're dead wrong and need to do some research. I read this book my junior year of high school and every time we came upon the "N" word, we just replaced it with "slave", which is was the applicable term in the time period the book takes place. "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizz Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The "Communist Manifesto" is Banned from my school, that's one of the books my librarian told me is Banned. Wongton is better than me in anyway~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsavi Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The next time you have a book report, try to do the communist manifesto (To OP, Author: Karl Marx) and when they say that you can't, challenge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaerehw14 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I can't believe anyone would ban 1984 or Animal Farm; Animal Farm especially. Animal Farm is more of a satire if anything. It is meant to be a history piece, in an easy to read form. You can't actually believe that this book is to promote communism when it shows the obvious flaws and downfalls of the belief. Fahrenheit 451? Kind of ironic that it would be banned. "Let's ban a book that shows the stupidity and collapse of society if we were to ban books." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megakiller32 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 the anarchists cookbook william powell :shock: I have that! At first before I bought it I thought it was light-hearted, and not entirely as a joke, But after I read it, it was really hardcore written by a harcore 60's Yippee :| Also, in America, isn't it against a constitution or amendment to ban books under freedom of speech? (I think it's the first amendment, but that beyond my knowledge of law, cause i'm not American...) Quit Runescape 30th May 2006.Thanks to Hawkxs for my signature :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The reason Twain uses the "N" word so often in the book was to show how ignorant racism was. Twain was absolutely against racism and oppression and felt that this was a way of poking fun at it. A lot of uneducated people nowadays think that Twain was being racist and that all of Huck Finn was about promoting racism. They're dead wrong and need to do some research. I read this book my junior year of high school and every time we came upon the "N" word, we just replaced it with "slave", which is was the applicable term in the time period the book takes place. Mark Twain would be my several generations-great-uncle. Think he was my great-grandmother's mother's father's father or something like that. I love doing these kinds of books for book reports. Too bad this year they're are biographies. At least I can do Che and whatnot. I'd do Mein Kampfe, but it'd be hard to find. Plus, that'd be hard. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baalboy5 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Just got done 1984, so sad how Smith acts in the end :cry: I hate to see our society end up like that. Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob. People in OT eat glass when they are bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 [ Also, in America, isn't it against a constitution or amendment to ban books under freedom of speech? (I think it's the first amendment, but that beyond my knowledge of law, cause i'm not American...) It is. When a book is referred to as "banned" they really mean that the school library just does not keep a copy of it. Actually banning it (as in preventing its publishing or dissemination) would be highly illegal. In other countries however (Australia and Germany come to mind) freedom of the press is not protected, so some books are banned. IE I have a copy of Mein Komph, (Hitler's autobiography) which is banned in Germany and I have heard that several books related to making weapons are banned in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 If I remember correctly, Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye" has been banned in places simply because of the language. (Few uses of [bleep], few uses of bastard aswell, and alot of goddams, then theres some sexual references) Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolguy972 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 to answer each book: 1. Huckleberry Finn does have several uses of the N word. However, it also shows how life was before the Civil War. The reason why Huck uses the word repeatedly (i cant use it because it gets censored by tip.it) is because he is an ignorant person who doesn't really understand much about racism. He befriends Jim, clearing off any "racism" charges. 2. Its true: Animal Farm is against Communism. Wonder why that was banned. 3. I can't explain much that has already been said about Harry Potter except for the fact that its pretty much Harry Potter. To defend Huck, He wasn't ignorant, he was just borned into that society, not knowning right from wrong. Jim was a father figure to Huck too, the River was like, their own place, to set aside their racists society and to be free from any type of hate. The HP thing, thats just another stupid thing that parents just though of. The Harry Potter banning actually has religious roots. When it first came out, many Catholics/Christians wanted it banned because they thought it would create an army of devil worshipers or something. They didn't like that it glorified witchcraft and how Harry could speak to snakes. I think there were other reasons, too, but they escape me atm. They actually ending up creating a lot of publicity for it, though, and I think they played a role in its success. Irony at its finest. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickeley102 Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The "Communist Manifesto" is Banned from my school, that's one of the books my librarian told me is Banned. it seems a bit silly when the fascist manifesto would potentially be more dangerous i did an assignment in year 11 english after we read 'the crucible' (not banned i think) where we compared the salem witch trials in colonial US to McCarthyism in Cold War US. since then (i was 15) i have had a distaste for the repression of political ideology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Are you sure these books are banned across the States? I have a copy of all of those. Bought at Barnes & Nobles. Fahrenheit 451 is a book commonly banned because it is ironically about the act of burning books. If it was banned, it would be because of the 1984-ish government views. I seriously don't think that any of these books are banned. Anywhere. The only place I've heard of a book being "banned" is at a library, particularly school libraries. But that isn't banned, as said. I think he meant that those books are banned in at least one place in the states (which may be as minimal/trivial as one school library in one state). The only form of book banning that I might be okay with is libraries refusing to stock a book since that's there decision. I still think it's stupid, but I wouldn't kick up too much of a fuss over it. But there should be no problem with a person bringing their own book into a library to read (even if it happens to be the book that the library refuses to stock), as one example. - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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