Does "Skiller" really mean no combat?

[Zierro]

We all know of the phenomenon of the "skillers". According to popular belief, a skiller is a level 3 who trains his or her skills as high as they can without gaining any combat levels. Well, since when is combat not a skill? Attack, Strength, Defence, Hitpoints, Ranged, Magic, Prayer, and Summoning all go under the category of skills, yet if you train them, some say you lose your title of being a skiller.

 

 

 

I don't agree with that at all. Some may see it as a handicap to stay level 3. That might be true in some cases like Thieving, but when it comes down to it, all those maxed out players spent tons and tons of hours getting their combat up.

 

 

 

Why isn't combat a "skill"?

[tintin113]

All skills in RS are, obviously, skills.

 

 

 

To be a skiller implies not that you have no combat levels - that's a pure skiller - but that your non-combat skills are generally higher than your combat skills.

 

 

 

Combat skills involve being able to kill things better, and being a "skiller", like many terms used in RS, doesn't actually mean that you train skills because everyone does that, but that you train predominantly non-agressive skills.

[Bouwzie]

Well worded tintin, I agree with you. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

I see myself as a skiller, as I like doing non-combat skills more :

[Jaggerum]

Skiller arent always non-combat, you meet loadsa lvl 70's with skillcapes (how a hate them :lol: ). Generally your a skiller if your total lvl is more than it should be for your level. Don't ask me for a guide on cb lvls/total lvls :wall:

[magician_xy]

I'd say that a skiller is anybody who enjoys training non-combat skills than fighting monsters. By that definition, I'd be a skiller, since I love fishing and cooking a lot better than fighting monsters or (heaven forbid) pking.

[Siobhana]

I consider myself a skiller, even though I have all melees 99, but only one non-fighter 99. My melee stats have grown mainly from training other skills. I got a lot of xp from RSC thieving, I have no idea how many thousand chaos druids and chaos druid warriors I killed for herbs before Miscellania and farming, and slayer was the skill that pushed them to 99. So IMHO, yes, you can absolutely be a skiller even if you have high combat stats. :)

[doomy]

I consider myself a skiller at 113 combat and 1924 total level, I enjoy non-combat skills and have got 4 of them at 99, albeit cook fletch and firemaking :P

[Hajutze]

24 skills , max 2376 total lvl max 138 cb lvl. In other words in the max 136 cb you will have 17.2~ lvls per cb lvl.

 

In my definition a skiller is a person with more then those 17.5 total lvls per cb, or more then 1720 total at 100 cb and etc.

 

 

 

sr for the mistake ...

[D Jay99]

I just train them both quite equally. Even so, I think most people would consider me a skiller, as they do mostly combat themselves.

 

 

 

I just don't want to limit myself to one part of the game :D

 

 

 

24 skills , max 2376 total lvl max 136 cb lvl. In other words in the max 136 cb you will have 17.5~ lvls per cb lvl.

 

In my definition a skiller is a person with more then those 17.5 total lvls per cb, or more then 1750 total at 100 cb and etc.

 

17.5/combat is a bit too much if you ask me, once you get above 120 combat it gets really hard to keep that up. I personally think everyone with over 2.1k total or over 17/combat is a skiller.

[XxTearGodxX]

My definition of "skiller" is someone who enjoys spending their time on non combat skills. Instead of doing pvp and monster bashing a lot of the time when they play. In my opinion you don't have to be a lvl 3 character to be a skiller, lvl 3 skillers are nothing more than people begging for attention plain and simple.

[Imamonkey]

In my opinion, a true skiller works on all skills, not just certain skills.

 

 

 

I have nothing against level threes that train certain skills to high levels without gainaing any combat experience. I have an account like that. I don't consider it a skiller account though. My skiller account is the one where I train all my skills.

 

 

 

I don't go out of my way to help a level three because they find themselves in a tight spot either. I don't ask for help in a tight spot when I am on my level three account either. That is the point of being level three. To accomplish certain goals with no combat. The pride put into the hard work. So don't expect me to help you make things easier when you purposely choose to play that way. Takes away from why I am playing. I don't mind helping people out. But when you purposely handicap yourself I will not help you out. I am sure to some this makes sense? To the dense it won't.

 

 

 

Just my opinion on the matter.

[Bouwzie]

24 skills , max 2376 total lvl max 136 cb lvl. In other words in the max 136 cb you will have 17.5~ lvls per cb lvl.

 

In my definition a skiller is a person with more then those 17.5 total lvls per cb, or more then 1750 total at 100 cb and etc.

 

 

 

Max is 138 combat.

[Seraphyna]

Pure skiller implies no combat. Skiller in general means someone with a high total level...someone who trains all skills (combat included). That's how it works in my book anyhow.

[tintin113]

In my opinion, a true skiller works on all skills, not just certain skills.

 

 

 

I have nothing against level threes that train certain skills to high levels without gainaing any combat experience. I have an account like that. I don't consider it a skiller account though. My skiller account is the one where I train all my skills.

 

 

 

I don't go out of my way to help a level three because they find themselves in a tight spot either. I don't ask for help in a tight spot when I am on my level three account either. That is the point of being level three. To accomplish certain goals with no combat. The pride put into the hard work. So don't expect me to help you make things easier when you purposely choose to play that way. Takes away from why I am playing. I don't mind helping people out. But when you purposely handicap yourself I will not help you out. I am sure to some this makes sense? To the dense it won't.

 

 

 

Just my opinion on the matter.

 

 

 

I have to agree with you on that matter. However, the way you worded it is as if you were making a pre-emptive strike on anyone who was going to criticise you for your opinion.

 

 

 

On the other side of that arguement however, is that if you have friends willing to help you, RS is a community game and doesn't necessarily have to be just one person helping an account grow. (I'm not talking about account sharing but about other players helping you through.) If you can get friends who are willing to help you overcome your dodgy combat obstacle then well done for managing too. However, if someone asked me to help and I wasn't really good friends with them I honestly wouldn't put myself out to such an extent.

[Imamonkey]

I would help out someone I didn't know if they were in a tough combat situation and they had combat skills. That is my point. I don't mind helping out, but I do if you purposely handicap yourself by purposely not training combat.

 

 

 

I know some will disagree. I guess I should say that if you feel different that is fine. At the same time I think the way I feel about it is perfectly valid. And if you don't mind helping out a level three that gets attacked by a monster then that is perfectly valid.

 

 

 

As I stated, it is my opinion on the matter.

[DreamReaper]

Well, combat skills are just what they are called; skills. I don't see why people would try to create a ratio to determine how high you train your skills in accordance with your combat level and then have the audacity to say or imply that someone is inferior to them because they decide to train different skills. There is no such thing as being a "skiller". There are just those who prefer to do different things.

 

 

 

 

 

lvl 3 skillers are nothing more than people begging for attention plain and simple.

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly.

[Will H]

Think about it this way:

 

 

 

A 'Pure' is an account which has been purposely trained to that it has some skills raised to a desired level and others purposely not raised.

 

 

 

A 'Skiller' is an account which has raised non-combat skills, but may or may not have raised combat skills.

 

 

 

A 'Pure Skiller' combines the two definitions, and means an account that has been purposely trained so that it has only non-combat skills.

[Zaaps1]

Answering your title directly, I think a skiller is someone who trains skills, be it a level 3, main, or a pure (for whatever reason).

 

 

 

The level 3 you refer to is what I consider a Skill pure. In other words, someone who ONLY trains skills, similar to how combat pures keep their defense low.

 

 

 

As to why combat isn't a "skill", it technically IS, but since so much first-impression prestige is based off the clearly visible combat level, how impressive is it to see a level 3 with a trimmed Smithing cape? So it IS a skill, but there is a clear distinction between the roles of combat and non-combat skills.

[psvstef]

a skiller is someone who likes non cb skills more then cb ones Imo ;)

 

 

 

i can't be considered a skiller :lol:

[highlanders]

Semantics

[tintin113]

Semantics

 

 

 

Yes? And? Are we not allowed to examine the meaning of a word, or did you just feel like posting the first word that came to your head in an attempt to be trolly?

[Wrench_150]

A skiller doesn't have to be lvl 3 cb. A skiller is someone who trains skills more than combat. A pure skiller would be a level 3 since they purely are skillers.

[ladycai]

I love skills and hate combat, but ironically my combat levels are mostly higher than my skills, even xp wise. Skiller just means someone who enjoys it.

[The_Maddest]

In my opinion players are divided, by the majority of the RS community, into two categories: skillers and PKers. You either skill or you PK. End of story, apparantly.

[Our_Moon]

No (to your title.)

 

 

 

I've got all my Combat Stats at Level 92, with a Total Level or ~2106. I consider myself a "skiller," for i train skills... The word "skiller" refers to a player who trains skills. We're all skillers, but we all skill differently. Many of us are Combat-focused, whereas some of us are Non-Combat-focused. And, well, some of us just aren't focused at all!