Rune pure versus 'Barrow' pure

[Derbo]

In my runescape career of being a pure, I started as a lvl 1 def pure.

 

I stayed 1 def up to 75 attack and 85 strength. At a point, my cb lvl was I think 70, and I could get 4 speced at any time, just standing in wildy.

 

I decided to get 20 def.

 

 

 

At 20 def, being an initiate pure, I got some advantages. I got a prayer bonus and some defence against high blows. Also mith gloves were nice. But I grew some cb lvls and I found out the 4 spec ko wasn't gone. (now, instead of the 1 def pures spec'ing me to death, it were the rune pures.)

 

 

 

After a while, I decided to get 45 defence and become a rune pure.

 

Here I am, with 45 defence, 85 attack and 89 strength. I've got the barrow gloves and such, only need 94 mage for vengeance (yeah right, I'll rather have 5m cash) and firecape (perhaps at 80 ranged.)

 

Wildy is gone, but we've got BH and PVP.

 

 

 

I'm rune pure for a few years now (just re-entered the rs community, finding out about godswords and summoning and stuff like that) and I am seriously doubting about getting 70 def or not.

 

 

 

I want to ask rune pures and ex-rune pures who've gotten 70 defence, what the disadvantages and advantages are.

 

With 70 defence, I am also going to get 70 prayer for piety. The piety and barrow armour will help me alot at training, because I use up alot more food now.

 

 

 

Is it worth getting 70 defence?

 

 

 

I really want to know your opinions. But I am affraid there are people going to tell me I shouldn't be a bleep [kitty] and make my own decisions. I will make my own decision. I just want to hear about some experienced players who were in the same situation, weither they are happy about their 70 def, or weither they have remourse and want to go back to 45 def.

 

 

 

Thanks for reading.

[RayOxide]

No not really.

 

 

 

If you're pking you're going to die now and then so just go with some cheap armour, not 200k+armour.

 

 

 

Although a barrows pure would be pretty cool

 

Especially with the guthans ;)

[Derbo]

No not really.

 

 

 

If you're pking you're going to die now and then so just go with some cheap armour, not 200k+armour.

 

 

 

Although a barrows pure would be pretty cool

 

Especially with the guthans ;)

 

 

 

Well, if I go pk'ing now, I also risk about 250k :)

 

can't loose torso => rune plate. plus zerker, rune legs, and sometimes rune kite (if I'm out of defenders)

 

 

 

I want to go dharok pk'ing, I've always adored that, but the extra cb lvls.. aarch :D what to do..

[RayOxide]

I'm sure guthan pking would be great.

 

 

 

But if you're gonna complain about the combat levels, gtho its defence. =s

[91soldin91]

Im not a pure, and never have been but I do some pking. Here is what I know.

 

 

 

If you pk with dh and don't skull (like most people), you actually risk less than a rune pure even if you wear rune boots, glory, and a weapon to special with. Also, you can hit really high which goes well with vengeance. The only problem is that you mostly have to fight people at, or above your combat lvl if you aren't going to skull because no one below your combat level will fight you. Also, the defense levels from 45-70 don't just get you defense, but add to your max hit and KO power a lot more than 1-45 does.

 

 

 

Im don't know much about rune pures so Im not going to comment on them.

 

 

 

I hope that helped.

[The_Maddest]

I'm sure guthan pking would be great.

No, just no.

[RayOxide]

Explain^?

 

 

 

Most pkers these days are such sooks they'd run away from someone whose constantly healing

 

Especially with pray.

[The_Maddest]

Explain^?

 

 

 

Most pkers these days are such sooks they'd run away from someone whose constantly healing

 

Especially with pray.

 

First and formost, the healing effect in guthans is anything but 'constant'. On the contrary, many complain it's too random. If it's too random to be used in safe PvM situations, it sure isn't reliable enough to be used in dangerous PvP situations.

 

 

 

Even if the healing special works often, the complete abysmal stats of the guthans spear would stop you getting kills anyway. It also has a low strength bonus and no special attacks, resulting in low hits. These don't win fights and don't get kills.

 

 

 

Remember, the objective in PvP is not so much to stay alive as to kill your opponent. This may sound a little silly but if everyone protect prayed all through the fight to 'stay alive', then no one would get kills and we'd all lose money.

[Owned_Nex]

Explain^?

 

 

 

Most pkers these days are such sooks they'd run away from someone whose constantly healing

 

Especially with pray.

 

 

 

You don't do good damage with guthans.

 

 

 

You arn't going to do enough damage to make the opponant eat. The heal special is rare, and you die fast.

 

 

 

Compare it to PKing with a D Spear.

 

 

 

BTW, how do you heal with prayer?

[RayOxide]

Someone needs to think more.

 

USING pray

 

 

 

Nvm then, i havent had guthans before. Anything beats dharoking though

 

<_<

[00hydro]

One way you could look at the costs is you could still pk in rune armor, but piety and 70 defense would be a shock to them. Despite what people say, I still see defense's effects in the midst of battle, no matter the armor.

[Owned_Nex]

Someone needs to think more.

 

USING pray

 

 

 

Nvm then, i havent had guthans before. Anything beats dharoking though

 

<_<

 

 

 

Ofc!

 

 

 

Super Sets, prayer...all factored in.

 

 

 

DH is much mroe effective at PKing then Guthans.

 

 

 

You should get your facts straight before making [cabbage] remarks which demonstrate you have never PKed before , and know little about it.

[Derbo]

One way you could look at the costs is you could still pk in rune armor, but piety and 70 defense would be a shock to them. Despite what people say, I still see defense's effects in the midst of battle, no matter the armor.

 

 

 

Didn't really think about it that way, thanks :)

 

 

 

I'm currently slaying my way to 70 def, as I am sure I will enjoy the game even more with the 70 def benefits

[konkar]

RSC = 40>70

 

RSNOW = 70>40

 

 

 

 

 

:thumbsup:

[Owned_Nex]

Anyways, Barrows pures are better, but they are higher leveled. If they fought, then Barrows pure would win easily. But Rune pures have a easier life owning noobs at lower level'd wildy. That is why you don't see rune pures at mage arena. Barrows pures work in higher level'd wildy, and own everything.

[Yomyth105]

i am not a member and never was, but isnt barrow pure higher leveled than a run pure? wouldnt that be comparing apples to oranges? everyone must always remember what the wise old man once said:

 

 

 

The best pure is a main. lol that was irrelevant...

 

 

 

but seriously i think its the preference. i would pick barrow pure from what i heard from members.

[Inuashakent]

i am not a member and never was, but isnt barrow pure higher leveled than a run pure? wouldnt that be comparing apples to oranges? everyone must always remember what the wise old man once said:

 

 

 

The best pure is a main. lol that was irrelevant...

 

 

 

but seriously i think its the preference. i would pick barrow pure from what i heard from members.

 

Preference is definitely a factor, but which would win consistently in an actual PK zone? It's not really comparing apples to oranges, as they are both pures in the same situation.

[ultimatballr]

I am still a firm believer that maxed players make the best pkers (for obvious reasons)

 

 

 

But out of the 2, I believe Barrow pures have a higher consistency of "whoopin butt" (not a fan of swearing =P)

 

 

 

Personally, I am more partial to Barrow pures since a barrow pure is more like a main with 70 defence for the rest of its "career". Since there are so many more opportunities opened up when you don't necessarily restrict yourself as much as you would with a rune pure.

 

 

 

I say get the defence levels, enjoy the new armor and possibilities, and NEVER look back.

[Owned_Nex]

Pures, are made to have extremely good offensive abilites at a lower level. That allows them to easily eat up "balance" players.

 

 

 

If it is a rune pure vs barrows pure, the Barrows pure would win. But keep in mind, the barrows pure is 10-20 levels HIGHER.

[killerbeer0]

Well, Barrows of course.

 

 

 

Avoid the helm and losses will never be too bad.

[The_dmt1234]

well level 100 20 def pures i can 4 spec them and amke them run, ones with 99 99 20

 

rune pures my level give or take i can easily hurt them

 

 

 

your average 80 80 80, i have trouble with and normally when they see me hit 33 26 with dds they prot pray or run or tele

 

 

 

me personally would pick barrow pure... i wonder why :lol:

[asianboy7o7]

Explain^?

 

 

 

Most pkers these days are such sooks they'd run away from someone whose constantly healing

 

Especially with pray.

 

 

 

if you dont pvp you dont have any idea

 

 

 

dh's can veng 30 bam then hit you with a 50 to k0 you simply

[PereGrin]

I can understand how you can have initiate pure and rune pure, but once you get to 70 def, are you really "pure" anymore/ I mean the only thing in the game you cant equip is the DFS, and thats stupid to take pking anyway. I wouldn't consider someone with 70 def a pure anymore. But yes it will stop you from getting owned by specs. Except maybe Blitz followed by an Arma spec, but thats basically unstoppable without the elysian or divine spirit shield.

[3hitm4g3u]

Stay 45 defence.

 

 

 

Rune pker beats barrows pker.

 

 

 

I have 1,20 and 45 defence accounts. The way I see it 1 beats 20 beats 45 beats 70.

 

 

 

Downing barrows whilst wearing robes is too much fun to pass up tbh.

 

 

 

Ironically I tend to spec most people out contrary to the popular belief of how pures get specced out

 

 

 

i'd go on about the benefits of 1 defence but on topic stick with being a rune pker, especially since you have barrows gloves.

[The_dmt1234]

well from my experience

 

70 def 99 str beats 45,20,1 def and everything inbetween, i can spec out 1 def pures 20 defences pures and since i havent fought to many rune i cant say always but i can kill them pretty easy