3rd age too rare for money?

[Everyonedies]

i think Jagex turns a blind eye or doesnt realize that junk trading it going on. I think its more of the blind eye as in if the players want to sell tons of junk and a player is going to buy that said junk then whatever will be will be.

[BBC3]

3rd Age: 1/10000 Chance, level 3 clues being completed all the time (1 every few seconds?)

 

 

 

Sigils: 1/250-500? Chance, at most 2 Corp events happening at any given time, Corp takes probably 7 minutes a kill.

 

 

 

That aside, I've been wondering why players consider it useful to be traded 3a for a high value item. The ultimate objective is pure cash, right? How are you going to sell the 3rd age for cash? Get 200m+ junk? In that time you could make 500m cash. I don't see the use in 3a trading, except for getting rid of it by buying another high value item. But what If I wanted to sell my Elysian Sigil so I could buy runes for 99 magic and a Godsword? Too bad, I have this 3rd age stuff that won't do any good.

 

 

 

Forgive me if I sound ignorant, I'm a little new to the concept of 3a trading.

 

 

 

1 every 5 mins for clues more accurate and if you got a 3rd age item you would keep it for looks/price raise/to make junk.

[Chained_life]

Free trade was taken away. Before this was taken away you could easily buy 3rd age for cheaper than the current prices now. The "street" price is not the real price, Jagex are just taking WAY TOO long to raise them. Remember masks being 20mil-40mil "street" price, then once they hit 15mil or so (because jagex decided to finally raise the price) they crashed.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with junk traders, if jagex didn't control everything we wouldn't have junk traders, it's simple. You could use the same line "WELL RWT NOT JAGEX FAULT" Some how a lot of other games are able to survive without destroying things people like in the game.

[slay_revenge]

People with money will do what they want with it, and to a large group, buying 3rd age is it. its so pricey because its hard to get, looks nice, and is a symbol of how rich you are. you have to be really lucky or really rich to get it. and the junk aspect of it is stupid imo but to the majority it works, and that will keep fueling what 3rd age trades go on( unless its 3a for 3a or new items)

 

 

 

and to Warriormonkx , too lazy to quote but that isn't true, a person can smith to 99 using mith and use that as junk, not just a waste of time or money since you get levels out of it, what he said is true to a degree but not entirely.

 

 

 

:P

[Golvellius]

3rd age is the gear of RWTer.

 

Want it? Plop down real money at one of their RS gp sites and then go pickit up in BH.

[Carl]

3rd age is the gear of RWTer.

 

Want it? Plop down real money at one of their RS gp sites and then go pickit up in BH.

 

 

 

That's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard, seriously.

 

 

 

 

 

Having hold of a 3a Helm I hear so many people saying "Why would you pay that much for junk?" It's not junk. I bought it because I could, and because I can never really lose money by owning it.

 

 

 

My idea, on how they've gotten so expensive is because, of course, GWD was released. This gave players that weren't merchants a new found source of riches, which many many people did to make billions. Party hats crashing were just not a good item, and there was no other armour that could show wealth other than Third Age. It's rare to find, and it's very appealing. All the sets really stand out, players chose to buy into this armour because of what it was.

 

 

 

A symbol of wealth, combined with that of a Blue Partyhat or equal, clearly showed anyone that you weren't messing about and that you had money to spend.

 

 

 

More and more people came across the GWD and did it for epic amounts of money, soon flooding the market of what most people would have thought was amazing (Godswords and that).

 

 

 

Leaving us where we are today, the rarest armours in the game are where they should be, very expensive and highlighy sought after items.

[bronzewarrior]

3rd age is the gear of RWTer.

 

Want it? Plop down real money at one of their RS gp sites and then go pickit up in BH.

 

 

 

That's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard, seriously.

 

 

 

 

 

Having hold of a 3a Helm I hear so many people saying "Why would you pay that much for junk?" It's not junk. I bought it because I could, and because I can never really lose money by owning it.

 

 

 

My idea, on how they've gotten so expensive is because, of course, GWD was released. This gave players that weren't merchants a new found source of riches, which many many people did to make billions. Party hats crashing were just not a good item, and there was no other armour that could show wealth other than Third Age. It's rare to find, and it's very appealing. All the sets really stand out, players chose to buy into this armour because of what it was.

 

 

 

A symbol of wealth, combined with that of a Blue Partyhat or equal, clearly showed anyone that you weren't messing about and that you had money to spend.

 

 

 

More and more people came across the GWD and did it for epic amounts of money, soon flooding the market of what most people would have thought was amazing (Godswords and that).

 

 

 

Leaving us where we are today, the rarest armours in the game are where they should be, very expensive and highlighy sought after items.

 

 

 

it's still the gear of a rwter... all the rwters i know have full 3a mage/range/melee and i think one of them has an elysian shield...

[Great_one]

okay here is what jagex should do. they should manualy go in and lower the price of one 3rd age item by 5%. in no time people will be using the 3rd age as the junk!...

 

 

 

adn yes i am staring at you animal masks/ dagon'hi/elite

[Carl]

okay here is what jagex should do. they should manualy go in and lower the price of one 3rd age item by 5%. in no time people will be using the 3rd age as the junk!...

 

 

 

adn yes i am staring at you animal masks/ dagon'hi/elite

 

 

 

Erm, Wat? :?

[magmaguard3]

I think that the 3rd age armor is just an item to some people. It will never be of any true worth and it will stay in banks till the end of time. (Not really)

[mmmcannibalism]

actually if you want 3rd age to stop being traded with junk you should want jagex to raise the price on it so people would rather have that price in cash then selling junk for more.

 

 

 

The price in junk people want isnt what they would want as the stree price if their was free trade

 

 

 

for instance lets just say some piece of 3rd age costs 20mil in exchange 100mil street price(this may resemble something but i just made up numbers). If a player trying to sell that piece could demand a pure gp cost it would be somewhere between the two prices because 100mil in junk is not worth as much as a 100mil in gp since it cant be used except for other junk trades

[Vincent]

elysian shields are only 120M to correct a previous poster.

 

 

 

about 3rd age, it's one of those if you have the money put the offer on and get lucky if you get it. then you can barter with it. people of course use it to sell their phats or buy dclaws or sell junk by making the person buy the phat with the 3rd age. but really i dont care what the 3rd age prices are, they're just new toys for merchants to play with.

 

 

 

and i really dont see their value outside being able to barter for other items. some have decent bonuses but it just amounts to fluff. it was the same scenario with animal masks but those prices eventually deflated. godswords same thing. merchants are filth really. their whole idea of playing the game is NOT to make a lot of money; that would be boring. their idea of playing the game IS to rip people off and manipulate, get around trade barriers etc. that's fun to them. same concept with a level 90 telling a lvl 20 in full bronze he can trim his armour. not for profit but sadistic pleasure.

[chc05dude]

3a was a mistake by Jagex.

 

 

 

With the volume requirements for updates on the GE, combined with an ultra-rare item by design, equals a locked price and insane shortage.

[What980]

It should be noted an item that's say 40m in ge and 100m on street is not really worth 100m. It's real price, if one could be made, lies between the ge and street price as junk is not completely invaluable. Having junk is better than not having it. It can be merched into cash on world 2, or it can be liquidated through lending. It still has a value, just less than a gp.

 

 

 

How do you merch it into cash? :? :?:

[mmmcannibalism]

It should be noted an item that's say 40m in ge and 100m on street is not really worth 100m. It's real price, if one could be made, lies between the ge and street price as junk is not completely invaluable. Having junk is better than not having it. It can be merched into cash on world 2, or it can be liquidated through lending. It still has a value, just less than a gp.

 

 

 

How do you merch it into cash? :? :?:

 

 

 

Once again, no personal experience but I imagine it works like this.

 

 

 

selling 100k in junk for 70k cash

 

 

 

also if you own a god sword or other desired lending item you can lend for long periods of time and money using junk to get around trade barrier, ex lending bgs 24 hours 1mil, turns 1mil junk into 1mil cash

[What980]

It should be noted an item that's say 40m in ge and 100m on street is not really worth 100m. It's real price, if one could be made, lies between the ge and street price as junk is not completely invaluable. Having junk is better than not having it. It can be merched into cash on world 2, or it can be liquidated through lending. It still has a value, just less than a gp.

 

 

 

How do you merch it into cash? :? :?:

 

 

 

Once again, no personal experience but I imagine it works like this.

 

 

 

selling 100k in junk for 70k cash

 

 

 

also if you own a god sword or other desired lending item you can lend for long periods of time and money using junk to get around trade barrier, ex lending bgs 24 hours 1mil, turns 1mil junk into 1mil cash

 

 

 

I understood the liquefy via lending. Your way makes since to "Sell" the junk but it can only be done in small amounts. I was wondering if there is any way to do it in large amounts.

[Bombing_7000]

Um... I heard no one buy em on the Grand Exchange so they're consider a junk to trade with.

 

 

 

~Bomb~

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

@acenator: I stand by my statement of lowering the prices -- simply to make them tradable on the GE again. Consider that if the price is too high or too low, it won't be traded on the GE (will be used for junk). Find the equilibrium instead of raising it to a level of absolute insanity.

 

 

 

I don't care if it's the best armor in the game - I'm not paying 150M for a set to chance it. Full Dragon comes in at less than a third of that.

[acenator]

@acenator: I stand by my statement of lowering the prices -- simply to make them tradable on the GE again. Consider that if the price is too high or too low, it won't be traded on the GE (will be used for junk). Find the equilibrium instead of raising it to a level of absolute insanity.

 

 

 

I don't care if it's the best armor in the game - I'm not paying 150M for a set to chance it. Full Dragon comes in at less than a third of that.

 

The problem with lowering prices is that people sincerely believe that it is worth more (whether or not it is actually worth more/less can only be found out once the price does find equilibrium AND people start trading them via the GE again) and are, obviously, willing to pay more. You can't just go in, lower prices, and say "this is the true equilibrium." It doesn't work that way.

 

 

 

If you want people to start trading 3rd age via the GE, you have to incrememtally raise its price until people start selling it on the GE. This will, inevtably, cause a price crash that may or may not require Jagex to come in again and incrementally lower prices to where people start buying again. This process must then be repeated until the price levels out and 3rd age starts trading easily on the GE again.

 

 

 

All lowering the price would do is make it take longer to find equilibrium.

[bedman]

Third age kite has fallen like 2M or so somehwere in april/may and it didnt crash...

[i_D_r]

It should be noted an item that's say 40m in ge and 100m on street is not really worth 100m. It's real price, if one could be made, lies between the ge and street price as junk is not completely invaluable. Having junk is better than not having it. It can be merched into cash on world 2, or it can be liquidated through lending. It still has a value, just less than a gp.

 

 

 

How do you merch it into cash? :? :?:

 

 

 

Once again, no personal experience but I imagine it works like this.

 

 

 

selling 100k in junk for 70k cash

 

 

 

also if you own a god sword or other desired lending item you can lend for long periods of time and money using junk to get around trade barrier, ex lending bgs 24 hours 1mil, turns 1mil junk into 1mil cash

 

 

 

I understood the liquefy via lending. Your way makes since to "Sell" the junk but it can only be done in small amounts. I was wondering if there is any way to do it in large amounts.

 

 

 

You don't want to sell 100k junk for 70k cash- it isn't worth it. Instead. Use junk 2 ways with merching:

 

 

 

1. You can liquidate some junk by buying rising items on the street and reselling them on the street within the same update.

 

 

 

IE. Let's say Dragonfire shield is bought out. Max ge price is 17.5. You watch the street and you see it selling for 18.5-22 with junk or whatever. You buy one with junk for 19m. You resell for 20m, or whatever. Just make sure you resell it for more than you paid. There is always some sucker. Just be patient. Whatever the difference is, is liquidation of junk. Of course, if you play less or the junk is stable (ie bottomed out), the better option is to wait for ge to update as many times as you feel is right to sell the item for a greater net of gp and THEN dispose of the junk through lending. It's really preference and instinctful insight of the item and junk being used.

 

 

 

2. This really isnt a way to get rid of junk, but rather to use junk as a leverage of profited items. There are always MAJORLY bought out items that may have accepted 'junk values'. If you buy these items and resell for more, you end up with the items themselves after you cycle through enough times. Here's a current example of this.

 

 

 

Opulent tables for 2m, resell for 3m. Do this a few times, and you earned yourself a free very much rising item basically.

[Master_Smither]

3rd age like junk is a currency because it's always being bought out by various people.

 

 

 

Don't think it's unbuyable though I've gotten a piece in the GE but thats with always updating the offer when it rises and such.

 

 

 

It's rare, looks good, and is always being bought out so when someone does sell it on the GE it more than likely goes to a merchant who just puts it with his other sets. This prevents it from entering the open market making it like it never was entered into the game.

 

 

 

Also the GE has a limit of the number of pieces sold before it can update so with 1/10000 clues being a third age peice not many get introduced into the game making it hard for the GE to update the prices without Jagex actually doing it.

 

 

 

With the trade limits you can't actually get it to it's street value making so noone sells it for direct cash so yes it's too rare for the market price.