Is the time getting void range worth it?

[Abe]

I am going for 99 range by chinning at ape atoll.

 

 

 

I recently calced out that i need 710 pc point for full void range

 

 

 

It would take me about 5-6 hours getting the full void range, in that time i could have gotten 1m-1.2m range xp

 

 

 

Would it be worth it?

 

 

 

I dont think so atm...

 

 

 

thanks :?

[sadukar123]

It's worth it in the long run.

[iskateandpk4]

it is totaly worth it, you make around 200k or 300k depending upon your level which is nice and void makes training so much easier. I hit alot more with void then i do with dragon hide, alot more consistent.

[Sinkhan]

It's also not like you won't be getting any ranged xp at all during PC. While the wait times and higher defence monsters as well as the halved xp will cut your xp in-game to probably about 2/5s, you're still getting a sum of cash as well as those valuable PC points.

[stonewall337]

It will take about 15 hours though, yet it is worth it.

[Tesset]

In short, no.

 

 

 

[hide=Here's why.]It shouldn't take you 15 hours. Around 10 would be a better estimate. It takes about 2 minutes a game, and half a minute of waiting time. Starting from nothing, you need 212.5 games to get full void, or 213 games in actuality. That calcs out to 532.5 minutes, or 8.875 hours. Giving a little to that for longer games/waiting times, and you get 9 hours. Another hour or so for lost games would be appropriate.

 

All on world 144, instead of a clan, on veteran boat. A clan would boost this quite a bit.

 

 

 

Now, let's say you get 150 damage a game (Which is what I normally get) That's 300 ranged experience per game. Times 213, that's 63,900 ranged xp from the game. Adding in the hour's worth of lost games gets you 71,100 xp earned during the obtaining of the set.

 

 

 

To get 99, you need 6,586,298 xp from your current level. Subtract the 71,100 xp you got from the pc games, and you get 6,515,198 xp to go.

 

Using information from here, you get about 205 xp per chin with void, which will give you about 10% more xp per chin, so 184.5 or 185 xp per chin without.

 

 

 

That means you have to throw 35,602 chins to 99 range without void.

 

With void, you have to throw 31,781 chins to 99 range.

 

 

 

You can throw 1,268 chins an hour with the xp rates from the afore-mentioned guide.

 

 

 

That means spend 28 hours of training without void.

 

And with void, you spend 25 hours training.

 

So, you save 3 hours of actual training with void. Spending 10 hours to get it. So, timewise, no, it's not worth it.

 

 

 

Let's look at cost. Getting void nets you your combat level(127)*10*213(number of won games for void). That means you get 270,510 gp getting void.

 

 

 

Based on current market price of 410 gp per chin:

 

You will need 14,596,820 gp to get 99 range without void.

 

With void, you need 13,030,210 gp to get 99, minus the 270,510 gp you got getting void, so 12,759,700 gp.

 

 

 

Void saves you approximately 1,837,120 gp. That means if you can make more than 612,373 gp per hour (1.8m savings/(10 hours getting-3 hours saved)) you should not get void. Or if you absolutely do not care at all about money getting to 99.

 

 

 

Several things would affect this, like you using the less cost-efficient red chins or having a clan to get void on(which you probably would be able to get easily), but those probably won't change the results here and make getting void at this point more efficient.[/hide]

 

 

 

In case you are wondering, I did this math to figure out if it was worth getting void for myself as much as for you. Though I'm not chinning, I was questioning it's worth. And I'm only one level behind you, so I won't have much difference.

[pureprayer]

In short, no.

 

 

 

[hide=Here's why.]It shouldn't take you 15 hours. Around 10 would be a better estimate. It takes about 2 minutes a game, and half a minute of waiting time. Starting from nothing, you need 212.5 games to get full void, or 213 games in actuality. That calcs out to 532.5 minutes, or 8.875 hours. Giving a little to that for longer games/waiting times, and you get 9 hours. Another hour or so for lost games would be appropriate.

 

All on world 144, instead of a clan, on veteran boat. A clan would boost this quite a bit.

 

 

 

Now, let's say you get 150 damage a game (Which is what I normally get) That's 300 ranged experience per game. Times 213, that's 63,900 ranged xp from the game. Adding in the hour's worth of lost games gets you 71,100 xp earned during the obtaining of the set.

 

 

 

To get 99, you need 6,586,298 xp from your current level. Subtract the 71,100 xp you got from the pc games, and you get 6,515,198 xp to go.

 

Using information from here, you get about 205 xp per chin with void, which will give you about 10% more xp per chin, so 184.5 or 185 xp per chin without.

 

 

 

That means you have to throw 35,602 chins to 99 range without void.

 

With void, you have to throw 31,781 chins to 99 range.

 

 

 

You can throw 1,268 chins an hour with the xp rates from the afore-mentioned guide.

 

 

 

That means spend 28 hours of training without void.

 

And with void, you spend 25 hours training.

 

So, you save 3 hours of actual training with void. Spending 10 hours to get it. So, timewise, no, it's not worth it.

 

 

 

Let's look at cost. Getting void nets you your combat level(127)*10*213(number of won games for void). That means you get 270,510 gp getting void.

 

 

 

Based on current market price of 410 gp per chin:

 

You will need 14,596,820 gp to get 99 range without void.

 

With void, you need 13,030,210 gp to get 99, minus the 270,510 gp you got getting void, so 12,759,700 gp.

 

 

 

Void saves you approximately 1,837,120 gp. That means if you can make more than 612,373 gp per hour (1.8m savings/(10 hours getting-3 hours saved)) you should not get void. Or if you absolutely do not care at all about money getting to 99.

 

 

 

Several things would affect this, like you using the less cost-efficient red chins or having a clan to get void on(which you probably would be able to get easily), but those probably won't change the results here and make getting void at this point more efficient.[/hide]

 

 

 

In case you are wondering, I did this math to figure out if it was worth getting void for myself as much as for you. Though I'm not chinning, I was questioning it's worth. And I'm only one level behind you, so I won't have much difference.

 

He only needs 710 points so it would be worth it.

[Sir_Kurity]

Assuming you get 10 mill range xp, the void will net you an extra 1 mill xp. So if you get 1.2 mill xp in that time, you need to get 12 mill xp to make up for lost time.

 

 

 

Also, you can get ranged xp from pest control as well.

[Italian5kamikaze]

Get it. Only takes like a day to get.

[Sir_Kurity]

Get it. Only takes like a day to get.

 

 

 

How long is your "day"

[Sinkhan]

Very interesting analysis who_am_i. However, I typically net around 200-300 zeal per game (With just a bone cbow) simply because people don't kill freaking spinners.

 

 

 

But yes, overall void isn't worth it for only ranged. However, if you're going to raise any melee stat with it, then it becomes more and more worthwhile.

 

 

 

Also like you mentioned, a good strong clan will reduce the number of games by a ridiculous amount. It will more than halve the number of games you play if you're going from novice to veteran (Because you'll lose a lot less)

[D Jay99]

It probably wont get you enough faster xp to make up for the 5-6 hours spent getting it. So, it wouldn't be efficient. But, if you ever plan on ranging stuff after 99, it wouldn't hurt to have void. It's one of those things that are just nice to have, you should decide for yourself if you want to spend 5-6 hours on that.

[JoeDaStudd]

In short, no.

 

 

 

[hide=Here's why.]It shouldn't take you 15 hours. Around 10 would be a better estimate. It takes about 2 minutes a game, and half a minute of waiting time. Starting from nothing, you need 212.5 games to get full void, or 213 games in actuality. That calcs out to 532.5 minutes, or 8.875 hours. Giving a little to that for longer games/waiting times, and you get 9 hours. Another hour or so for lost games would be appropriate.

 

All on world 144, instead of a clan, on veteran boat. A clan would boost this quite a bit.

 

 

 

Now, let's say you get 150 damage a game (Which is what I normally get) That's 300 ranged experience per game. Times 213, that's 63,900 ranged xp from the game. Adding in the hour's worth of lost games gets you 71,100 xp earned during the obtaining of the set.

 

 

 

To get 99, you need 6,586,298 xp from your current level. Subtract the 71,100 xp you got from the pc games, and you get 6,515,198 xp to go.

 

Using information from here, you get about 205 xp per chin with void, which will give you about 10% more xp per chin, so 184.5 or 185 xp per chin without.

 

 

 

That means you have to throw 35,602 chins to 99 range without void.

 

With void, you have to throw 31,781 chins to 99 range.

 

 

 

You can throw 1,268 chins an hour with the xp rates from the afore-mentioned guide.

 

 

 

That means spend 28 hours of training without void.

 

And with void, you spend 25 hours training.

 

So, you save 3 hours of actual training with void. Spending 10 hours to get it. So, timewise, no, it's not worth it.

 

 

 

Let's look at cost. Getting void nets you your combat level(127)*10*213(number of won games for void). That means you get 270,510 gp getting void.

 

 

 

Based on current market price of 410 gp per chin:

 

You will need 14,596,820 gp to get 99 range without void.

 

With void, you need 13,030,210 gp to get 99, minus the 270,510 gp you got getting void, so 12,759,700 gp.

 

 

 

Void saves you approximately 1,837,120 gp. That means if you can make more than 612,373 gp per hour (1.8m savings/(10 hours getting-3 hours saved)) you should not get void. Or if you absolutely do not care at all about money getting to 99.

 

 

 

Several things would affect this, like you using the less cost-efficient red chins or having a clan to get void on(which you probably would be able to get easily), but those probably won't change the results here and make getting void at this point more efficient.[/hide]

 

 

 

In case you are wondering, I did this math to figure out if it was worth getting void for myself as much as for you. Though I'm not chinning, I was questioning it's worth. And I'm only one level behind you, so I won't have much difference.

 

But if hes using range to gain the money in the first place (aviansies) then void would speed that step up, reducing the time.

[Italian5kamikaze]

Get it. Only takes like a day to get.

 

 

 

How long is your "day"

 

Was home sick, took me about 9 hours to get.

[epicnuts]

Get it. Only takes like a day to get.

 

 

 

How long is your "day"

[zotto]

how much faster is void compared to armadyl?

[Abe]

look at all the posts... =P~

 

 

 

and I decided to get it, i think it'll be worth it in the long run : (I hope :P )

[Sportz]

It will be, once you get 99 range, you probably won't just want to let it sit there forever, and with 99 you won't miss too much with void at irons or steels, even black drags.

[999134]

yes. If you were just getting cape to look pretty among your other 99's I would say no but void greatly increases ranges max hits (allows you to go for insane 49-49 and 60+ hits) I got my set and never regretted it.

[llamster]

Don't ignore cost! Void will save you a fortune if you're chinning, since you're getting more xp/chin.

[50Athlete50Lazy]

Really up to you, void is fun to use and will probably save you some cash when chinning to 99, you might also want to use it later , in my opinion: get it.