Homosexuality in RuneScape

[Myweponsg00d]

Stance: No, this is ridiculous. There are a lot of choices that your character makes for you in game...there is no reason to add this just because it is a hot topic IRL.

 

Religion: Catholic

 

Orientation: Hetero

 

 

 

edit: Wow, so many God-less atheists in this thread.

[Albel]

My opinion is weird on this matter. I have many friends that are homosexual. So I don't look at this as a good idead or a bad idea. However with that said, I don't think something like this needs to be put in the game. I just don't see the need for it.

 

Stance: Not needed, but I would not care if it was added.

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Heterosexual (straight)

[EU Slayer]

Stance: No, Keep it the way it is now.

 

Religion: Christian

 

Straight

 

 

 

I'm not to going to debate my opinion on this, I feel its better to leave it the way it is..

[Vann]

Stance: Not right for the game, but personally in real life I have no care either way. No one has the right to judge another person

 

Religion: Non-Denominational Christian (Raised Methodist)

 

Orientation: Heterosexual (Straight)

 

 

 

Personally I think this topic has no point. Yes, there is discussion value here, but it is all about political correctness and moral standpoints. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks on this topic.

 

 

 

Off topic: I LOL at all the people saying they are Atheist. If I could guess I would say that 80-90% of the people saying they are Atheist are Agnostic or are not sure, but that's just me.

 

 

 

Aheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

 

Agnostic: a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

 

 

 

peace,

 

Vann

[Racheya]

Stance: Not right for the game, but personally in real life I have no care either way. No one has the right to judge another person

 

Religion: Non-Denominational Christian (Raised Methodist)

 

Orientation: Heterosexual (Straight)

 

 

 

Personally I think this topic has no point. Yes, there is discussion value here, but it is all about political correctness and moral standpoints. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks on this topic.

 

 

 

Off topic: I LOL at all the people saying they are Atheist. If I could guess I would say that 80-90% of the people saying they are Atheist are Agnostic or are not sure, but that's just me.

 

 

 

Aheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

 

Agnostic: a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

 

 

 

peace,

 

Vann

 

I think most people know what Atheism is at least :roll:

 

 

 

I hate political correctnes tbh, there isn't much point bringing it into Runescape.

[Vann]

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Stance: Not right for the game, but personally in real life I have no care either way. No one has the right to judge another person

 

Religion: Non-Denominational Christian (Raised Methodist)

 

Orientation: Heterosexual (Straight)

 

 

 

Personally I think this topic has no point. Yes, there is discussion value here, but it is all about political correctness and moral standpoints. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks on this topic.

 

 

 

Off topic: I LOL at all the people saying they are Atheist. If I could guess I would say that 80-90% of the people saying they are Atheist are Agnostic or are not sure, but that's just me.

 

 

 

Aheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

 

Agnostic: a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

 

 

 

peace,

 

Vann

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I think most people know what Atheism is at least :roll:

 

 

 

I hate political correctnes tbh, there isn't much point bringing it into Runescape.

 

 

 

I beg to differ. Many people don't know what atheism is. MANY people think if they don't believe in God they are Atheist, which is not true.

 

 

 

peace,

 

Vann

[Kaida23]

I'm not denying the biological differences between heterosexual people and homosexual people. However, because we are human, we do have a choice. That's what being human is: the ability to chose, the ability to think. Someone who has the inclination to have sex with another man doesn't have to do it.

 

The choice is only whether or not to act upon those impulses, which is the same choice heterosexuals have by the way. Whether or not you are sexually attracted to members of your own sex is not a choice.

[magzar]

Jard, please don't cite Wikipedia, I can go on there right now and make an entry on the subject of Jard_Y_Dooku, and make it say that you're a 375 pound woman from haiti who tried to float to freedom on a raft, ended up in the bermuda triangle, and was transformed into a three-headed omnipotent goat.

 

 

 

Likewise anyone can make an entry on their beliefs without any actual fact. Many of those biological differences you cited are caused by lifestyle, and are not genetic. There have been no concrete scientific findings proving that there are any biological or physiological reasons for a man or woman to be gay. That's why it's still debated. If what you were saying was true, then there would be no debate, and there would likely be medication available to change the brain chemistry which makes people gay. When I said do research, I didn't mean wikipedia.

[Will H]

I think you've forgotten what the 'marriage' thing is about. It's a formality, and you don't have to actually be in love with the prince/princess.

 

 

 

This is getting way over the top. :lol:

 

 

 

Stance: No.

 

Religion: Christian.

 

Orientation: Heterosexual.

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

Not worth it for Jagex, it would create way too much controversy.

 

 

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Heterosexual

 

Opinion: No

 

 

 

And to JARD_Y_DOOKU:

 

 

 

I'm not denying the biological differences between heterosexual people and homosexual people. However, because we are human, we do have a choice. That's what being human is: the ability to chose, the ability to think. Someone who has the inclination to have sex with another man doesn't have to do it. Animals have to do it, they can't think. Humans don't.

 

 

 

Yes we DO have to do it, we are animals too. We're talking about strict science here, not philosophical opinions on choice, that's for another debate. Also, homosexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom; please do research before posting.

 

 

 

You can't always trust Wikipedia...

 

 

 

That's an excuse for having been proven wrong; no offense, but it's used very often by people who can't think of a good comeback. If you are familiar with Wikipedia's system, you'll notice all the little [##] scattered around the facts I posted. This shows that the information was cited from reliable sources which you are free to check for yourself by clicking on them...

 

 

 

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Religion: Christian

 

Stance: Jagex does not need to become involved in the Gay Rights' Movement. I believe that Jagex should allow the parents of each individual player to teach their children as they wish without the concern of a gaming company pushing their ideas on their child.

 

 

 

It has nothing to do with teaching anything or pushing ideas. You cannot consciously choose your sexual orientation.

 

 

 

Well as you said before, you believe that there is something in their genetics as proven by science, but not everyone believes that, but that is another debate for another time. But if Jagex were to do this, they would be pushing the message for gay marriage and saying that everyone should support it, but not all parents think that way. Therefor, the parents should be able to discuss this matter, (gay marriage), with their children as they wish.

 

 

 

I am a man of science and logic, not opinion. There are proven biological differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals. I think the most reason people think it is a choice is because their religion tells them so, or because homosexuals do not want to feel that they are "incorrect"... but people with disabilities do just fine. Stephen Hawking is almost fully paralyzed, but he doesn't go around trying to convince people that he is "normal". All this debate on whether it's biologically set, or a choice, stems from mental insecurity. We should simply accept all of ourselves for who we are, and continue on with our lives as normal.

 

 

 

No one should feel ill towards themselves or others because there is something wrong with their body. My feet are somewhat misaligned. I had to have my wisdom teeth removed. No matter.

 

 

 

One more thing I forgot to mention: only a male and female mammal together, can reproduce. Two males or two females cannot. Yes, this is a simple fact but it cannot be overlooked.

 

 

 

I'd advise you to read the following excerpt, and perhaps the full article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation):

 

 

 

Biological differences in gay men and lesbians

 

 

 

[edit] Physiological

 

 

 

Recent studies have found notable differences between the physiology of gay people and non-gay people. There is evidence that:

 

 

 

* Gay men have similar brains to those of straight women and gay women to those of straight men [49]

 

* The average size of the INAH-3 in the brains of gay men is approximately the same size as INAH 3 in women, which is significantly smaller, and the cells more densely packed, than in heterosexual men's brains.[5]

 

* The suprachiasmatic nucleus was found by Swaab and Hopffman to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[50] the suprachiasmatic nucleus is also known to be larger in men than in women.[51]

 

* The anterior commissure is larger in women than men and was reported to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[52] but a subsequent study found no such difference.[53]

 

* Gay men report, on an average, slightly longer and thicker penises than non-gay men.[54]

 

* Gay men's brains respond differently to fluoxetine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.[55]

 

* The functioning of the inner ear and the central auditory system in lesbians and bisexual women are more like the functional properties found in men than in non-gay women (the researchers argued this finding was consistent with the prenatal hormonal theory of sexual orientation).[56]

 

* The startle response (eyeblink following a loud sound) is similarly masculinized in lesbians and bisexual women.[57]

 

* Three regions of the brain (medial prefrontal cortex, left hippocampus, and right amygdala) are more active in gay men than non-gay men when exposed to sexually arousing material.[58]

 

* Gay and non-gay people emit different armpit odors.[59]

 

* Gay men are more likely to have a counter-clockwise hair whorl pattern.[60]

 

* Gay and non-gay people's brains respond differently to two human sex pheromones (AND, found in male armpit secretions, and EST, found in female urine).[61][62][63]

 

* Finger length ratios between the index and ring fingers may be different between non-gay and lesbian women.[64][65][56][66][67][68]

 

 

 

[edit] Cognitive

 

 

 

Recent studies suggest the presence of subtle differences in the way gay people and non-gay people process certain kinds of information. Researchers have found that:

 

 

 

* Gay men and lesbians are significantly more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous than are non-gay men and women;[69][70][71] Simon LeVay argues that because "[h]and preference is observable before birth[72]... [t]he observation of increased non-right-handness in gay people is therefore consistent with the idea that sexual orientation is influenced by prenatal processes," perhaps heredity.[5]

 

* Gay men[73] and lesbians are more verbally fluent than heterosexuals of the same sex[74][75][76] (but two studies did not find this result).[77][78]

 

* Gay men may receive higher scores than non-gay men on tests of object location memory (no difference was found between lesbians and non-gay women).[79]

 

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i'm not particularly going either way in the socialisation vs. genetics debate as far as homosexuality is concerned, however, I don't think it is a valid point to say that just because there are biological differences in homo males and hetero males, proves that homosexuality is in some form genetic. There is a pretty massive biological difference between the brain of a "normal" person and that of an addict. There is some proof pointing towards addiction being a genetic trait, however, there are addicts who do not show this same genetic difference. However, ALL addicts brain composition and chemical interactions are different from a normal persons. In the case of an addict, it was the addicts choice that caused the biological difference. So to rule out socialization based purely on the fact that there are biological differences is pretty short sighted.

 

 

 

The biggest thing you're forgetting is that their choice to use that product was not the determining factor in the difference in brain composition, but the repeated use of it. Continually snorting cocaine or other dangerous drugs will change the composition of your brain, but to start with, it's fine. AFTER using the drug is when the composition changes.

[mikeg0477]

Jard, please don't cite Wikipedia, I can go on there right now and make an entry on the subject of Jard_Y_Dooku, and make it say that you're a 375 pound woman from haiti who tried to float to freedom on a raft, ended up in the bermuda triangle, and was transformed into a three-headed omnipotent goat.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

 

OT:

 

Stance: Would cause far too many problems, especially in the US. There would be sermons, FOX "News" reports, and all the other right-wing gasbags calling for a boycott of the game. Kids would be told by their parents not to play in many cases. I support equal marriage rights for all couples IRL, but in RS? It's just not needed.

 

Religion: Athiest (Yes Vann, I know what it means)

 

Orientation: Straight

[Mb1911]

Jard, please don't cite Wikipedia, I can go on there right now and make an entry on the subject of Jard_Y_Dooku, and make it say that you're a 375 pound woman from haiti who tried to float to freedom on a raft, ended up in the bermuda triangle, and was transformed into a three-headed omnipotent goat.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

 

OT:

 

Stance: Would cause far too many problems, especially in the US. There would be sermons, FOX "News" reports, and all the other right-wing gasbags calling for a boycott of the game. Kids would be told by their parents not to play in many cases. I support equal marriage rights for all couples IRL, but in RS? It's just not needed.

 

Religion: Athiest (Yes Vann, I know what it means)

 

Orientation: Straight

 

 

 

If you're criticizing FOX News, surely you don't watch MSNBC either. If Jagex took the opposite stance and said they do not believe in gay marriage, the far-left smear machine would do the exact same thing, but only they would have less viewers so it wouldn't make any difference. But surely you believe that it is up to the parents to decide?

[kill2pleasure]

Look at it this way,

 

 

 

Some people may not play the game due to having this in the game, i would still play, but some ppl think that ways

 

 

 

It could also be a business thing, they wouldn't put features in that would upset players :P

 

 

 

Stance: either way for me :D

 

Religion: Not really have one

 

Orientation: Hetero

[Rapono]

if my views and opinions cannot be expressed without people bashing me then i will take my business elsewhere. i have my own rights you know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kind of ironic in a thread like this, isnt it?

[Clay_More12]

Its not like the game is their Life... so they shouldn't worry about it :lol:

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

if my views and opinions cannot be expressed without people bashing me then i will take my business elsewhere. i have my own rights you know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

kind of ironic in a thread like this, isnt it?

 

 

 

You could be more polite when doing so. Instead of:

 

 

 

lololol [bleep]s r gay i dont like them cos they stupd

 

 

 

consider:

 

 

 

I don't really approve of homosexuality and I don't think any sort of homosexual content should be added to the game.

 

 

 

If you'd said it like the second way, no one would have complained. But you acted rudely. No one wants to stop you from expressing your views and opinions, but we want you to do so in a polite and respectful manner... do you understand what I am saying?

[mikeg0477]

Jard, please don't cite Wikipedia, I can go on there right now and make an entry on the subject of Jard_Y_Dooku, and make it say that you're a 375 pound woman from haiti who tried to float to freedom on a raft, ended up in the bermuda triangle, and was transformed into a three-headed omnipotent goat.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

 

 

OT:

 

Stance: Would cause far too many problems, especially in the US. There would be sermons, FOX "News" reports, and all the other right-wing gasbags calling for a boycott of the game. Kids would be told by their parents not to play in many cases. I support equal marriage rights for all couples IRL, but in RS? It's just not needed.

 

Religion: Athiest (Yes Vann, I know what it means)

 

Orientation: Straight

 

 

 

If you're criticizing FOX News, surely you don't watch MSNBC either. If Jagex took the opposite stance and said they do not believe in gay marriage, the far-left smear machine would do the exact same thing, but only they would have less viewers so it wouldn't make any difference. But surely you believe that it is up to the parents to decide?

 

Nope, I don't watch MSNBC. I'm not into the whole "let us tell you what to think" slant of most cable news stations.

 

As far as them believing or not believing in gay marriage isn't really the issue. I'm sure that Jagex doesn't believe in actual magic, or dragons , but they are in the game.

 

Yes, I do think that a parent has a responsibility to decide what their child should or should not play. But I think it's wrong to teach that someone is "bad" or "good" based solely on sexual orientation.

[Rapono]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lololol [bleep]s r gay i dont like them cos they stupd

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

I don't really approve of homosexuality and I don't think any sort of homosexual content should be added to the

 

 

 

both sentences deliver the same meaning.

 

 

 

2+2=4

 

1+3=4

 

 

 

they are different ways of getting there. either way, the end result is the same.

[Napalm]

Stance: No, people would then start complaining the game is Gay, they would start homophobic riots, etc.

 

Religion: Atheist

 

Orientation: Heterosexual

[Chained_life]

No... I'm already tired of them putting global warming and **** like that in the game. KEEP THIS GAME PC (POLITICALLY CORRECT) free, PLEASE. I deal with that crap enough in real life.

 

 

 

Stance: NO

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Heterosexual

[Musky44]

If this was added it, it would just cause lots of problems with immature kids.

 

So, yea, that'd be stupid to introduce it, this isn't real life.

[Hobgoblinpie]

So, yea, that'd be stupid to introduce it, this isn't real life.

 

 

 

Except some people believe the game is their life :roll:

[jjjon123]

Stance: They should not add it to the game for reasons already listed (parents complaining, mass player loss)

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Straight

 

 

 

PS. Saying that "Homosexuality is based on a hormonal inbalance" is just an excuse atheist scientists made up to allay the guilt that Homosexuality is WRONG and is unnatural, making it a "natural, civilized" preference. :roll:

 

 

 

Speaking of civilized, you should have seen how the (pro-gay) people acted (scraming, yelling, assaulting, [illegal] vote manipulation :-w )

[ZaraOhara]

I don't think homosexuality should be in runescape since we are not allowed to disclose personal information or really talk in game about politics and religion, sex in general and other controversial topics. It would just be more trouble for Jagex than it is worth with all the complaints and I think the immature idiots who play rs and have no tact would flame openly gay people.

 

 

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Straight

[Racheya]

homos are [bleep]s

 

keep it to yourself

 

I seriously think you were put on this world to piss me off. :x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lololol [bleep]s r gay i dont like them cos they stupd

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

I don't really approve of homosexuality and I don't think any sort of homosexual content should be added to the

 

 

 

both sentences deliver the same meaning.

 

 

 

2+2=4

 

1+3=4

 

 

 

they are different ways of getting there. either way, the end result is the same.

 

They give the same result, but one is insulting while the other is not. The second is an opinion, the first is an insult. You CAN make an opinion without being an [wagon] you know.

 

 

 

Stance: They should not add it to the game for reasons already listed (parents complaining, mass player loss)

 

Religion: Christian

 

Orientation: Straight

 

 

 

PS. Saying that "Homosexuality is based on a hormonal inbalance" is just an excuse atheist scientists made up to allay the guilt that Homosexuality is WRONG and is unnatural, making it a "natural, civilized" preference. :roll:

 

 

 

Speaking of civilized, you should have seen how the (pro-gay) people acted (scraming, yelling, assaulting, [illegal] vote manipulation :-w )

 

Yeah, those silly scientists and controlled experiments! :roll: