I've been reading a lot about them lately, and some of their policies seem very disturbing at times. Their policies concerning immigration seem beyond cultural preservation and to the point of blatant racism to me. I've also noticed that they censor (by removing) comments on their discussion boards that criticize their policies and almost every image on Bnp.org.uk looks like propaganda. I've also read that they are likely to gain a lot of power in UK politics in June.

 

 

 

What I have been wondering is this: Is the British National Party really going to infringe upon basic human rights? With their immigration policies, do they also plan to deport/prevent whites who aren't British citizens (but are of British heritage)? What about Britons who are married to Thais or other ethnic groups? How exactly do they plan to relate with the rest of the world?

I read last week that Nick Griffin believes that "blacks and asians can't be British", "a black Briton does not exist." That seems pretty racist to me, I certainly wouldn't want them in power.

Racist asshats. Kill them all!

 

But seriously. Nazis can't survive in this time and age. They'll be crushed, literally, before they send anyone anywhere, or make any racist decisions.

 

What the hell, they are supposed to be encouraging people to come into Britain. :wall:

They really are quite special. :mrgreen:

 

Have absolutely no Idea, take their policy on the troubles in Northern Ireland for example;

 

In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles

 

Sure the people of Rep. Ireland would love that ffs. :mrgreen:

I wouldn't go so far as to call them Nazis, but they're certainly very racist. I remember reading their policy on deportment on their wesbsite: it was very well-worded, but they were essentialy saying the want to pay off anyone not British and ship them back where they came from. People who vote for them are just ignorant racists themselves. I do think some of their policies are based on sensible ideas (people get away with discrimination against white people too much), but their whole manifesto is founded on bigotry.

They are actually quite likely to get the odd political seat in the next election, but Nationalists generally do in times of economic crisis, anyone who knows basic history would know this has happened before with dire consequences. BNP members actually seem fairly intelligent for an extreme party, and believe it or not do raise the odd legitimate issue which I doubt any moderate party would bring themselves to discuss, but it's their severely racist conclusions that lets them down.

 

 

 

They are both racist (I don't think the term 'Nazi' is entirely appropriate here) and slightly misunderstood.

They really are quite special. :mrgreen:

 

Have absolutely no Idea, take their policy on the troubles in Northern Ireland for example;

 

In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles

 

Sure the people of Rep. Ireland would love that ffs. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Yes, that's what them Damn IRA have been fighting for all along!! They actually want to be part of Britain, not have the 6 counties returned to the Republic!!!

 

 

 

That guy is [bleep]ing genius :lol:

They want to legalize rape.

 

Rape is just sex, women like sex, therefore women should just like rape!

 

Another quote from them.

 

A woman is like a gong. It must be struck daily.

 

 

 

How they're married, god knows. And they're definitely nazis.

Wow...

 

Extremists, what are you gonna do about 'em?

 

Seriously, are these people kidding? They cannot be serious, can they?

 

Legalize rape? Deport all black/asian people?

 

What in the [wagon] are they thinking?

Nothing to add about BNP as i don't know much about them, but i wouldn't vote for them.

 

 

 

2 semi off-topic things:

 

Apperently, the party in Sweden i'll vote for (SD) is flagged as red on WOT. I find if funny, as ND is flagged green lol.

 

And a question, how is BNP's stance on immigrants who commit crimes? Do they say that after x sentences they shall be kicked out?

 

I personally believe they should be (depending on how many times and what crime they've commited). There's a paragraph somewhere in the law book in my country which enables a judge to send an immigrant home if they've raped someone, but it's (basically) never practiced.

 

 

 

Sorry for the semi-ot.

OldJoe, I think nowadays due to the paranoia of World terrorism mosts Visa come with the condition that if you commit a crime while staying in the country you have the Visa for, it is legal for you to be deported. Not entirely sure on all countries though.

Ah alright.

 

I did a quick check on wiki, and it said you can be refused to get a Visa if "has a criminal record or has criminal charges pending" (amongst other things).

 

I guess, as you say, if you can get refused a Visa from crime-x, you can get kicked out too. But it doesn't seem to be practiced much.

It's too bad they are a racist - things like "whites only" just hurt the number of people voting for them. Aside from that however they seem like a fairly legitimate party that wants to reverse many of the more backward policies in the UK.

While they are overly racist, if they were that bad, they would've been shut down by now, either that, or the House of Lords know they'll never be in power, either way, they'll never be able to convince a large percentage of Britain to support their policies.

They want to legalize rape.

 

Rape is just sex, women like sex, therefore women should just like rape!

 

Another quote from them.

 

A woman is like a gong. It must be struck daily.

 

 

 

How they're married, god knows. And they're definitely nazis.

 

I doubt that's a BNP policy, it's got nothing to do with why the BNP exists. That's just general sexism. Anyway, I'd like a source.

 

 

 

P.S. I don't support the BNP, but I don't like smears when I smell one.

This site brings up a very good point: http://bnp.org.uk/2007/12/is-the-bnp-racist/

 

 

 

While I disagree with them about the BNP not being racist, I still think it's silly how most people would be completely indifferent to groups in that list but jump right on the BNP because they are a white-only group.

 

 

 

Racism is racism no matter what races are involved. The groups which are listed on that site aren't much different than the BNP.

I'm not too sure about them, but i know i dislike them, but thats just because they or somebody associated with them threatened my A-Level history teacher.

 

 

 

He's white, British, Christain etc, but put something on his website about ww2 for his students, can't remember specifically but it got the BNP's attention, and he got some threatening emails #-o

This site brings up a very good point: http://bnp.org.uk/2007/12/is-the-bnp-racist/

 

 

 

While I disagree with them about the BNP not being racist, I still think it's silly how most people would be completely indifferent to groups in that list but jump right on the BNP because they are a white-only group.

 

 

 

Racism is racism no matter what races are involved. The groups which are listed on that site aren't much different than the BNP.

 

 

 

The difference between the BNP and those groups:

 

The BNP express hatred towards others and are intolerant. Those groups are simply groups for people of thier heritage.

 

Just because it's a group for one particular ethnicity, doesn't instantly make it racist.

Just because it's a group for one particular ethnicity, doesn't instantly make it racist.

 

 

 

The American electorate only existed because of white people in a country founded by white people. This doesn't mean that it's not racist to deny blacks the right to vote. I do think the BNP is racist on a much worse level than the groups on that site, but it is all racism nonetheless. Denying someone from entering a group based on their race is racism.

This site brings up a very good point: http://bnp.org.uk/2007/12/is-the-bnp-racist/

 

 

 

While I disagree with them about the BNP not being racist, I still think it's silly how most people would be completely indifferent to groups in that list but jump right on the BNP because they are a white-only group.

 

 

 

Racism is racism no matter what races are involved. The groups which are listed on that site aren't much different than the BNP.

 

 

 

There's quite a difference though, BNP isn't a "community" group getting together to socialize. They're a political party with pretty outrageous views on immigrants and immigration in general. The difference being, many of the groups mentioned are get together groups or sites for minorities so they can discuss things relating to their general likes, culture, happenings etc.

 

 

 

The other sites are about as racist as me moving to say, Boston and forming an Irish community group where we can get together discuss the Irish sports, have a bit of fun, discuss what's going on at home and other Irish related things in general. The BNP, they get together to discuss how to throw every person who isn't British into the back of a lorry and onto a boat.

Let Mr. Sutler through, people... before V kills him.

There's quite a difference though, BNP isn't a "community" group getting together to socialize. They're a political party with pretty outrageous views on immigrants and immigration in general. The difference being, many of the groups mentioned are get together groups or sites for minorities so they can discuss things relating to their general likes, culture, happenings etc.

 

 

 

The other sites are about as racist as me moving to say, Boston and forming an Irish community group where we can get together discuss the Irish sports, have a bit of fun, discuss what's going on at home and other Irish related things in general. The BNP, they get together to discuss how to throw every person who isn't British into the back of a lorry and onto a boat.

 

 

 

Yes, there is a big difference. BNP is a lot more hateful and intolerant than those groups but they are still exercising racism. What can black cops discuss that has no relevance to a white cop? And also, I am 99.99% sure that if a white cop committee was organized it would be labeled racist and be prohibited. Society is somehow fine with the idea of an all black organization though and this is hypocrisy.

 

 

 

The problem isn't like-minded people joining together to discuss their general likes - the problem is refusing to accept someone because of their race.

It's a fact that men are intimidated by outspoken women so why would they want women to be equal? They'll lose all their "power". I don't think I'm welcome in a particular doctor surgery anymore after confronting a doctor who treated his female patients like a piece of crap and spoke down to them. I don't care what culture you're from mate, when you practice in Australia you treat people equally 8-)

They really are quite special. :mrgreen:

 

Have absolutely no Idea, take their policy on the troubles in Northern Ireland for example;

 

In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles

 

Sure the people of Rep. Ireland would love that ffs. :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Yes, that's what them Damn IRA have been fighting for all along!! They actually want to be part of Britain, not have the 6 counties returned to the Republic!!!

 

 

 

That guy is [bleep] genius :lol:

 

Oh no wait did you read what was before that?

 

 

NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!

 

 

 

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago.

 

 

 

Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government.

 

 

 

We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all.

 

 

 

No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles

 

 

 

 

 

http://bnp.org.uk/policies-2/northern-ireland/

 

 

 

 

Some of the replies are just as funny :lol: :lol:

PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE! DONT CALL ME A RACIST PLEASE. and I don't support the BNP either.

 

 

 

Discussion here seems to be pretty one-sided, so...

 

 

 

From the BNP website:

 

IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!

 

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

 

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

 

Is there really much wrong with this?

 

 

 

Racism - discrimination against a person or group of people purely on the basis of race.

 

 

 

But the BNP don't discriminate against people purely on the basis of race, do they? Maybe things have been different in the past (certainly there was racist things said by now old BNP members) but from the above, their concern seems to be with 'preserving' British culture, not blindly hating people who aren't British. There's a difference.

 

 

 

Like I said... just putting another argument across.

 

 

 

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britains family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

 

 

 

Their whole attitude is far too nationalistic, but do they really deserve to be labelled racists? I dunno.