Sri Lankan Protestors

[Robert_de_Sable]

It's interesting how none of you reply with logic. Just insults.

 

Oh goodness, the lower intellect called me a punk-[wagon]. Good lord. I better stop now, right?

 

People like you really piss me off. You go against totalitarianism and police states, but you refuse to allow me to have my own views, because they make me a punk-[wagon]. Really? You make people fighting for your own cause look stupid. Use logic in your arguments, you stupid [bleep].

[Dizzle229]

It's interesting how none of you reply with logic. Just insults.

 

Oh goodness, the lower intellect called me a punk-[wagon]. Good lord. I better stop now, right?

 

People like you really piss me off. You go against totalitarianism and police states, but you refuse to allow me to have my own views, because they make me a punk-[wagon]. Really? You make people fighting for your own cause look stupid. Use logic in your arguments, you stupid [bleep].

 

 

 

4/5 of those sentences were insults, I'd say that qualifies.

[Robert_de_Sable]

I didn't only use insults, logic as well.

[Dizzle229]

Barely.

 

 

 

You're confusing not allowing your opinion with disagreeing.

 

 

 

Kinda funny now that I think about it, you support totalitarianism and you're pissed because you think we're not letting you have your opinion :lol:

[Orpheus]

Oh goodness, the lower intellect called me a punk-[wagon]. Good lord. I better stop now, right?

 

People like you really piss me off. You go against totalitarianism and police states, but you refuse to allow me to have my own views, because they make me a punk-[wagon]. Really? You make people fighting for your own cause look stupid. Use logic in your arguments, you stupid [bleep].

 

Actually, that seems rather fitting of you. You're a totalitarian punk who think everything goes your way and you call anything that you don't like stupid or savage.

 

 

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us. And you insult me in almost every sentence, which doesn't make your argument any better AND I automatically won against you. When your "opinion" is bigoted and hateful, we can tear your views apart. You are entitled to them though. And I live in a country that isn't fighting anything right now.

 

 

 

And you want logic, I'll give you logic. You think that anything that can't contribute to society or share your views should be killed, as was made obvious in the thread of the anencephiliac baby. By that logic, I should be killed simply because I disagree with you.

[meol]

Let's drop the name-calling altogether, both of you. An argument is one thing, but you're just running in circles now.

[Orpheus]

Let's drop the name-calling altogether, both of you. An argument is one thing, but you're just running in circles now.

 

I'm willing to drop it, which would be redundant knowing I can't reason with him.

[Infi]

In my [bleep] city.

 

GTFO.

 

Discuss.

 

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_31515.aspx

 

Hey :mrgreen:

 

I didn't know any other TIF'ers lived in Toronto, I do too by the way!

 

 

 

But yeah, you can tell people here don't know the actual situation going down in Toronto. I'm all for peaceful protests and actually encourage the awareness of such atrocities, but when it when it clogs up the whole Gardiner expressway with their protests and blocking the transit lines then that's going way too far. Their "campaign" has become nothing more than a nuisance to me, although I initially supported it. They could have chosen an alternate method to show their concern and speak their voice. However, they chose the wrong route. :|

[EdgedThesis]

Hm. Seems like we who do not know the true situation shouldn't speak so strongly.

[i_love_burritos]

Aaaaand this is why I love OT.

 

 

 

Page 1, Robert De Sable brings up Sri Lankan protesters, and his problem with them, like an annoyed but less-racially motivated skin head and then I scroll down, jump to page three and we're talking about Stalingrad and the Second World War.

 

 

 

Either way, since I have nothing to contribute, I'll just say you're all Nazis for the heck' of it.

 

 

 

And Robert, next time you're held upside down by your ankles, in some godforsaken cave in Tora Bora, and being mercilessly flogged -- don't expect any sympathy from me or the Canadian Government. In fact, here in Australia, I don't give, to use the vernacular, a rats arse about you.

 

 

 

You know I'm joking. I actually love you Robert, you're such a nice, funny, warm-hearted guy. I'm serious.

[1_man_army]

 

 

 

even murder his fellow Nazi's

 

Er... what?

 

 

 

Adolph Hitler was a megalomaniac who allowed his delusional beliefs to get in the way of his tactical brilliance. Combine Adolph Hitler's war-mongering mind with a sane brain and you have a fearsome world conqueror.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hitler purged the Nazi party during the night of the long knives in 1934 just a year after the party had came to power within Germany. One of the most prominent victims of this was Enrst Rohm who led the SA (paramilitary branch of the Nazi party).

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Röhm

 

 

 

As I previously stated Hitler was not considered to be a great military tactician, he made several mistakes during the war this is one of the biggest reasons why he was not assassinated by Britain as had been planned with Operation Foxley.

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Foxley

 

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Before anyone complains that I've given Wikipedia links as sources, I don't have the time to search for better ones. If you doubt my sources feel free to do your own research.

[Robert_de_Sable]

 

Actually, that seems rather fitting of you. You're a totalitarian punk who think everything goes your way and you call anything that you don't like stupid or savage.

 

 

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us. And you insult me in almost every sentence, which doesn't make your argument any better AND I automatically won against you. When your "opinion" is bigoted and hateful, we can tear your views apart. You are entitled to them though. And I live in a country that isn't fighting anything right now.

 

 

 

And you want logic, I'll give you logic. You think that anything that can't contribute to society or share your views should be killed, as was made obvious in the thread of the anencephiliac baby. By that logic, I should be killed simply because I disagree with you.

 

 

 

totalitarian punk

 

I'm neither a Totalitarian nor a punk.

 

 

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us.

 

 

Because you disagree with me?

 

 

 

bigoted and hateful

 

Hateful yes, bigoted not so much.

 

 

 

You think that anything that can't contribute to society or share your views should be killed

 

The first bit is true, but I don't know where you got the "share your views" bit.

[EdgedThesis]

So that entire euthanization thing wasn't an experiment?

 

 

 

Stop jumping back and forth, man!

[Faux]

the hell man, I came here to make fun of the Sri Lankan protestors and the topic changed to the US? Boo

[Latinoking]

 

But yeah, you can tell people here don't know the actual situation going down in Toronto. I'm all for peaceful protests and actually encourage the awareness of such atrocities, but when it when it clogs up the whole Gardiner expressway with their protests and blocking the transit lines then that's going way too far. Their "campaign" has become nothing more than a nuisance to me, although I initially supported it. They could have chosen an alternate method to show their concern and speak their voice. However, they chose the wrong route. :|

 

 

 

This is what Robert should have gone in-depth with, not just "GTFO."

 

 

 

The police should have or should be able to handle it though.

[RichieMcD]

Wanna get them out? Urge your govnuh to help bring peace in Sri Lanka.

 

In civilized countries we call that blackmail.

 

 

 

 

1. It's not blackmail if you don't hold something over their head.

 

2. Why wouldn't you try to go for peace?

 

 

 

Seriously, they're protesting for a reason, and in this case it's a damn good one.

 

Why in the hell should I care about what's happening in Sri Lanka?

 

 

 

It's called sympathy, you seem to be turning into more and more of an apathetic [puncture] with every topic you create.

 

 

 

Civil war breaks out in Canada, members of your family are killed, you lose your home and are living in terror of being killed, you call on the outside world to help you or try to raise awareness? Should we care at all?

 

 

 

Oh goodness, the lower intellect called me a punk-[wagon]. Good lord. I better stop now, right?

 

People like you really piss me off. You go against totalitarianism and police states, but you refuse to allow me to have my own views, because they make me a punk-[wagon]. Really? You make people fighting for your own cause look stupid. Use logic in your arguments, you stupid [bleep].

 

 

 

It's interesting how none of you reply with logic. Just insults.

 

 

 

Hypocrisy at the minimum. Robert, what's your definition of logic? It seems to defy the common definition of it.

[Orpheus]

 

Actually, that seems rather fitting of you. You're a totalitarian punk who think everything goes your way and you call anything that you don't like stupid or savage.

 

 

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us. And you insult me in almost every sentence, which doesn't make your argument any better AND I automatically won against you. When your "opinion" is bigoted and hateful, we can tear your views apart. You are entitled to them though. And I live in a country that isn't fighting anything right now.

 

 

 

And you want logic, I'll give you logic. You think that anything that can't contribute to society or share your views should be killed, as was made obvious in the thread of the anencephiliac baby. By that logic, I should be killed simply because I disagree with you.

 

 

 

totalitarian punk

 

I'm neither a Totalitarian nor a punk.

 

 

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us.

 

 

Because you disagree with me?

 

 

 

bigoted and hateful

 

Hateful yes, bigoted not so much.

 

 

 

You think that anything that can't contribute to society or share your views should be killed

 

The first bit is true, but I don't know where you got the "share your views" bit.

 

 

 

1. You insulted a lot of people so far. Making you a punk. Your views do align with some Totalitarian beliefs though.

 

2. Not because I respectfully disagree, but because you find reason to make mindless and baseless insults against anyone who disagrees. I won't even quote things either, as they're all obvious.

 

3. Hateful indeed, but by the very definition bigoted.

 

 

 

 

Bigot: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

 

 

 

Bigoted might be a bit strong a word here, but if you want, I'll look through past threads and find proof.

 

 

 

4. The "share your views" part and can't contribute to society part go hand-in-hand there buddy.

[obfuscator]

I was in toronto the other day, and some little girl asked my friend: "do you want to sign this petition to save the tamils?". He thought she said "camels" so he signed it. :lol:

[Furah]

 

You're not welcome here, and I say that for a good portion of us.

 

 

Because you disagree with me?

 

 

I'm part of that "good portion", I give up on reading your topics.

[amoeba_009]

I was in toronto the other day, and some little girl asked my friend: "do you want to sign this petition to save the tamils?". He thought she said "camels" so he signed it. :lol:

 

:lol:

 

 

 

Wanna get them out? Urge your govnuh to help bring peace in Sri Lanka.

 

In civilized countries we call that blackmail.

 

 

 

 

1. It's not blackmail if you don't hold something over their head.

 

2. Why wouldn't you try to go for peace?

 

 

 

Seriously, they're protesting for a reason, and in this case it's a damn good one.

 

Why in the hell should I care about what's happening in Sri Lanka?

 

 

 

When it boils down to it we're a global community, [bleep]wad.

[Faux]

Robert is kind of a [bleep], but he's right in this. We're talking about CANADA, not US. Canada has no business putting soldiers in Sri Lanka.

 

 

 

It sucks that there's a civil war going on in Sri Lanka, but I don't want Canada to be involved with it.

[RichieMcD]

Robert is kind of a [bleep], but he's right in this. We're talking about CANADA, not US. Canada has no business putting soldiers in Sri Lanka.

 

 

 

It sucks that there's a civil war going on in Sri Lanka, but I don't want Canada to be involved with it.

 

 

 

Why does it always have to be "soldiers put in"?

 

 

 

Whoever said "go over with your soldiers and liberate us", there is many other simple solutions for helping in the strife. Placing financial sanctions on Sri Lanka could be beneficial, agreeing not to trade with them until it ceases. Of course, this is only viable if the aggressor in this is the government party in power, otherwise it's pretty much useless.

 

 

 

The US has no business either putting their soldiers in Sri Lanka, or any other country at that until it poses a risk to US security (and that doesn't constitute terrorist groups with no government backing)

[Faux]

You think a war going on for over two decades now is just gonna stop through stern talking? When did that ever work for the UN?

[baron8000]

You think a war going on for over two decades now is just gonna stop through stern talking? When did that ever work for the UN?

 

 

 

I think ending the war is a long term goal. One of the main protest points at the moment (at least in the UK, and certainly with Amnesty International) is the lack of access given to humanitarian charities and aid groups and the like.

 

 

 

Oh, and Robert, here is one of the reasons people care about countries outside their own, please, tell me why it is illogical or misplaced.

 

 

 

When the Nazis came for the communists,

 

I remained silent;

 

I was not a communist.

 

 

 

Then they locked up the social democrats,

 

I remained silent;

 

I was not a social democrat.

 

 

 

Then they came for the trade unionists,

 

I did not speak out;

 

I was not a trade unionist.

 

 

 

Then they came for the Jews,

 

I did not speak out;

 

I was not a Jew.

 

 

 

When they came for me,

 

there was no one left to speak out for me.

 

 

 

Also, TIF, just because the poem involves Nazi's and Communists does not make it a WW2 discussion point ;)

[aquariusman]

I am very tempted at this moment to talk to some of the people I know and have them explain the protests, just so I can actually give a solid explanation.

 

 

 

Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and use what I've picked up from Wikipedia, and the people I've talked to. Nothing in depth form the people I've talked to, the most I got was a quick run-down of why the protests are happening.

 

 

 

Currently in Sri Lanka, there is a civil war going on between the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, and the Sri Lankan government. The Tamil Tigers are fighting to create an independent state for the minority Tamil population. The problem is their tactics. According to Wikipedia and it's sources, the Tamil Tigers essentially 'pioneered' the suicide bomber, and use children as fighters (As young as 14 currently). Now, this has the Tamil Tigers listed as a terrorist organization in 32 countries.

 

 

 

In Sri Lanka, there is a 'no-fire zone' set-up for civilians. The Sri Lanka Army has pushed the Tigers back into this area, so there is currently fighting going on in that area. There are currently 50,000 reported to be stuck between the conflict, and there is much pressure for these civilians to be allowed to evacuate. "On April 22, 2009, the UN Security Council has called on Tamil Tiger rebels to lay down their arms and let the UN help evacuate civilians from the war zone."

 

 

 

From what I've heard, there are two stances within the protests: those that wish for a cease-fire that would allow the civilians to evacuate, and those that want an end to the war, most likely through the Tamil Tigers laying down their arms. Really, the second ideal will lead to the first. Thousands have died so far. Recently in one night alone, nearly 500 were killed, with over 1,000 injured, due to a shelling of the no-fire zone.

 

 

 

So, essentially, there is a civil war going on. Civilians are dying. The protests are to end the war and get those people away from the fighting.

 

 

 

[hide=Now, my opinion on this.]The war obviously needs to stop, and the Tamil Tigers either need to find new peaceful tactics, or just stop what they are doing.

 

 

 

With the two situations that the protesters want, I think it shows a person's alignment with the Tamil Tigers. Someone who wants the Tigers to lay down their arms is not likely to support their tactics. Someone who wants simply a ceasefire, and then let the fighting continue, is much more likely to support the Tigers.

 

 

 

So, I support the side of the protests that wants the war to end. I really do not believe that the Tamil Tigers have any justification for the methods they are using. A blockade of the Gardiner is little compared to the lives of 50,000. Stop your whining, and support them, it will make this situation end faster. I am glad that the UN is trying to speak to the Tiger, however I do feel that at some point, more direct action will need to be taken. Also, since the Tigers are not a country, but a guerrilla organization, embargoes and trade restrictions won't work nearly as well. I want to say to put UN peacekeepers in to evacuate civilians, but that would be placing those men and women in the crossfire.

 

 

 

Stop the fighting, and get the civilians somewhere safe.[/hide]