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Here we go again. SwiftKit illegal to use


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Edit: I want make this clear. While I strongly disagree with this, it is not my intention to incite a riot or flame war against Jagex. Rioting didn't work the first time, and it won't work this time. I wanted to post this to make players aware of it, simply because so many players use SK. It is important they know how we feel, but we should be able to do that in a respectful in mature way.



RSOF QFC:14-15-786-58916870



Hey all,



To clear up any confusion, 1dolfinsfan is quoting a post made by Mod Hohbein, they are not actually Mod Hohbein themselves.



Sorry to disappoint you but Swift Kit is not allowed.



I realise there has been some confusion over this with some people saying yes its okay to use but Jagex is very firm about this and it is not.



Don't worry I won't be scouring the thread for those who have admitted having it but I highly recommend you remove it as soon as possible while I go and hide your posts.



Thanks.




Now mods are saying they will release an offical statement regarding the issue soon. I know tons of people who use SK and think it's perfectly legal. I guess let anybody you know using it to beware.



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Update (June 4): Another Jmod has responded in the RSOF:



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A Swifkit developer also responded on page 6:



Hi everyone, I'm one of the lead developers for SwiftKit, and I will be happy to tell you all that SwiftKit is 100% legal to use, according to the rules Jagex has set out for third party programs. These "Jmods" are obviously unaware and uneducated as to what SwiftKit is or does, which is a shame when they open their mouth without thinking of the consequences.



SwiftKit uses Internet Explorer, meaning that it's completely undetectable, and downright stupid why it would be illegal. If no "3rd party programs are allowed", then why the hell is there a set of rules governing them? I'm not sure if that RSF thread was posted here, but if you see it it was 31 pages of community members disproving the mods rather harshly.



It's worth saying that in the event SwiftKit (or SwiftSwitch) ever was not allowed to use, we were always contacted beforehand, and allowed to work with Jagex to rectify the problem. We were never contacted, nor aware of any changes in rules.



Don't worry folks, not one (1) person has EVER been banned for using SwiftKit, and no will ever be.


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I just saw this on the forums and came here to post it but i see that you have done this already.

Here is a pic if anyone wants proof.

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Whats the point in it being illegal anyway? It gives like no advantage.

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Whats the point in it being illegal anyway? It gives like no advantage.




It doesn't really matter if it 'cheats' or not. Third party software is still against the rules and they still present a significant security risk.



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Can they even detect if you use it or not? It seems like it would be pretty hard to do..

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Why don't they just take the time to work something out with the devs/Strider?



I'm sure they know damn well it's perfectly fine in terms of security.


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Like hell I'm getting off SK.

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Lolwut.

Lame.

:wall:



Like hell I'm getting off SK.




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Again?

Make up your minds, Jagex... :wall:

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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.
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Whats the point in it being illegal anyway? It gives like no advantage.




It doesn't really matter if it 'cheats' or not. Third party software is still against the rules and they still present a significant security risk.



- Mod Crow -




If no third party software is allowed, does that mean no firefox?
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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.




Quicklinks? High scores barely an inch away? MP3 player? IRC Built in? Calculators? Timers and Stopwatches? Notepad?

No?

Allright.

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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.


I personally like the ease it is to take screen shots, and the highscores without going to another window. It actually is very helpful







And its swiftkit now, just so you know..



" The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest, and which is known in Newspeak as doublethink. Doublethink is basically the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.



– Part II, chapter IX - chapter I of Goldstein's book"


I'm glad someone else here not in Off-Topic has read that book.





Well i've managed to get along perfectly in RS without swiftkit so... whats the big deal about it anyway?




It's just so damn useful is what people love about it

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Well i've managed to get along perfectly in RS without swiftkit so... whats the big deal about it anyway?
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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.




Quicklinks? High scores barely an inch away? MP3 player? IRC Built in? Calculators? Timers and Stopwatches? Notepad?

No?

Allright.


Quicklinks? Download the quicklink add-on to Mozilla Firefox.

Highscores? Who cares what rank you are in a skill, you can still see how far you are from a level in game.

MP3 player? Try iTunes.

IRC? Clan chat.

Calculators? Tip.it.

Timers? Worthless.

Notepad? Your computer comes with that.
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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.




A screenshot taker that dates your picture and crops it for you.



A armory that allows you to see the bonus of whatever items you want to wear.



A timer that lets you know how long you've been playing.



A direct link to the rs forums, homepage and high scores.



Direct links to almost any guide you'd need.



Built in treasure trail coodinator finder.



Roll-over skills which show you level, exp needed for next level and rank.



An item, monster, shop and clan database.



A music player.



And the list could really go on forever. You're a total moron if you think Runescape's browser capabilities match Swiftkit.
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Who cares, I see no benefits to using SS. RS has just about everything SS has now.




Quicklinks? High scores barely an inch away? MP3 player? IRC Built in? Calculators? Timers and Stopwatches? Notepad?

No?

Allright.


Quicklinks? Download the quicklink add-on to Mozilla Firefox.

Highscores? Who cares what rank you are in a skill, you can still see how far you are from a level in game.

MP3 player? Try iTunes.

IRC? Clan chat.

Calculators? Tip.it.

Timers? Worthless.

Notepad? Your computer comes with that.




Highscores - for looking up other people, not yourself :|

MP3 - Some people don't use iTunes

IRC is so much more useful than a CC, posting pics, having more people in it, not having to be on RS at the time of use, and EXP trackers.

Calculators - Its more convenient.

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Even if it's a dumb story, telling it changes other people just the slightest little bit, just as living the story changes me. An infinitesimal change. And that infinitesimal change ripples outward-ever smaller but everlasting. I will get forgotten, but the stories will last. And so we all matter-maybe less than a lot, but always more than none.

-John Green (An Abundance of Katherines)


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Direct links to almost any guide you'd need.


But theres no Tip.it!! There's no Tip.It! [goes into a mental breakdown]



With that said I find swiftkit useful not because of the keypoints that Outsanity metioned, but having an old computer, lately Java and IE7 running together causes lag [bleep]es and process problems, and dont start with firefox. That thing HATES me using Java applications with a passion.

Popoto.~<3





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