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[Yoko Kurama]

And that's why I don't stay up for updates anymore. They hype something up, then fail to launch it on time. Time and time again. #-o

 

You know what is even more frustrating, not only do they hype things up huge, and constantly fail to deliver, they also announce at the ABSOLUTE latest hour that it won't be ready, after I have waited for it the 3rd day in a row. It isn't as if they encountered some new problem 20 minutes ago that disallowed them from releasing this update. They knew just as well earlier today that it wouldn't be released. How about they put a [bleep]ing twitter hint earlier than after the usual time in the morning when updates are released? This is tiresome and disappointing. Jagex can go [bleep] themselves. I am ok with them taking the time to straighten things out occasionally but don't make us wait, be honest. All of this has to do with their inexcusable business model where they work updates AFTER they announce then. These updates should already be ready and the only thing they should be doing is last minute testing. Not [bleep]ing making up half the update the week before it is supposed to be release. So yeah, to all those apologists, it IS their fault for having a [cabbage] business model.

 

Actually they announced it quite early today.

 

It was announced like an hour ago(unless I am mistaken), on the day of the update when people were expecting the update, refreshing constantly. That seems to me to be the absolute latest they could have possibly done. How is that early in any sense of the word? If I am mistaken then ignore this post.

Because it was announced at approximately the very earliest that updates ever come out on a given day. Meaning people really should not have been waiting very long.

 

You know some people actually stayed(I don't anymore), if Jagex had done the responsible thing, they wouldn't have had to stay an additional 2 or so hours waiting for an update when all Jagex was going to do was tell us it isn't ready. Like I said, this should be announced before hand, not at the moment when the update should have been released. That isn't early in the least.

[Sy_Accursed]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

[Den]

Wow, what a company. Deliberately delaying one of the biggest updates that players can't wait for, good way to suck. :thumbdown: Probably working on graphics again. :rolleyes:

 

Some people said exactly what you said about the TT Update, then got disapointed because clues didnt give any useful rewards to them. :P

 

I dont get why some people get so mad over not getting updates early in the week. :???:

[Omali]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

 

That's because the stereotype that Runescape is populated by kids and kidults (adults with the mentality of children) is mainly true for a large portion of those who visit the RSOF and fansites like Tip.It.

[Viv]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

i dont refresh for updates lol and tbh its way earlier today then they usually announce it

 

but im really looking forward to this update and i know that jagex usually release updates around 10-12pm my time

 

and b4 i had done all the quest the first time i didnt really care about updates...but now that im all 99s and dungeoneering goes to 120 and this increases the expirience rates its a pretty important update!

 

but yeh i dont want it to be totally gliched up =P i think maybe they shulda made a post that said "we have planned this update for late in the week as it is a huge chunk of code" so we wouldnt be like monday....tuesday......wenesday....and maybe expect it late if its delayed to next week id be really mad for them telling us it was this week in all post... but it is the year of delays...

[Yoko Kurama]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

 

How is not Jagex's fault for hyping up updates through various means only to people at the last possible moment after they have waited that, "Sorry, not today folks". Seems to me like they are real saddos because how hard could a message a couple ago be? And if you actually read, people did not refresh the page all day. In Northern America, it is NOT 3 PM like it is in the UK, well in some parts anyways. It is usually early morning when the updates come. So people staying up a bit, and checking at this time is completely sensible, it isn't a lack of a common sense. As usual, Jagex apologists appear, apologizing for a [cabbage] business model of procrastination.

 

This isn't about kids moaning or (though some probably did). This is about honesty and consistency. If you need more time, be honest, don't [bleep]ing hype it up, pretend everything is going find and then around the last hour or so, come and tell us that it isn't ready--tell us before.

[Youmu]

Because YOU'RE the impatient one, Zenaku.

 

If Jagex starts rushing out updates just for the delight of players, Jagex will end up just like Sonic Team.

 

But that's a totally different discussion altogether.

[Yoko Kurama]

Because YOU'RE the impatient one, Zenaku.

 

If Jagex starts rushing out updates just for the delight of players, Jagex will end up just like Sonic Team.

 

But that's a totally different discussion altogether.

 

How about you actually ready what I said instead of impatiently replying instead? I said I am *perfectly* fine with them taking extra time for updates, I like a soundly tested update just as much as anyone else. All I said was they should be more honest, and adapt a business model of getting things done before time rather than on time. For instance, they took off BTS for how long? When they decided to put it back on, they should have waited a month, completed the updates for the next month and THEN brought back BTS. That way, all they would have to do is do last minute testing and the month would be ready. What would this accomplish? Basically they would be 1 month ahead of schedule and updates would be more likely complete on time. It is kind of like in school. Some kids worked on their projects as soon as they got them while others put it off for the night before. Who is more likely to get it done? That is what Jagex appears to be doing, working on things at the last minute instead of ahead of time.

[Den]

@Zenaku

 

You are aware that the last possible moment for them to announce a no update today would be in 2 hours and 19 minutes from this post right?

[Aneron]

Sad face about no update today, but as I am a mature and uncomplaining scaper, I have no problems with this. I shall do things in Runescape besides dungeoneering, or maybe even do something that isn't Runescape. I have no desire for Jagex to release an update which they have not finished working on, nor to go continuously out of their way to tell their players 'sorry no update today' at the most convenient time possible for their players, which is not their duty.

[Guthorm]

I would be disappointed...

 

EXCEPT GAMESCON IS TODAY AND THERE ARE GUILD WARS 2 INFORMATION!

 

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[blackeagle4]

I think what needs to be done, is at the start of the month Jagex announces the updates AND everything that will go with them.

 

This would reduce hype and complaints when updates are delayed

 

Also if they put in detail exactly what went wrong with something, which would only be possible if they announced everything in the update, players may be more sympathetic, and thus nerd rage less.

 

what do you guys think?

[BeNiceOk]

but yeh i dont want it to be totally gliched up =P i think maybe they shulda made a post that said "we have planned this update for late in the week as it is a huge chunk of code" so we wouldnt be like monday....tuesday......wenesday....and maybe expect it late if its delayed to next week id be really mad for them telling us it was this week in all post... but it is the year of delays...

 

I think the reason they didn't do that is because even they don't know when an update will be ready. Its more like a work in progress instead of "it should be done in X ammount of hours."

 

If they told people the update would be on Friday every week, and then updated on a Wednesday then people would STILL complain saying they were planning on taking Friday off and now that will be to waste. Then there would be the people who complain and troll about how "Why does Jagex bother saying the update is on Friday if they update in the middle of the week."

 

If they had to hold the update to Friday every week, and the update was ready on Wednesday, then they would have 2 days where the upload team sits around and twiddles their thumbs. And the next weeks update would suffer if it took more than 5 days to prepare for it.

 

In short, it would take more time for the to evaluate a "guess" at when the update would be out, a guess that always changes. Companies like Blizzard just hold an update days if not weeks after it is ready to release it. Do you really want Jagex to sit around doing nothing while an update is ready just so they have have an exact set date for an update to come out? Or can you just patiently wait for them to finish it and release it once it's ready?

[TheAncient]

Jagex is a terrible company.

 

Don't say something about "development takes a long time" because they have been working on this a month, or longer, in advance. Obviously things come up time to time but I don't think this update and the TT update were isolated incidents. There is something systematically wrong with how Jagex approaches projects.

 

Jagex should make it clear exactly what dates they will release an update. If they feel like they can't finish it in time they should just have originally set the date so far back that they'll be sure they can finish the update by then.

[Yoko Kurama]

@Zenaku

 

You are aware that the last possible moment for them to announce a no update today would be in 2 hours and 19 minutes from this post right?

 

I used the term in a figurative manner, not literally the last second or minute. So if an update is announced this month, and even the week before Jagex has a *significant* portion of it undone, I consider that to be working till the last minute so to speak, working week by week instead of ahead which is a horrible model and is of course going to increase the likelihood of missing deadlines.

 

Here is what I think they should do. Scrap the BTS entirely for September, and take the whole month if need be, work on just maintenance and future updates. No need to release any new content. After they are *done* they can put up a BTS for November, and by the time November comes the updates should be ready. If something unfortunate happens then, that is understandable. At least that way they are ahead of schedule.

 

That way ideally in the current month they would be working on programming next month's updates instead of next weeks. So I am all for them taking extra time, I just want some honesty. Ideally these kind of situations shouldn't even be showing up if they didn't work on a week by week basis because they would ideally be done updates or be close to being done them instead of constantly reworking them on the day of...So yeah, it isn't the end of the world but I am disappointed and I do think Jagex should change their business model.

[Omali]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

 

How is not Jagex's fault for hyping up updates through various means only to people at the last possible moment after they have waited that, "Sorry, not today folks". Seems to me like they are real saddos because how hard could a message a couple ago be? And if you actually read, people did not refresh the page all day. In Northern America, it is NOT 3 PM like it is in the UK, well in some parts anyways. It is usually early morning when the updates come. So people staying up a bit, and checking at this time is completely sensible, it isn't a lack of a common sense. As usual, Jagex apologists appear, apologizing for a [cabbage] business model of procrastination.

 

This isn't about kids moaning or (though some probably did). This is about honesty and consistency. If you need more time, be honest, don't [bleep]ing hype it up, pretend everything is going find and then around the last hour or so, come and tell us that it isn't ready--tell us before.

 

The drama level in this thread just shot through the roof.

[Sy_Accursed]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

 

How is not Jagex's fault for hyping up updates through various means only to people at the last possible moment after they have waited that, "Sorry, not today folks". Seems to me like they are real saddos because how hard could a message a couple ago be? And if you actually read, people did not refresh the page all day. In Northern America, it is NOT 3 PM like it is in the UK, well in some parts anyways. It is usually early morning when the updates come. So people staying up a bit, and checking at this time is completely sensible, it isn't a lack of a common sense. As usual, Jagex apologists appear, apologizing for a [cabbage] business model of procrastination.

 

This isn't about kids moaning or (though some probably did). This is about honesty and consistency. If you need more time, be honest, don't [bleep]ing hype it up, pretend everything is going find and then around the last hour or so, come and tell us that it isn't ready--tell us before.

 

 

They haven't hyped anything.

They gave us BTS so we know what updates are this month.

From the fact they normally follow BTS order we know what update is likely to be this week.

 

They have no given a day or time for the update, so waiting for it on a specific day is YOUR doing not jagex's

 

And just because its early hours your time, doesn't change the fact no update today messages come around 1-2pm uk time and game updates pretty much never come before 3-4pm uk time. No matter what timezone you translate that into they are giving fair warning, again its your own fault if u refresh and wait too early. Besides America is 5 - 8 hours behind depending on coast. So you're looking at 5 - 8am for no update notices 7 - 10am for actual game updates. So get up at a reasonable time and you'll either arrive just as the update goes live or the notice will already be up.

[Yoko Kurama]

I like how its apparently jagex's fault that people are saddos with no life who spend all day waiting and refreshing waiting the update to come, especially since Jagex have said time an again there is no set update day. AND they moan about no update today announcements being "late" when they usually pop up around 1 - 2pm Uk time and game updates rarely happen before 3pm uk time so anyone with common sense wouldn't even be refreshing that early in the day.

 

How is not Jagex's fault for hyping up updates through various means only to people at the last possible moment after they have waited that, "Sorry, not today folks". Seems to me like they are real saddos because how hard could a message a couple ago be? And if you actually read, people did not refresh the page all day. In Northern America, it is NOT 3 PM like it is in the UK, well in some parts anyways. It is usually early morning when the updates come. So people staying up a bit, and checking at this time is completely sensible, it isn't a lack of a common sense. As usual, Jagex apologists appear, apologizing for a [cabbage] business model of procrastination.

 

This isn't about kids moaning or (though some probably did). This is about honesty and consistency. If you need more time, be honest, don't [bleep]ing hype it up, pretend everything is going find and then around the last hour or so, come and tell us that it isn't ready--tell us before.

 

The drama level in this thread just shot through the roof.

 

As have the efforts of Tip.it's favorite Jagex Apologists in trolling important discussions with idiocy.

[TheAncient]

I think the problem is Jagex has set up the expectation for release date to be a Monday or Tuesday to be one particular week of a particular month. If they think the update will be late, why don't they just tell us in the twitter hint like Thursday or something? That way people don't have the expectation for it being Monday or Tuesday. I think people don't mind the wait in itself - they're bothered more by the fact that things didn't match expectation.

[Sy_Accursed]

I think the problem is Jagex has set up the expectation for release date to be a Monday or Tuesday to be one particular week of a particular month. If they think the update will be late, why don't they just tell us in the twitter hint like Thursday or something? That way people don't have the expectation for it being Monday or Tuesday. I think people don't mind the wait in itself - they're bothered more by the fact that things didn't match expectation.

 

Again Jagex have always said no set update days.

 

So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex.

[TheAncient]

I think the problem is Jagex has set up the expectation for release date to be a Monday or Tuesday to be one particular week of a particular month. If they think the update will be late, why don't they just tell us in the twitter hint like Thursday or something? That way people don't have the expectation for it being Monday or Tuesday. I think people don't mind the wait in itself - they're bothered more by the fact that things didn't match expectation.

 

Again Jagex have always said no set update days.

 

So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex.

 

Whether or not the expectation is player-generated or Jagex-generated doesn't matter, because either way the expectation is still there and Jagex must deal with it

[ghjkl]

A lot of my friends and I have floors 1-34 done, and cbf dunging anymore because we would have to c1 again, but its pissing me off has I haven't been dunging the past 3 days in anticipation of the update and I don't want to screw my prestige.

[Blutters]

Jagex should make it clear exactly what dates they will release an update. If they feel like they can't finish it in time they should just have originally set the date so far back that they'll be sure they can finish the update by then.

I very much agree with this.

 

Also, the people here sitting up on their self riotous thrones chastising others because they lack the innate ability to accept being danced upon by incompetence piss me off FAR MORE than anyone complaining about the delays.

 

It wasn't always like this... Players aren't used to this.

I can still remember a time when updates came out on Mondays, every week of the month.

There would be some weeks delayed (slightly!) or skipped, but it was fully tolerable because of their impressive record.

 

There will always be people who complain about the update content once it's actually released! This is unavoidable because one can never please everyone. However, by also hyping and delaying an update FOR WHATEVER REASON, they're adding another large glob of complaint that wasn't there before.

[Sy_Accursed]

I think the problem is Jagex has set up the expectation for release date to be a Monday or Tuesday to be one particular week of a particular month. If they think the update will be late, why don't they just tell us in the twitter hint like Thursday or something? That way people don't have the expectation for it being Monday or Tuesday. I think people don't mind the wait in itself - they're bothered more by the fact that things didn't match expectation.

 

Again Jagex have always said no set update days.

 

So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex.

 

Whether or not the expectation is player-generated or Jagex-generated doesn't matter, because either way the expectation is still there and Jagex must deal with it

 

Not really. You can't blame the company for following their policy of no set update day just because players create their own expectations.

That'd be like trying to sue a supermarket because you tried to eat a chicken (bought there) without cooking it. Sure they sold you the raw chicken, but they didn't say you can eat this chicken as is so its not their fault you did so.

With Rs Sure Jagex have told us there will be an update this week, but they haven't told us a day or time so it isn't their fault or problem if you create you own expectation of when it will be

[TheAncient]

I think the problem is Jagex has set up the expectation for release date to be a Monday or Tuesday to be one particular week of a particular month. If they think the update will be late, why don't they just tell us in the twitter hint like Thursday or something? That way people don't have the expectation for it being Monday or Tuesday. I think people don't mind the wait in itself - they're bothered more by the fact that things didn't match expectation.

 

Again Jagex have always said no set update days.

 

So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex.

 

Whether or not the expectation is player-generated or Jagex-generated doesn't matter, because either way the expectation is still there and Jagex must deal with it

 

Not really. You can't blame the company for following their policy of no set update day just because players create their own expectations.

That'd be like trying to sue a supermarket because you tried to eat a chicken (bought there) without cooking it. Sure they sold you the raw chicken, but they didn't say you can eat this chicken as is so its not their fault you did so.

With Rs Sure Jagex have told us there will be an update this week, but they haven't told us a day or time so it isn't their fault or problem if you create you own expectation of when it will be

 

Yes and I agree with you. But from the company's point of view, their ultimate goal is to keep the customer happy, even when the customer is in your eyes being unreasonable.