Thai_tong Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 After noticing that suomi and others open effigies with herb and con I decided to post this I don't use perfect rates in this because it wasn't made for being used here. Don't ask why I haven't shown agil/crafting but that's a no brainer anyway :P Herblore v Hunter[hide]30k would save 30/750 hours of herblore training or 30/250 hours huntingIt would also save 460k on herblore costs.Using effigies on hunter is better if30/250 > 30/750 + 460/VV > 5750k[/hide] Thieving v construction[hide]30k would save 30/750 hours of construction training or 30/200 hours thievingIt would also save 450k on construction costs.Using effigies on thieving is better if30/200 > 30/750 + 450/VV > 4090k[/hide] Smithing v mining[hide]30k mining saves 30/95 hours mining. 30K mining also gives 20k smithing xp.Because of this, by using the effigy on smithing you are effectively saving yourself 50k smithing xp (50/250 hours) and 380k gp. If investigating with mining is better then30/95 > 50/250 + 380/VV > 3300k[/hide] Farming v fishing[hide]A typical farm run of 6 palm, 5 magic and 1 calquat tree gives 143k xp in 8 minutes giving it an xp rate of 1060k. 16.9gp/xp30 farming xp saves 30/1060 hours and 510k gp30k fishing xp gives 5k agility so 30k free fishing xp saves 30/70 – 5/70Using effigies on fishing is better if 30/70 – 5/70 > 30/1060 + 510/VV > 1550k[/hide] Cooking v Firemaking[hide](cooking wines and firemaking magic logs)Firemaking is slower and more expensive so there is no reason to open effigies with cooking.[/hide] Fletching v Woodcutting[hide](broad arrows and teaks)30k would save 30/700 hours of fletching or 30/110 hours woodcutting but the loss of 14k firemaking xp reduces time saved by 14/450 and an extra 60k needs to be spent on magic logsIt would also save 280k on fletching costs.Using effigies on woodcutting is better if30/110 – 14/450 – 60/V > 30/700 + 280/VV > 1700k[/hide] Runecrafting v Summoning[hide]If you use lamps on summoning you will still be using the same amount of blue and crim charms but fewer green charms are used. Therefore I will be using the green charm method for this comparison.30k xp saves 30/40 hours runecrafting or 30/460 hours summoning and 430k gp. Profit from zmi is too small to countIf using effigies on runecrafting is better then30/40 > 30/460 + 430/VV > 630k[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 After noticing that suomi and others open effigies with herb and con I decided to post this I don't use perfect rates in this because it wasn't made for being used here. Don't ask why I haven't shown agil/crafting but that's a no brainer anyway :P Herblore v Hunter[hide]30k would save 30/750 hours of herblore training or 30/250 hours huntingIt would also save 460k on herblore costs.Using effigies on hunter is better if30/250 > 30/750 + 460/VV > 5750k[/hide] Thieving v construction[hide]30k would save 30/750 hours of construction training or 30/200 hours thievingIt would also save 450k on construction costs.Using effigies on thieving is better if30/200 > 30/750 + 450/VV > 4090k[/hide] Smithing v mining[hide]30k mining saves 30/95 hours mining. 30K mining also gives 20k smithing xp.Because of this, by using the effigy on smithing you are effectively saving yourself 50k smithing xp (50/250 hours) and 380k gp. If investigating with mining is better then30/95 > 50/250 + 380/VV > 3300k[/hide] Farming v fishing[hide]A typical farm run of 6 palm, 5 magic and 1 calquat tree gives 143k xp in 8 minutes giving it an xp rate of 1060k. 16.9gp/xp30 farming xp saves 30/1060 hours and 510k gp30k fishing xp gives 5k agility so 30k free fishing xp saves 30/70 5/70Using effigies on fishing is better if 30/70 5/70 > 30/1060 + 510/VV > 1550k[/hide] Cooking v Firemaking[hide](cooking wines and firemaking magic logs)Firemaking is slower and more expensive so there is no reason to open effigies with cooking.[/hide] Fletching v Woodcutting[hide](broad arrows and teaks)30k would save 30/700 hours of fletching or 30/110 hours woodcutting but the loss of 14k firemaking xp reduces time saved by 14/450 and an extra 60k needs to be spent on magic logsIt would also save 280k on fletching costs.Using effigies on woodcutting is better if30/110 14/450 60/V > 30/700 + 280/VV > 1700k[/hide] Runecrafting v Summoning[hide]If you use lamps on summoning you will still be using the same amount of blue and crim charms but fewer green charms are used. Therefore I will be using the green charm method for this comparison.30k xp saves 30/40 hours runecrafting or 30/460 hours summoning and 430k gp. Profit from zmi is too small to countIf using effigies on runecrafting is better then30/40 > 30/460 + 430/VV > 630k[/hide]hmm smith thing is interesting... fish/farm i go between...i hate farming lol....so 30k farm is like 30/what 200k a day? so i think of it in terms of daily exp :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Is there really a need to calculate out woodcutting vs fletching? Using effigies on fletching is completely stupid no matter how much you value your time at (just like firemaking vs cooking). You could at least fletch magic longbows and not lose money instead of spending more time woodcutting at 140k xp/h. I believe stringing magic longbows is around 220k xp/h? http://www.crystalmathlabs.com/tracker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existent Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Is there really a need to calculate out woodcutting vs fletching? Using effigies on fletching is completely stupid no matter how much you value your time at (just like firemaking vs cooking). You could at least fletch magic longbows and not lose money instead of spending more time woodcutting at 140k xp/h. I believe stringing magic longbows is around 220k xp/h?I just tried it out and it's about 2,520 strung/h or 230k xp/hr Profit was 25 gp/ea or 63k gp/h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 ^ Lol that cancels out the 60k saved on magic logs, goodfight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 NVM, was wrong edit: don't wanna "waste" this post, so gonna comment on your thieving xp rate: Why only 200k thief xp per hour? A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst_Gem Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Thai - all good except the last one. Which seems to claim that the rc xp rate is 40k per hour? hmm plus didnt notice the above. Although the 320k thief xp that Thai usually uses is physically impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 What happened to Tezz? http://runetracker.org/track-tezz,0,1 http://www.crystalmathlabs.com/tracker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climate Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 It appears he has flatlined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 15m hunt xp in a week is flatline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climate Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 If you looked at the graph, you'd see what I meant. Was a joke anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 15m hunt xp in a week is flatline? Yeah? Hunter is 290k xp/h. That's only 50-55 hours http://www.crystalmathlabs.com/tracker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Lower your expectations for people lol. It's summer basically and they're only human. 50-55 hours is more than a full work week btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climate Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 It looks like he hasn't been on for 2 days, so that's still 10 hours of hunt a day for when he was playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Lower your expectations for people lol. It's summer basically and they're only human. 50-55 hours is more than a full work week btw. You obviously don't know Tezz. Wait, neither do I. My frined has told me Tezz has been playing 16 hours a day for the last few years. When somebody like that suddenly stops gaining xp... You're making it sound like I think Tezz is terrible for only having a 15m hunter week or something. Originally I was just pointing out Tezz's gains stop. Idk what's your problem with that http://www.crystalmathlabs.com/tracker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 16 hours a day for 2 years is unrealistic. As it is the 51 hours he did is over 7 hours a day at max capacity. Props for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climate Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 It's not the overall xp he's gained , it's the fact he hasn't gained ANY at all the past two days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Breaks are healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 16 hours a day for 2 years is unrealistic. As it is the 51 hours he did is over 7 hours a day at max capacity. Props for that. Tell that to Drumgun. I don't understand what you mean by "As it is the 51 hours he did is over 7 hours a day at max capacity. Props for that."?? http://www.crystalmathlabs.com/tracker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climate Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Breaks are healthy Not saying they aren't lol, just doesn't seem like something normal for him judging by what Foot said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopenope Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 All I'm saying is 15m xp in a week at 290k xp/h is over 7 hours a day while staying at max efficiency. Climate noted it was only 5 days so thats about 10 hours a day at max efficiency. I said props for that cuz it's more than I'll ever hunt. I hate hunter. But yea the last 2 days I'm sure he's doing something more interesting than runescape and I don't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Thai - all good except the last one. Which seems to claim that the rc xp rate is 40k per hour? hmm plus didnt notice the above. Although the 320k thief xp that Thai usually uses is physically impossible.As I said before I am not using perfect rates because it wasn't intended to be used here.Also it isn't for 99 runecrafters. More like 80-91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe he's a normal person and went on vacation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Thats what laptops are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterbound Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I heard Tezz is in Africa catching jadinkos IRL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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