Grogthurk Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 It was more less if I get lucky off of a clue. You know, gotta stay hopeful =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlippsx Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 It was a good run red phat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 It was a good run red phat. I guess you'll make a bit more GP immediately off those claws and AGS but other than that they will crash hard soon. Terrible trade IMO because partyhats can be used as leverage in a lot of trades in the future. But then again you may want that AGS more than a paper hat. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlippsx Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I see it this way. Phats are sure to crash again. I rather take a nice payout now then have to risk getting stuck with a massive piece of junk. I've made a good ~20-30mil off it rising already and those 5 weapons will net me another 20mil or so. I'm content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britonlongbow Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Did I get lucky or is this the start of another crash (bought about 3 minutes after I offered.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Did I get lucky or is this the start of another crash (bought about 3 minutes after I offered.) Crashing. Lots of sellers on the RSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britonlongbow Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Did I get lucky or is this the start of another crash (bought about 3 minutes after I offered.) Crashing. Lots of sellers on the RSB. That's what I thought but since I'm gonna use this for awhile I'm ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Did I get lucky or is this the start of another crash (bought about 3 minutes after I offered.) Crashing. Lots of sellers on the RSB. Or it could continue its slowly rise. I honestly don't think the ags is going to permanently crash. The general trend WILL be upwards till the 75k trick gets nerfed. Anyways, I want an arcane, but I'm at 86m(excluding bandos tassets). :| My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Behold my foresight! Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky1_2007 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 check out what i got back ;) this time ive got my trusty AGS :) retired 12-31-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 check out what i got back ;) this time ive got my trusty AGS :) Nice (again)! Lemme borrow legs for a short time later? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. When do you think they will even out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whocares Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. When do you think they will even out? They won't. For the last 7 years they've always been going up for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. When do you think they will even out? They won't. For the last 7 years they've always been going up for the most part. Ok, and i just looked at some of the graphs and they perty much all fell during march and i looked at updates and non of them seemed to have caused it what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. When do you think they will even out? They won't. For the last 7 years they've always been going up for the most part. Ok, and i just looked at some of the graphs and they perty much all fell during march and i looked at updates and non of them seemed to have caused it what happened? After the removal of staking and pking many players quit and when they did they sold off all their partyhats causing a massive increase in supply and a decrease in demand of partyhats to stake causing them to fall. They were frozen in the GE from then on because the buy amount for an update was too large. Jagex then manually adjusted partyhat prices and changed the limits along with the drop rise margin to 1% each update. So they did a slow fall(with a few buyouts inbetween) until 3rd age started to crash and then merchants needed a new item. It was then that they got bought out and 3rd age dumped. This is what you see today and that was a crash course in p hat history after the grand exchange. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 O i hope jagex makes a really bad pvp update and makes a bunch of people quit lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punitive_D Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 O i hope jagex makes a really bad pvp update and makes a bunch of people quit lol. Don't worry -- they'll dip again eventually. But if you want one to keep, you might as well go ahead and buy it -- you won't be sorry in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pure34 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 O i hope jagex makes a really bad pvp update and makes a bunch of people quit lol. Don't worry -- they'll dip again eventually. But if you want one to keep, you might as well go ahead and buy it -- you won't be sorry in the long run. 2 reasons prices drop: - Someone gets back in the game after a period and sells them (extra demand) - People start to sell them, A LOT OF THEM! 3 reasons prices rise: - More people getting rich due to more people reaching higher levels, causing extra demand. - Inflation causing price risings - The ever increase of ways to make money. - More players entering the game Reason for prices to drop are incidental. Reasons for prices to rise are long-term and forever to be there. So as an investment, they are worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. I'll give you a blue partyhat(well, transfer enough money to you) if partyhats never crash again. Not crashing? everything crashes. EVERYTHING. Because, funnily enough, crashing makes money, and money is what people are after. Partyhats, as a jagex'es genius plan, are a very bad investment- top merchants could make much more than the louzy 0.5% percent by trading other items, and thus partyhats are bound to crash, but go around in very large circles. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. I'll give you a blue partyhat(well, transfer enough money to you) if partyhats never crash again. Not crashing? everything crashes. EVERYTHING. Because, funnily enough, crashing makes money, and money is what people are after. Partyhats, as a jagex'es genius plan, are a very bad investment- top merchants could make much more than the louzy 0.5% percent by trading other items, and thus partyhats are bound to crash, but go around in very large circles. They won't crash and be terrible junk like they were after the GE was released and what not. They will drop after they start to stablize but they will forever be an item to hold GP because of the 2.147B limit which a lot of merchants have already. Also the percent per update is 1% not .5. Your right that everything will go down but whether it crashs hard is a totally different thing. Hard crashs would be like 3rd age which partyhats won't do. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. I'll give you a blue partyhat(well, transfer enough money to you) if partyhats never crash again. Not crashing? everything crashes. EVERYTHING. Because, funnily enough, crashing makes money, and money is what people are after. Partyhats, as a jagex'es genius plan, are a very bad investment- top merchants could make much more than the louzy 0.5% percent by trading other items, and thus partyhats are bound to crash, but go around in very large circles. They won't crash and be terrible junk like they were after the GE was released and what not. They will drop after they start to stablize but they will forever be an item to hold GP because of the 2.147B limit which a lot of merchants have already. Also the percent per update is 1% not .5. Your right that everything will go down but whether it crashs hard is a totally different thing. Hard crashs would be like 3rd age which partyhats won't do. Partyhat prices do not update every day, so the 0.5% is an average of change for all of them. And yes- with 1% price changes, it's hard for them to become really terrible junk, because, lets face it, losing 1% a day is much more convenient than losing 5%. As an item to hold money in? there are much better items for those purposes that can be transfered into money more conveniently at all times(partyhats are not spots of money- they either are bought out or junk, both conditions meaning no fast money). For the whole, considering any item that has been bought out is bound to crash, they will never be stable(stable as in atleast 70% controlled by people who do not merchant). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Does any one think that phats will crash anytime soon or rise forever? They will keep rising until the demand starts to go down and people start to sell because the price got high enough. They won't crash though, this time they'll remain the top money holding item in the game like they used to me. I'll give you a blue partyhat(well, transfer enough money to you) if partyhats never crash again. Not crashing? everything crashes. EVERYTHING. Because, funnily enough, crashing makes money, and money is what people are after. Partyhats, as a jagex'es genius plan, are a very bad investment- top merchants could make much more than the louzy 0.5% percent by trading other items, and thus partyhats are bound to crash, but go around in very large circles. They won't crash and be terrible junk like they were after the GE was released and what not. They will drop after they start to stablize but they will forever be an item to hold GP because of the 2.147B limit which a lot of merchants have already. Also the percent per update is 1% not .5. Your right that everything will go down but whether it crashs hard is a totally different thing. Hard crashs would be like 3rd age which partyhats won't do. Partyhat prices do not update every day, so the 0.5% is an average of change for all of them. And yes- with 1% price changes, it's hard for them to become really terrible junk, because, lets face it, losing 1% a day is much more convenient than losing 5%. As an item to hold money in? there are much better items for those purposes that can be transfered into money more conveniently at all times(partyhats are not spots of money- they either are bought out or junk, both conditions meaning no fast money). For the whole, considering any item that has been bought out is bound to crash, they will never be stable(stable as in atleast 70% controlled by people who do not merchant). Where do you get your definition of stable? I always thought stable means the price will stay around the same price with some natural drops and rises like most armour and weapons do. Yes they can be stable and they are approaching that stage right now. I'd like to know of this magical item that can be bought and sold for the amount you payed for it. Partyhats have potential for long term profit that's why they are so good and that's why merchants hold onto them in their banks. Profit over time and holding 2B+=epic win. I don't see partyhats becoming big junk, they may fall but the demand from normal players will always be there because they are a frequent goal item. Only time will tell however ;) Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punitive_D Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Btw, third age full helms have not crashed hard. It seems they have found a fairly stable price. They're both buyable and sellable in the GE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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