September 3, 201015 yr http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11088841 This arises the question. When it is OK to kill someone?
September 3, 201015 yr Sounds like self-defense to be honest. [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread.
September 3, 201015 yr Not really a pedophile if the boy was 17. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
September 3, 201015 yr i think no-one has the right to take someone elses life only his own life 99 Firemaking 30-5-2010 | 99 Fletching 13-7-2014 TET-AU member:6-10-2010 - 21-10-2011
September 3, 201015 yr I KNEW IT! MUSLIMS! As with most cases, with a genuine fear that your life is in danger, and if you have tried to escape and there is obviously no way you can, then usually you will be cleared. And I'm not sure what the age of consent is in UK, but it's 18 over here, which would still make it pedophilia, or at the very most, attempted rape. I have all the 99s, and have been playing since 2001. Comped 4/30/15 My Araxxi Kills: 459::Araxxi Drops(KC):Araxxi Hilts: 4x Eye (14/126/149/459), Web - (100) Fang (193) Araxxi Legs Completed: 5 ---Top (69/206/234/292/361), Middle (163/176/278/343/395), Bottom (135/256/350/359/397)Boss Pets: Supreme - 848 KCIf you play Xbox One - Add me! GT: Urtehnoes - Currently on a Destiny binge
September 3, 201015 yr I KNEW IT! MUSLIMS! As with most cases, with a genuine fear that your life is in danger, and if you have tried to escape and there is obviously no way you can, then usually you will be cleared. And I'm not sure what the age of consent is in UK, but it's 18 over here, which would still make it pedophilia, or at the very most, attempted rape.Statutory rape. People in glass houses should shower in the basement.
September 3, 201015 yr If someone poses a legitimate and present threat to cause you or someone nearby serious harm, you have the right to kill them. Nothing much lost. Get back here so I can rub your butt.
September 3, 201015 yr MUSLIMS AGAIN. LETS INVADE THEIR COUNTRY![/bush]Sounds like self defense to me, he would kill him if he had refused the rape. [hide]Felix, je moeder.Je moeder felixJe vader, felix.Felix, je oma.Felix, je ongelofelijk gave pwnaze avatar B)Felix, je moeder.[/hide]
September 3, 201015 yr UK is 16. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
September 3, 201015 yr i think no-one has the right to take someone elses life only his own life If a guys trying to kill me, I think I have the right to take his life, imo. Also, a few crimes deserve death - for an extreme example, how about Hitler or Stalin. Thing that gets me, it doesn't appear as though there is evidence to support the boy's claim. If it's true, I agree with what he did - but I think they need more then hear-say, which from how I understood the article, that's all there is. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue.
September 3, 201015 yr Natural Selection. Kill off the stupid ones. But this is a case of self defense... "Let your anger be as a monkey in a piñata... hiding amongst the candy... hoping the kids don't break through with the stick." - Master Tang
September 3, 201015 yr i think no-one has the right to take someone elses life only his own life If a guys trying to kill me, I think I have the right to take his life, imo. Also, a few crimes deserve death - for an extreme example, how about Hitler or Stalin. Thing that gets me, it doesn't appear as though there is evidence to support the boy's claim. If it's true, I agree with what he did - but I think they need more then hear-say, which from how I understood the article, that's all there is. Do you really think that the most appropriate punishment for a brutal dictator is death? I'd make them watch their creation fall. They should have done that to Saddam Hussein. After all, Adolf Hitler took his own life, when he saw the 3rd Reich was going to fall, it was an easy and virtually painless way out of the whole situation. If you destroy a person and their ideas in front of them, they will beg for death, as they fear far worse. For the OP, I think self defence is pretty much the only justified situation where one person causes the death of another. EDIT: On reflection, that was probably my darkest post ever. ~ W ~
September 4, 201015 yr Death and suffering is a part of our culture, and we all contribute to it. Right and wrong are [cabbage] ideas, and aren't universal anyway.
September 4, 201015 yr The way the title was wrote made me think it was a 12 year old boy or something, not a 17 year old who is a year away from legally being an adult. Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.
September 4, 201015 yr If it was a pedo, good riddance. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé
September 4, 201015 yr Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.Why was it unnecessary, though? If he ran away the pedohpile would just find him and punish him in some way. Going to the cops would just take too long and too inefficient. The boy had his own evidence, there was no need to bring it to bureaucratic court to be solved. +1 to Joe's post. :thumbup: "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is."
September 4, 201015 yr Molesting a 17 year old sure is pedophilia, especially when the definition applies only to pre-pubescents. :roll: Of course, if it was Justin Beiber that was about to be raped, then sure, it's pedophilia. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on.
September 4, 201015 yr Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.Why was it unnecessary, though? If he ran away the pedohpile would just find him and punish him in some way. Going to the cops would just take too long and too inefficient. The boy had his own evidence, there was no need to bring it to bureaucratic court to be solved. +1 to Joe's post. :thumbup: Because we can't just let people going around doing their own vigilante justice. There is no way to tell if the guy actually wanted to rape him or not and without any evidence you are just relying on the word of some guy.
September 4, 201015 yr i think no-one has the right to take someone elses life only his own life If a guys trying to kill me, I think I have the right to take his life, imo. Also, a few crimes deserve death - for an extreme example, how about Hitler or Stalin. Thing that gets me, it doesn't appear as though there is evidence to support the boy's claim. If it's true, I agree with what he did - but I think they need more then hear-say, which from how I understood the article, that's all there is.i think death is too soft of a punishment for a crime like taking another one's life :thumbdown: 99 Firemaking 30-5-2010 | 99 Fletching 13-7-2014 TET-AU member:6-10-2010 - 21-10-2011
September 4, 201015 yr If someone poses a legitimate and present threat to cause you or someone nearby serious harm, you have the right to kill them. Nothing much lost. this
September 4, 201015 yr Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.Why was it unnecessary, though? If he ran away the pedohpile would just find him and punish him in some way. Going to the cops would just take too long and too inefficient. The boy had his own evidence, there was no need to bring it to bureaucratic court to be solved. +1 to Joe's post. :thumbup: Because we can't just let people going around doing their own vigilante justice. There is no way to tell if the guy actually wanted to rape him or not and without any evidence you are just relying on the word of some guy.Yea well, if you feel that you are in danger you have the right to use self-defense. Whether the justice system feels what you do is right or wrong is another story. Self-survival is more important than the survival of someone trying to hurt you. But I see what you mean, we don't know if what the defendant said is true. 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010
September 4, 201015 yr Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.Why was it unnecessary, though? If he ran away the pedohpile would just find him and punish him in some way. Going to the cops would just take too long and too inefficient. The boy had his own evidence, there was no need to bring it to bureaucratic court to be solved. +1 to Joe's post. :thumbup: Because we can't just let people going around doing their own vigilante justice. There is no way to tell if the guy actually wanted to rape him or not and without any evidence you are just relying on the word of some guy.Yea well, if you feel that you are in danger you have the right to use self-defense. Whether the justice system feels what you did is right or wrong is another story. Self-survival is more important than the survival of someone trying to hurt you. But I see what you mean, we don't know if what the defendant said is true. yeah that's my entire point. Self defense, in reason, is perfectly acceptable. If you are afraid for your own life and the only way out is to kill them, do it. However There is nothing (at least that the article states) that made me think this man could have killed the kid. If it was a 12 year old, sure, but a 17 year old? I think he could handle himself without having to kill someone.
September 4, 201015 yr Too much speculation too I think. Of course it's kind of hard to make a judgement call on something that didn't actually happen. You would think he would have been able to just shove away or hit the man or something and run, killing seems pretty unnecessary.Why was it unnecessary, though? If he ran away the pedohpile would just find him and punish him in some way. Going to the cops would just take too long and too inefficient. The boy had his own evidence, there was no need to bring it to bureaucratic court to be solved. +1 to Joe's post. :thumbup: Because we can't just let people going around doing their own vigilante justice. There is no way to tell if the guy actually wanted to rape him or not and without any evidence you are just relying on the word of some guy.Yea well, if you feel that you are in danger you have the right to use self-defense. Whether the justice system feels what you did is right or wrong is another story. Self-survival is more important than the survival of someone trying to hurt you. But I see what you mean, we don't know if what the defendant said is true. yeah that's my entire point. Self defense, in reason, is perfectly acceptable. If you are afraid for your own life and the only way out is to kill them, do it. However There is nothing (at least that the article states) that made me think this man could have killed the kid. If it was a 12 year old, sure, but a 17 year old? I think he could handle himself without having to kill someone.Maybe, but its hard to think rationally when you feel like you are in danger. 99 Hunter - November 1st, 200899 Cooking -July 22nd, 200999 Firemaking - July 29th, 201099 Fletching - December 30th, 2010
September 4, 201015 yr The guy went there armed "in case something happened" and admitted to that fact in an interview. IMO that's premeditation.He should have been done for manslaughter at the very least based on the claim he wasn't going to use it unless something happened.I'd see it as self defence if he had knifed the victim with something from the victims home. Not something he brought in with him.
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