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The most recent Abortion topic I found was at least 5 months old, so I'm making a new thread on this.

To start off, I'm nor Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, as I'm undecided on what my views on Abortion should be. Abortion is such a big subject.

Firstly, I'll point out that there's some very extremist anti-abortion activists that do some very stupid things. It's absolutely illogical to try and justify the murder of doctors because they're perceived as 'the killers of the unborn'.

Some issues to address:

Some questions
If you are Pro-Life, would rape/incest count as a exception? If not, why?
Does an unborn fetus have a right to life?
Under what circumstances would it be okay to abort, and where do you draw the line?

Oh, one last thing, don't get too worked up during the debate, I know this is a fragile topic, please keep this appropriate.

Discuss!

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Abortion is ok if the person who does it thinks it is the right thing to do and isn't morally against it.

Personally, if I got somebody pregnant, it would depend on the situation on what I think she should do. Abortion would not be something that I would completely rule out.
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Noooo! Not another abortion thread! There are so many of these on so many forums... I agree it's a big (and obviously very controversial) subject, but the fact is: it doesn't matter that much. It's all morals, which are man-made. It's all up to the person, it should be allowed everywhere, because everyone should be allowed to make their own decisions. People who get angry because someone ELSE had an abortion are stupid. It's not their baby. You could say the fetus should also have freedom, but no, it shouldn't. It hasn't learned anything yet. Since morals are man-made, the fetus does not deserve it's own ''decision''.

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[bleep]ing again ?

Seems to me that there's one every week hidden in a thread regardless whether or not the topic title suggests. Last one I remember was this

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I think it's wrong to deny anyone a life whether the child was intentional or not.
If you don't want it, someone else will.
There's no reason to kill it to prevent the pain.
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I think it's wrong to deny anyone a life whether the child was intentional or not.
If you don't want it, someone else will.
There's no reason to kill it to prevent the pain.


What about a girl getting raped? Or that carrying the term will cause detrimental health effects to the mother? There are so many scenarios where an abortion may actually be necessary...

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The fetus is not aware of what's happening. The mother is. It's the mother's decision.
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It should be legal if the baby has or will cause: maternal life, health, mental health, rape, and/or fetal defects
If the mum does not want it there is a thing called adoption.
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The mother's call.
If not for that end my opinions are probably closer to pro-life. Unborn have the right to life and all that blah blah blah you know that stuff already. But it's stupid for a bunch of males to make laws that force that issue. We don't have to deal with pregnancy at nearly the same level.

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I think all abortion is okay, the child has not made any significant feeling and love before been birth.

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It should be legal if the baby has or will cause: maternal life, health, mental health, rape, and/or fetal defects
If the mum does not want it there is a thing called adoption.


Because adoption is such a perfect system and kids who are adopted always get put into loving families right away.



I'm pro choice and that is all I'm really going to say on the matter. Debating about abortion is like pulling teeth.

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If the mum does not want it there is a thing called adoption.

Adoption is not some magical solution to this problem. It's a whole other issue on its own, and the mother still has to deal with the full pregnancy.
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I'm personally against abortion, but I think that the parents should have a choice in the matter. So technically I am pro-choice, but honestly every time I've said that I've been attacked for it even though I disagree with it and if it were up to me I wouldn't want the abortion.

There are situations where I believe it's acceptable however.

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Hate it when people do it, it's the same concept as murder. If you don't want to take care of the baby, someone else will. If it happened through rape or something, now you know life's a [bleep], deal with it.

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Hate it when people do it, it's the same concept as murder. If you don't want to take care of the baby, someone else will. If it happened through rape or something, now you know life's a [bleep], deal with it.


It's no worse than killing an animal.

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If it happened through rape or something, now you know life's a [bleep], deal with it.


Uhhhh.

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I think everyone already knows my beliefs on the topic so I won't go into them; since this thread gets rehashed every few months...

However, I don't see how someone who calls themselves pro-life can be supportive of abortion in the case of rape or incest. A life is a life, regardless of the circumstances surround its creation.

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I'm pro-choice. It's the environment that makes the person, and the actions that define him or her. There isn't really much more to be said here, as the question depends almost entirely on opinions and beliefs, and less on facts.

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Hate it when people do it, it's the same concept as murder. If you don't want to take care of the baby, someone else will. If it happened through rape or something, now you know life's a [bleep], deal with it.


Wow.

"Got raped? Deal with it, life sucks."

People like this make me speechless.

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Hate it when people do it, it's the same concept as murder. If you don't want to take care of the baby, someone else will. If it happened through rape or something, now you know life's a [bleep], deal with it.


Wow.

"Got raped? Deal with it, life sucks."

People like this make me speechless.


Or just abort the thing.




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