Godswords- Outdated?

[TheAncient]

wouldn't killing the person who's doing the most damage to you save you more HP then using a spec that restores 300lp if you're lucky?

 

i'm talking about 1v1 situations, and sgs is only slightly less accurate than claws in pvp and can still hit ~700

 

and it's not just about saving hp. when i'm at 200-300 hp i desperately need a heal, but when i'm at 700+ i don't really care and can afford to mess around. in other words, healing 200 hp at 200 hp left is worth much much more than preventing even like... 700 damage over time at 700 hp

[SirIzenhime]

700 in a pvp situation....? You do realize the SGS spec is only boosted accuracy...not str, right?

I still feel quickly killing your opponent from 600+ lp is better then healing 200lp, but that's just me i guess

[TheAncient]

700 in a pvp situation....? You do realize the SGS spec is only boosted accuracy...not str, right?

I still feel quickly killing your opponent from 600+ lp is better then healing 200lp, but that's just me i guess

 

SGS spec slightly boosts strength too. back in the day i hit 620 with SGS when my normal max was around 560

 

and depends - when your goal is ultimately a KDR of like 20:1 (which i aim for), one opponent means nothing

 

anyway most of this doesn't apply to the average scaper

[stormveritas]

I think it's pretty established that chaotics are better, but I don't care. My SGS is grossly impractical and overvalued and I don't care because I love it and its pretty and it got me to 99 slayer.

[J35u5_M4]

I'm starting to think Korasi's Sword > AGS

[Obtaurian]

Irregardless (fun fact: 'irregardless' is just a weird way to say 'regardless'; they have the same exact meaning) of its usefulness, I've always wanted a SGS, so I'd probably buy one should I ever find myself with an extra 50M.

[Bladewing]

fun fact: irregardless is not a word

 

just sayin'

[Obtaurian]

fun fact: irregardless is not a word

 

just sayin'

 

This is technically the truth. :thumbup: Makes it even more fun to use.

[Assume Nothing]

EEE and Soulsplit replaces the usages of Sgs. Ice Barrage has always replaced Zgs (unless at Zilyana, where you'd be better off with claws anyway), and Claws have practically replaced Ags.

 

Although, the niche uses of Bgs and Ags is still strong, with Ags being a good primary weapon in PvP that also can spec low 800's, and Bgs is still the best defence lowering weapon at Corporeal Beast, not accounting for Swh (degradable, very costly).

 

Hmm, Godswords are so 2007. They never were the best in the first place, whips has always been better in terms of Dps

[Troacctid]

with Ags being a good primary weapon in PvP that also can spec low 800's

I'd guess Korasi's Sword has probably usurped that title now.

[Assume Nothing]

with Ags being a good primary weapon in PvP that also can spec low 800's

I'd guess Korasi's Sword has probably usurped that title now.

 

Not really, considering Korasi Sword is basically a Dragon Scimitar with a decent special attack. Oh, and the special attack requires 60% of the special attack bar, which means you got to wait between specials, whereas Ags can have two specials in a row.

[SirIzenhime]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

[Ambler]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

[Assume Nothing]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

 

All's fine and well until you consider that you can't use Turmoil and Leeches at the same time

[Quyneax]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

I don't think it's 50-150% of your max, as I've hit 50 and lower with the spec, but also 529. You just get a 50-150% bonus on a normal hit.

[Assume Nothing]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

I don't think it's 50-150% of your max, as I've hit 50 and lower with the spec, but also 529. You just get a 50-150% bonus on a normal hit.

 

There is two different special attacks, one for Multi Combat areas, and one for Single Combat areas. 50%-150% only applies to single.

[Quyneax]

Err, what do you mean? The damage multiplier works in multi, too afaik.

[Randox]

The Godswords only ever had niche uses anyways. Mostly pvp, though the ZGS found some love by people in one of the GWD boss rooms, and the SGS has uses for slayer. However in training the whip and SS still reign supreme for DPS in most pvm situations of all the non degrading weapons (ZS too but its controlled), and that hasn't changed. We will probably see chaotic used for general training now, but the whip and SS that will be outdated there, since the GS's were never king of training anyways. Just big hits.

[BeNiceOk]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

I don't think it's 50-150% of your max, as I've hit 50 and lower with the spec, but also 529. You just get a 50-150% bonus on a normal hit.

There is two different special attacks, one for Multi Combat areas, and one for Single Combat areas. 50%-150% only applies to single.

 

I've been doing quite a bit of testing on the special. I think I have most of the way it works figured out now.

 

- The special is a 100% magic attack. It makes TD's switch to magic protection prayer and gives magic xp when used.

- The special ignores defense and accuracy and simply rolls a hit. The accuracy does not effect your strength on the weapon, so you can still hit low hits. The sword then multiplies your damage roll by 50% to 150%.

- The special is blocked/reduced by protect from magic. This means if your opponent is protecting melee, you will hit your FULL amount against them. Protect melee does not reduce the specials damage by 30%, since it is not a melee hit.

 

The sword is good, but has a niche itself. It is most useful for people running away with protect melee activated, as you will hit right though it.

 

Godswords are semi-useless now only because the high accuracy bonus they have isn't needed right now. Once we get another boss (which is way overdue) that requires extremely high accuracy, the godswords will be needed once again.

[Assume Nothing]

Korasi never misses though, so it has better potential for hitting it's max

Its also nice for monsters with insanely high defense, as it hits 50%-150% of your max hit, if turm, ovls, slayer, etc... this is a guarenteed 286-860, with spec restores, you get it twice in a row, which may help the tiniest bit... Also, if your opponent doesnt have cureses, you can use leach special, and be able to spec again within the next 10-20 seconds?

I don't think it's 50-150% of your max, as I've hit 50 and lower with the spec, but also 529. You just get a 50-150% bonus on a normal hit.

There is two different special attacks, one for Multi Combat areas, and one for Single Combat areas. 50%-150% only applies to single.

 

I've been doing quite a bit of testing on the special. I think I have most of the way it works figured out now.

 

- The special is a 100% magic attack. It makes TD's switch to magic protection prayer and gives magic xp when used.

- The special ignores defense and accuracy and simply rolls a hit. The accuracy does not effect your strength on the weapon, so you can still hit low hits. The sword then multiplies your damage roll by 50% to 150%.

- The special is blocked/reduced by protect from magic. This means if your opponent is protecting melee, you will hit your FULL amount against them. Protect melee does not reduce the specials damage by 30%, since it is not a melee hit.

 

The sword is good, but has a niche itself. It is most useful for people running away with protect melee activated, as you will hit right though it.

 

Godswords are semi-useless now only because the high accuracy bonus they have isn't needed right now. Once we get another boss (which is way overdue) that requires extremely high accuracy, the godswords will be needed once again.

 

Assuming that your data is correct, would that make Dragon Claw->Korasi Rushing stronger than ever before? With a Ring of Vigour, ofcourse

[BeNiceOk]

Assuming that your data is correct, would that make Dragon Claw->Korasi Rushing stronger than ever before? With a Ring of Vigour, ofcourse

 

I do not have a ring so I cannot confirm how it works. However, I was under the impression the ring worked as a "give back" special rather than reduce the amount to start the special. For example:

 

Using dragon claws with the ring requires 50% special energy, but gives back 10% of the power used once the special activates. Thus K-sword would still need 60% to start, but only use up 54%.

 

That would mean that you can't do a Claw spec into a K-sword spec, even though the power used between both is less than 100%.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not sure on this answer.

[SirIzenhime]

Godswords are semi-useless now only because the high accuracy bonus they have isn't needed right now. Once we get another boss (which is way overdue) that requires extremely high accuracy, the godswords will be needed once again.

 

Chaotics

 

Unless new bosses have some weird mechanic that makes you use godswords, we'll never need them again.

[Curiosity]

The godsword being outdated idea has manifested itself now, since the godsword prices are falling, particularly the Armadyl Godsword.

The other weapons have truly superceded the godsword as power weapons.

 

(Membership ran out, won't be getting it back any time soon, most of wealth invested in ags in my bank, oh boy... I'm going to be SUPER OMEGA ULTIMATE UBER BROKE)

[i_trollz_u]

(Membership ran out, won't be getting it back any time soon, most of wealth invested in ags in my bank, oh boy... I'm going to be SUPER OMEGA ULTIMATE UBER BROKE)

 

ok

[sumondskull6]

(Membership ran out, won't be getting it back any time soon, most of wealth invested in ags in my bank, oh boy... I'm going to be SUPER OMEGA ULTIMATE UBER BROKE)

 

Thank you, captain obvious, for bumping a near month old topic to let us know your membership ran out, and that you made a horribly stupid investment. :thumbup: