According to my friend he says someone who sits the bench and doesn't play at all doesn't earn their ring if their team wins a championship. My opinion on it is even if they don't play they still earned their spot on the pro team whether they are paid to be benched or to play.

 

What is your opinion?

My opinion is that this is better suited to the sports forum. Moved :P

This can also be applied for Olympic medalists.

 

In my opinion, yes. It's not their fault that they couldn't play (they don't necessarily choose to). I'm sure if they were told to play, they would. Plus they're a part of the team. If they don't get the medal too, then it's like they're not.

They are part of the team. Maybe their roles aren't as important, but they come prepared day in a day out, I'd say they deserve it.

If I myself were in that situation, I would feel like I didn't earn it. However, I do feel that benched players earn their rings.

depends on how much value you put on the ring i guess.

 

for me, individual contribution is much more valuable. people you know who assisted to win that game/series are the ones that matters and are rewarded (longer contracts, etc.)

 

just take a look at molina. he played for rangers in the 2010 world series and gets a ring even though the giants won. he also didn't get resigned and will probably have to retire

When my high school baseball team won state everyone got rings even the young ones who came up just for the playoffs who as far as I know sat on bench the entire time. I personally think everyone should get a ring because it takes everyone in that program to get the top even the those who end up sitting on the bench the whole time. Somewhere along the lines they contributed something worthy to the team that aided them to getting to the top.

An Ignorant statement by a casual fan of sports.

 

You earn championships with bench depth - no team is going to win with just it's starters. - Think i'm wrong - call me out on a championship team in MLB/NFL/NBA in the last 10 years

If I myself were in that situation, I would feel like I didn't earn it. However, I do feel that benched players earn their rings.

This.

 

I think they earned their spot on that team, whether as a bench player or a starter. If nothing else, they are there and ready to go. It is (usually) not their decision to sit. Still, if it was me, I would feel weird accepting it.

An Ignorant statement by a casual fan of sports.

 

You earn championships with bench depth - no team is going to win with just it's starters.

I agree with Das completely.

An Ignorant statement by a casual fan of sports.

 

You earn championships with bench depth - no team is going to win with just it's starters. - Think i'm wrong - call me out on a championship team in MLB/NFL/NBA in the last 10 years

 

I completely agree. It's probably one of the most important things for a successful team.

Do you have any idea what players who are benched DURING the game do during the rest of the week?

 

Most of winning or losing a game will depend on what that team does to prepare for the game. The actual game itself is just playing out to see who prepared better.

 

I mean theres some good luck/bad luck things that happen during the game...and some plays that rely on individual skill level. But for the most part, the performance of the team on game day is determined by how well their team practiced. Benched players are part of this.

An Ignorant statement by a casual fan of sports.

 

You earn championships with bench depth - no team is going to win with just it's starters. - Think i'm wrong - call me out on a championship team in MLB/NFL/NBA in the last 10 years

 

There are a few players that literally don't play at all. He's not referring to the subs, he's talking about the players that don't set foot on court unless it's practice, or if multiple players get injured. (by multiple, I mean like 3 or 4)

 

IMO, they deserve a ring, because they still have to practice and train until one day 3 players get injured and they finally get in.

An Ignorant statement by a casual fan of sports.

 

You earn championships with bench depth - no team is going to win with just it's starters. - Think i'm wrong - call me out on a championship team in MLB/NFL/NBA in the last 10 years

 

There are a few players that literally don't play at all. He's not referring to the subs, he's talking about the players that don't set foot on court unless it's practice, or if multiple players get injured. (by multiple, I mean like 3 or 4)

 

IMO, they deserve a ring, because they still have to practice and train until one day 3 players get injured and they finally get in.

 

 

Theres not a single member of the the 2009-2010 La Lakers who sat on the bench, Sure Luke Walton and Adam Morrison only got 300 Minutes, but they still contributed.

In the NBA your average starter average 30-40 minutes of a 60 minute game. I can count on my hand the guys who average over 40. Seasons are long and guys get hurt - if you look at the heat, Miller has gotten hurt, Hasleem has gotten hurt, allowing guys to step in and get more minutes. Some guys may only get 100 minutes in a season total - but injuries, fouls and suspensions can clear playing time. I was unable to find a case where a man on a 15 man roster did not play at all - Can you find me an example to prove me wrong?

 

2009 Saints? Mark Brunell still took 8 passes Third string back Lynell Hamilton still got touches. Buck Ortega the last tight end on the bottom of the depth chart? Still played on special teams in a few games.

Theres a superbowl winner and was unable to find a man on a 55 player roster who did not do play at all. Keep in mind most lineman are rotated out with bench players every few drives for freshness, Many lineman may not start a game, but play in all 16. The Same applies for defensive lineman. Running Backs get hurt easy, lots of teams use a back on third down or in "Garbage" time to preserve a starters health with a lead. The saints this year, have already signed backs due to injuries who were not on the roster (betts). Most linebackers play on special teams who are on the bench as do players of the secondary (and even then sometimes used for coverage). The only case you may have is a third string quarterback on a team somewhere - some backup QB's make more than starting positional players - however they are paid to emulate the opposing qb in practice. I can name about 10 teams who have played more than 1 QB this year for a significant amount of time (Steelers(Dixon, Batch,Big Ben, leftwich too?), 49ers (Alex Smith, Troy Smith, Carr), Lions (Stanton, Stafford, Hill), Eagles (Vick Kolb), Vikings(Favre, Jackson), Browns(McCoy, Delhomme, Wallace), Titans(Young, Collins, Smith), Panthers (Clasusen, Moore, Pike, St Pierre), Cowboys (Romo, Kitna), Redskins (Mcnabb, Sexy rexy is counting) , Dolphins (Henne, Pennington, Thigpin), Bills (Edwards, Fitzpatrick), Cardinals (Hall, Anderson, Skelton), Seahawks (Whitehurst, Hasselback), Raiders (Gradowski, Campbell), Broncos (Tebow, Orton). Pretty sure Garrad for Jax missed a game and Rogers for the packers may miss one as well. The bears used 3 in a game (Collins, Culter, some dude who got mauled)

 

In the NFL you're a play away from being out for the year. While some teams do elect to carry three QB's - you're a play away from needing that "bench" player. In the case of Houston, Dan Orvlosky makes more money than NFL leading rusher Arian Foster.

 

Football is a game of depth, you don't win without it, Find me one player who didn't earn a ring?

 

 

Hockey has multiple lines that rotate for freshness and injuries - find me one hockey player

 

Baseball is too dang confusing with the minor league call ups, but i was unable to find a baseball player who was benched for an entire year and just wasted away on a roster.

 

 

You're either a casual fan or ignorant to think that the bottom of the depth chart is useless - this is what makes good teams great, and bad teams horrible.

 

Some of the BEST nfl players are taken in the last rounds of the NFL draft. this proves bench depth IMO, These are guys drafted in the late rounds of the draft, or not at all.

 

Undrafted players and significant players drafted from round 5-7 2005-2009

Arian Foster (RB Texans), Davone Bess wr2 Dolphins), Dan Carpente (K, Dolphins), BenJarvus Green-Ellis (RB Pats) Garrett Hartley (K Saints), Danny Woodhead (RB, Patriots) Kevin Boss (TE, Giants), Brent Celek (TE, Eagles), Nick Folk (K, Bengals, Made pro bowl with dallas) , Pierre Thomas (Saints) , Antoine Bethea (S, Colts) , Cortland Finnegan (CB, Titans)Johnny Knox (WR Bears) , Miles Austin (WR, Cowboys), Trent Cole (DE, Eagles) Derek Anderson (Went to the pro bowl) , Jay Ratliff (DT, Dallas) Madison Hedgecock (FB, Giants) Robbie Gould (K, Chicago), Jon Condo (LB, oakland), Joshua Cribbs (KR, Browns) , Heath Farwell (LB, Vikings) Leonard Weaver (Eagles, FB)

Most players on a baseball team play every game (except for pitching rotations, obviously). When they don't play, it's either post-season or injury.

 

Being an avid Yankees fan, I looked at their roster from 2010. Most of the players played. If they didn't, it was an injury or they got played pretty early and the managers decided it wasn't yet their time to play.

For hockey players, the real debate is whether the enforcers earn their ring :lol:

 

Ex. (not that the leafs would ever win) but colton orr does one or two minutes a game and is basically completely useless except for fighting.

 

Also, do the floating players, who go back and forth between the minors and big leagues earn their ring?

I'd say enforcers earn a ring, they are brought in for a very specific purpose - same for floaters

 

if they skate- they contribute

Cristobal Huet definitely earned that Stanley Cup ring this year

Theres not a single member of the the 2009-2010 La Lakers who sat on the bench, Sure Luke Walton and Adam Morrison only got 300 Minutes, but they still contributed. In the NBA your average starter average 30-40 minutes of a 60 minute game. I can count on my hand the guys who average over 40. Seasons are long and guys get hurt - if you look at the heat, Miller has gotten hurt, Hasleem has gotten hurt, allowing guys to step in and get more minutes. Some guys may only get 100 minutes in a season total - but injuries, fouls and suspensions can clear playing time. I was unable to find a case where a man on a 15 man roster did not play at all - Can you find me an example to prove me wrong?

You're confusing the NBA with hockey. 4 twelve minute quarters = 48 minutes in total.

 

Although I agree any player on the current roster deserves a ring.

 

To further emphasise your point, some teams barely have anyone averaging 30 minutes (The top player in minutes on the Phoenix Suns is Steve Nash (who is nearing his 40's for god's sake) and is averaging 33 min/game)

 

Also, there is only one player that is averaging 40+ min/game currently (Rudy Gay). Kevin Durant, Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright (who?) and Pau Gasol come close with 39 min.

They still got on the team, they still beat out competition to get there. Whether they sit on the bench most the time or not, they're still good enough to be in the league.

For hockey players, the real debate is whether the enforcers earn their ring :lol:

 

Ex. (not that the leafs would ever win) but colton orr does one or two minutes a game and is basically completely useless except for fighting.

Enforcers earn it for the same reason as everybody else. They have a job to do, and if they do it, the team is better for it.

Absolutely. These people bust their butts in practice. They earned their spot on the team. End of discussion.

 

If you want to only give the rings to some people it's too hard to define a person who just sits on the bench. Is this someone who sits on the bench all the time? What if they play a minute or two? They all deserve credit.

Theres not a single member of the the 2009-2010 La Lakers who sat on the bench, Sure Luke Walton and Adam Morrison only got 300 Minutes, but they still contributed. In the NBA your average starter average 30-40 minutes of a 60 minute game. I can count on my hand the guys who average over 40. Seasons are long and guys get hurt - if you look at the heat, Miller has gotten hurt, Hasleem has gotten hurt, allowing guys to step in and get more minutes. Some guys may only get 100 minutes in a season total - but injuries, fouls and suspensions can clear playing time. I was unable to find a case where a man on a 15 man roster did not play at all - Can you find me an example to prove me wrong?

You're confusing the NBA with hockey. 4 twelve minute quarters = 48 minutes in total.

 

Although I agree any player on the current roster deserves a ring.

 

To further emphasise your point, some teams barely have anyone averaging 30 minutes (The top player in minutes on the Phoenix Suns is Steve Nash (who is nearing his 40's for god's sake) and is averaging 33 min/game)

 

Also, there is only one player that is averaging 40+ min/game currently (Rudy Gay). Kevin Durant, Monta Ellis, Dorell Wright (who?) and Pau Gasol come close with 39 min.

 

andre iguodala averaged 42 last season I believe, stupid mistake on the quarters :P .

 

Dorrell Wright is a former heat player tearing it up with Golden State - Fantasy basketball steal of the year right now

Definitely someone I wish I had as a backup on my fantasy team.. <_<

Yeah they earned their spot on the team, they deserve a ring if their team wins the big one. Rings are worth quite a bit, watched Pawn Stars and a NFL Superbowl ring went for over 10k+ and it wasn't even a star's ring.