Dungeoneering and Free Trade

[The_Gabe]

trust trades

 

You've no idea how much nostalgia you just gave me with that term. Ahh, those were the days...

 

 

OT: Dung with not even change slightly.

[Howlin0001]

If It helps I can remember doing a trust trade was a mutable offence.

[pulli23]

Doubt it, but it falls under a trust trade, so it's a scam.

Trust trades aren't against the rules, they're just not recommended because they COULD be scams.

 

But yeah, the problem is that pro DGers are going to have a pretty high price for this sort of thing, and the aforementioned scamming.

 

Wrong.

Few month before free trade went rules were amended to make trust trades a rule breach and reportable.

Which is stupid and I'm reporting anyone who reports me for it. You can't just change rules and act like you're all might and heighty..

[Omali]

Now jagex is monitoring xp gain is a certain amount of time. One of my clan members got suspected of botting and his mining lvl was taken from 77 to 10 in one go (he had 50 mining at lvl 70 and got suspected 3 years later). This shows how Jagex's system is innacurate (or maybe he just got unlucky). That being the case, buying dungeoneering would be hard if the system is very sensitive. And i doubt this will bring back hoards of bots in f2p yews.

 

Or that your friend was botting and got caught.

[Hajutze]

Now jagex is monitoring xp gain is a certain amount of time. One of my clan members got suspected of botting and his mining lvl was taken from 77 to 10 in one go (he had 50 mining at lvl 70 and got suspected 3 years later). This shows how Jagex's system is innacurate (or maybe he just got unlucky). That being the case, buying dungeoneering would be hard if the system is very sensitive. And i doubt this will bring back hoards of bots in f2p yews.

 

Or that your friend was botting and got caught.

 

And they punished him .. 3 years later ?

[The Observer]

The tradeoff that you get now is that you both get a fair share of XP (and a small part a gesture of good will in some cases) since you get prestige from doing previous floors after resetting. This allows it to be less of charity work when resetting floors to help a friend or someone else who hasn't progressed as far as you did. So, I don't really see this being a major issue in the future. However, I'm sure it'll happen in a few cases just like anything else.

[Druvovic]

I'd happily pay 1-2M an hour to leech the semi-high level floors while studying.

[PereGrin]

Now jagex is monitoring xp gain is a certain amount of time. One of my clan members got suspected of botting and his mining lvl was taken from 77 to 10 in one go (he had 50 mining at lvl 70 and got suspected 3 years later). This shows how Jagex's system is innacurate (or maybe he just got unlucky). That being the case, buying dungeoneering would be hard if the system is very sensitive. And i doubt this will bring back hoards of bots in f2p yews.

 

Or that your friend was botting and got caught.

 

And they punished him .. 3 years later ?

well, if he had 50 mining, and then he had 77 mining, looks like he gained some mining xp besides what he had gotten 3 years previously. Soooo he could have botted 50-77 mining, gotten caught, and then been reset. And you get punished for botting, so he got reset to lvl 10, losing legit xp as well as botted xp.

 

Moral: Don't bot, or if you do, and get caught, it is possible to bot the level back in a day anyway.

[Viv]

tbh getting 80 or 85 would be hard in 117 i mean peeople wouldnt do this for 120

 

but also thier are no pro teams mostly every member of the team is pro or most

 

however 1 person doing nothing + a 4 person perm team would prob only be at max 5-10 mins waste and if someone paid a certain amount would be good for a high value of time sometimes we dg with leachers involuntarily...

 

however most people arent really in a perm team compared to november...and most of the people that could do constant 25 min maps with fillers are gone too lol

 

maybe a decent way to get 85 or 99 but wouldnt work for afte 99 but i gueess most people dont like dg as much as hardcore pro

 

 

dg is an enjoyable skill but that dude is right for the earlier lvls ...i mean even if you can get a 117 map froom 1.5hrs to like 50 mins it would get soomeone thier 85 in half the time..

[Crossed_Body]

I enjoy DG, it's one of the fastest non-buyables as well. Why spend gp for a skill that you find enjoyable and is already fast.

Protip: Some people don't find it enjoyable.

[Nifflin]

I would be willing to pay 200-300 gp/dung token.

[kapeg90]

Dragon Slayer pretty much hit the nail spot on the head!

[Star_Fox]

I personally would shell out 50 mil at the drop of a hat just for 85 dungeoneering for the rapier and other goodies.

Really?

 

Really?

 

I came so close to throwing up in my mouth after reading that.

...Why? I could have easily made 50mil in the time I spent from 1-85 dungeoneering with bad random teams, especially with all the ragequitters. 50m for 85 dungeoneering is an incredibly good deal.

 

Are you telling me you don't think the best weapon in the game is worth 50m?

 

Hell no. spending 50m on an item you can get for free in less than 2 days is beyond comprehensible. >.> Idk how much

50m is worth to you but to me (and probably most other people), it's a heck of a lot of money.

 

If you're so sick and tired of rage quitters, try world 148. make it so only 130+ cb and/or 90+ dg can recruit. It helps

prevent bad teams or rage quitters but also setting up a permanent team you can completely trust isn't a bad idea too.

[JacTise69]

I personally would shell out 50 mil at the drop of a hat just for 85 dungeoneering for the rapier and other goodies.

Really?

 

Really?

 

I came so close to throwing up in my mouth after reading that.

...Why? I could have easily made 50mil in the time I spent from 1-85 dungeoneering with bad random teams, especially with all the ragequitters. 50m for 85 dungeoneering is an incredibly good deal.

 

Are you telling me you don't think the best weapon in the game is worth 50m?

 

Hell no. spending 50m on something you can get in less than 2 days is beyond comprehensible. >.> Idk how much

50m is worth to you but to me (and probably most other people), it's a heck of a lot of money.

 

If you're so sick and tired of rage quitters, try world 148. make it so only 130+ cb and/or 90+ dg can recruit. It helps

prevent bad teams or rage quitters but also setting up a permanent team you can completely trust isn't a bad idea too.

 

You can get 85 dg in two days of casual play? I hardly ever play more than ~5 hours a week because of irl commitments but if I could pay people to run me through dungeons I would do it in a heart beat. I don't enjoy dg even with a prom 2h and a hood bound.

[SirIzenhime]

Some people will try it

They'll get scammed

They'll cry and moan to jagex and blame them

I'll have an extra form of entertainment.

[Star_Fox]

I personally would shell out 50 mil at the drop of a hat just for 85 dungeoneering for the rapier and other goodies.

Really?

 

Really?

 

I came so close to throwing up in my mouth after reading that.

...Why? I could have easily made 50mil in the time I spent from 1-85 dungeoneering with bad random teams, especially with all the ragequitters. 50m for 85 dungeoneering is an incredibly good deal.

 

Are you telling me you don't think the best weapon in the game is worth 50m?

 

Hell no. spending 50m on something you can get in less than 2 days is beyond comprehensible. >.> Idk how much

50m is worth to you but to me (and probably most other people), it's a heck of a lot of money.

 

If you're so sick and tired of rage quitters, try world 148. make it so only 130+ cb and/or 90+ dg can recruit. It helps

prevent bad teams or rage quitters but also setting up a permanent team you can completely trust isn't a bad idea too.

 

You can get 85 dg in two days of casual play? I hardly ever play more than ~5 hours a week because of irl commitments but if I could pay people to run me through dungeons I would do it in a heart beat. I don't enjoy dg even with a prom 2h and a hood bound.

 

 

I was referring to getting the rapier itself. Which should be a piece of cake once you know your stuff about dungeoneering.

Getting 1-85 still, isn't really worth spending 50m over when you could just get it for free by training it and also earning a

handful of tokens on the process.

 

Dungeoneering shouldn't be a challenging skill to level up. The only problem is that some may like it, some don't. Just like any

other skill.

 

Lastly, you don't NEED good binds in order to enjoy dungeoning. To me, it's mostly the diversity of each floors and the

random generating mechanics of the dungeon that make it exciting. I went off with only a platebody and a rapier

and I pulled it off just fine.

[green9090]

I was referring to getting the rapier itself. Which should be a piece of cake once you know your stuff about dungeoneering.

Getting 1-85 still, isn't really worth spending 50m over when you could just get it for free by training it and also earning a

handful of tokens on the process.

 

Dungeoneering shouldn't be a challenging skill to level up. The only problem is that some may like it, some don't. Just like any

other skill.

 

Lastly, you don't NEED good binds in order to enjoy dungeoning. To me, it's mostly the diversity of each floors and the

random generating mechanics of the dungeon that make it exciting. I went off with only a platebody and a rapier

and I pulled it off just fine.

Doesn't really matter what you were referring to- the discussion was about spending 50m to get from 1 to 85 dungeoneering. Of course I wouldn't pay 50m for a rapier now, at 94 dungeoneering, but nobody ever said they would do that.

 

If you find low level dungeoneering training fun, great, good for you. That's called an opinion, and it's not a very common one.

[SwreeTak]

As some people have pointed out here the risk of getting scammed is quite big if this system was to be put in use. I think that it is possible to come around a bit of this problem by paying half of the money before the dungeon and the other half at the end of the dungeon. However, you will have to be careful and certainly there will be people scamming other people at Daemonheim.

I don't think Dungeoneering will ever become a buy-able skill like for example Prayer though.

[Glove]

People paying to leech dunge? Great, as if there weren't enough people with no clue what they're supposed to be doing. I soloed 1-75ish dunge and sucked hardcore when I finally started teaming with people because I had all sorts of habits that just didn't mesh with rushing and team play. Still, at least I knew some of the basic mechanics. If someone leeched from 1-85 and then decided they wanted to start actually dunging for whatever reason, they would know nothing about how dunging works at all. Sure, there are vids and guides, but the best way to learn is to do; and, a key component to dunging cannot be taught in a vid or a guide. In dunge you've got to learn to work and communicate with strangers who will likely irk you at some point and have styles of play and communication that differ from yours; you absolutely only learn to handle this in a dunge setting by actually doing floors.

 

Yeah, this is me hoping that should free trade get reintroduced to RS this never takes hold. Luckily, it probably won't for a variety of reasons.