Rush straight for CR?

[Obtaurian]

Well then you are welcome to come try to crash me at bandos with your rapier then. Or fight me melee v melee with it.

 

Add me in-game and I'll be sure to come crash you whenever you're on.

[Th e Doctor]

Well then you are welcome to come try to crash me at bandos with your rapier then. Or fight me melee v melee with it.

 

Please refrain from posting spam in H&A regarding your personal issues with people pointing out when you are incorrect about an issue. Feel free to use the private message system in the future if you need to contact obt or myself in this manner.

[Pay_Me]

KK....have kc in about 2hrs

 

Thanks mod tieszen.....we will test it out to see which is better....seems relevant.

 

If I am wrong then I will get a rapier....but seeing as I have always taken the majority of the boss kills from anyone in ffa I feel pretty confident.

 

BTW....taking 3 of 10 boss kills doesn't make rapier better.

[Obtaurian]

KK....have kc in about 2hrs

 

Thanks mod tieszen.....we will test it out to see which is better....seems relevant.

 

If I am wrong then I will get a rapier....but seeing as I have always taken the majority of the boss kills from anyone in ffa I feel pretty confident.

 

BTW....taking 3 of 10 boss kills doesn't make rapier better.

 

A few notes/observations:

 

- The numbers weigh heavily in my favor. Over a large sample-size, the rapier will win (assuming dragon defenders).

- It's really cute that you think you're right despite having no numbers to back your argument up. Just sayin'.

- I think it's funny that you placed so much emphasis on dungeoneering level when you were the one with the higher level, but as soon as a real pro comes along (eg: me), suddenly dungeoneering level doesn't matter.

- There's a direct correlation between preferred chaotic weapon and penis size. It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.

 

After we do a few hundred Bandos kills, let's go to K'ril, TDs, DKs, and do a bunch of slayer tasks together. It'll be a lot of fun showing you just how much you fail at both combat and combat advice.

 

tl;dr CLS sucks and you should feel bad for thinking otherwise.

[Quyneax]

The rapier is known to be better on minions (obviously) which is preferred for long-term camping.

 

The rapier is known to be better on Dagganoth Supreme and tormented demons and Kril. It is also the best weapon for all dragons, and anything under ~300 combat besides waterfiends (where cls sucks, by the way) and skeletal wyverns (where the cls is best).

 

There are two shady areas: Saradomin GWD and Bandos GWD. On Zilyana you would either duo or trio with a maul, or solo with a divine. If you solo with divine, you can use cls, but the rapier will allow you to ss faster thus saving you trouble with minions (not that you should have many, but still). Also, if you were using torva (highly unlikely, but still), the rapier would still approximately equal the cls in dps.

 

For Graardor the same applies, with the exception that it is much more feasible to use a defender, which again favours the rapier.

[Bladewing]

i have longsword and rapier

 

every time i use my longsword i am disappointed

[Pay_Me]

Dung level obviously doesnt mean anything when talking about us....because we both have chaotics......he doesn't have one so how can he speak from experience.

 

Now don't throw out all kinds of BS numbers that you pull outa your exhaust pipe...

 

I said we will do Bandos and melee vs melee

 

So...get your kc and meet me up at gwd in about 1hr and 30min.

 

kthxbia

[Bladewing]

you have never had rapier so you can't say from personal experience which is better

 

for all you know the people using rapier who tried to crash you didn't have overloads or turmoil. really your argument is thin and i look forward to the results of this test.

[Obtaurian]

Dung level obviously doesnt mean anything when talking about us....because we both have chaotics......he doesn't have one so how can he speak from experience.

 

Now don't throw out all kinds of BS numbers that you pull outa your exhaust pipe...

 

I said we will do Bandos and melee vs melee

 

So...get your kc and meet me up at gwd in about 1hr and 30min.

 

kthxbia

 

Exhaust pipe numbers, freshly pulled.

 

Failure to read that topic will solidify your reputation as a complete moron on these forums (not that it's not already set in stone at this point, but I'm trying to be nice). Also, I once crashed a CLS user with a dragon scimitar. I got every kill. Obviously this empirical data confirms that dragon scimitar > CLS for Bandos.

 

Before I crash you, may I ask how many trips we're going to do? I'd prefer to go every single day for the next month so we can get a real idea of which weapon is better. We'll probably be best friends by the end of it.

 

Maybe I'll even teach you how to dungeoneer after I prove that CR > CLS. :)

 

EDIT:

 

you have never had rapier so you can't say from personal experience which is better

 

for all you know the people using rapier who tried to crash you didn't have overloads or turmoil. really your argument is thin and i look forward to the results of this test.

 

Yes, how can I take you seriously if you've never owned a rapier, Pay Me? This test isn't looking very good for you. Please don't disappoint me by showing up in a fighter torso or something silly.

[MstrMonopoly]

KK....have kc in about 2hrs

 

Thanks mod tieszen.....we will test it out to see which is better....seems relevant.

 

If I am wrong then I will get a rapier....but seeing as I have always taken the majority of the boss kills from anyone in ffa I feel pretty confident.

 

BTW....taking 3 of 10 boss kills doesn't make rapier better.

 

A few notes/observations:

 

- The numbers weigh heavily in my favor. Over a large sample-size, the rapier will win (assuming dragon defenders).

- It's really cute that you think you're right despite having no numbers to back your argument up. Just sayin'.

- I think it's funny that you placed so much emphasis on dungeoneering level when you were the one with the higher level, but as soon as a real pro comes along (eg: me), suddenly dungeoneering level doesn't matter.

- There's a direct correlation between preferred chaotic weapon and penis size. It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.

 

After we do a few hundred Bandos kills, let's go to K'ril, TDs, DKs, and do a bunch of slayer tasks together. It'll be a lot of fun showing you just how much you fail at both combat and combat advice.

 

tl;dr CLS sucks and you should feel bad for thinking otherwise.

 

lol

[Bladewing]

inb4 foursideking shows up and calls everyone a meanie poopie face

[Th e Doctor]

Dung level obviously doesnt mean anything when talking about us....because we both have chaotics......he doesn't have one so how can he speak from experience.

 

Now don't throw out all kinds of BS numbers that you pull outa your exhaust pipe...

 

I said we will do Bandos and melee vs melee

 

So...get your kc and meet me up at gwd in about 1hr and 30min.

 

kthxbia

 

Your mistake is thinking that only people whom experience something first hand are capable of having knowledge of it.

 

And normally people who accuse the numbers of being bs are the people that are wrong. Numbers don't lie.

 

I can tell you that you are wrong because people whom I trust and that are smarter and more experienced than me *looks at grimy* have done the math and testing and have posted the results.

 

My question is what ratio of kills do you have to get in order to show that cls is definitively better than a crapier at bandos? If rapier gets 469/1000 kills does that prove that cls is better? But fine, let's wait out this stupid test that's been done already and shown that cls is a waste of pixels.

[MstrMonopoly]

Also, CR + defender EASILY crashes CLS + Divine, even I've done it.

[Th e Doctor]

inb4 foursideking shows up and calls everyone a meanie poopie face

 

Literally just laughed out loud in the middle of starbucks and got great stares from the old couple trying to read the paper.

[Vezon Dash]

inb4 foursideking shows up and calls everyone a meanie poopie face

 

+1

That kid is a pure troll.

[Bladewing]

out of 1000 kills, you would need CLS to win 521 out of 1000 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 100 kills, you would need CLS to win 57 out of 100 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 50 kills (standard pro duo ffa), you would need CLS to win 30 out of 50 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

GL CLS man

[Autist]

I think it's pretty obvious that he simply doesn't want to admit to himself that he made a bad choice when buying CLS over CR.

[Troll Bomber]

Well depending on how fast you can do your larges, you might be better off just going for a flat rate level like me. I just started dunging less than two weeks ago from level 55 dung (all from tog, no tokens), and tonight I plan on getting 84 (with help from the new tip.it dung cc :D). I was originally going to stop at 81 for rapier, but once i bought rapier, I didn't feel like paying 2M a recharge. Plus I already planned on getting frosts eventually, so I figured why not just do it now so that when I start slayer/frosts I can get 3-4 rapier repairs for ~800k.

 

You could do that also, seeing as frosts make pretty good money still, and if you don't care about a 2M recharge, then there's quite a few leftover tokens from 85 (or w/e lvl you go to) that you can use to buy the other rewards.

 

Just an idea that I've been using that's worked out for me so far, so maybe you can get it a try. Just bought the herblore efficiency scroll too. Loved making 1156 ppots from the 1005 material's worth i had in bank :D

[Squisher_33]

only things i own in order are

 

scroll of life

 

rapier

 

maul

 

scroll of cleansing

 

rigour

 

crossbow

 

eagle eye

 

and 7m dung xp

 

ill do not own an arcane since ive never maged before, i view mage as a skill and not a combat stat. i may buy asn and cs after i beat dung and have those for ice wyrm tasks, and maybe barraging necks

[Soma2035]

The rapier is known to be better on minions (obviously) which is preferred for long-term camping.

 

The rapier is known to be better on Dagganoth Supreme and tormented demons and Kril. It is also the best weapon for all dragons, and anything under ~300 combat besides waterfiends (where cls sucks, by the way) and skeletal wyverns (where the cls is best).

 

There are two shady areas: Saradomin GWD and Bandos GWD. On Zilyana you would either duo or trio with a maul, or solo with a divine. If you solo with divine, you can use cls, but the rapier will allow you to ss faster thus saving you trouble with minions (not that you should have many, but still). Also, if you were using torva (highly unlikely, but still), the rapier would still approximately equal the cls in dps.

 

For Graardor the same applies, with the exception that it is much more feasible to use a defender, which again favours the rapier.

 

Nex. You do not want to try Rapier on Nex.

 

*Shudders*

[Golvellius]

Hey, its my favorite thread (CLS vrs chickenbeater) in my favorite clown-trolled forum.

 

out of 1000 kills, you would need CLS to win 521 out of 1000 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 100 kills, you would need CLS to win 57 out of 100 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 50 kills (standard pro duo ffa), you would need CLS to win 30 out of 50 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

GL CLS man

Amazing analysis dathamburgler. =D>

By randomly picking numbers greater than 50% you proved your point in an eloquent manner.

 

Hey I can't let go of my favorite therad.

Here stare at it and ignore any post by golvellius.

Exhaust pipe numbers, freshly pulled.

Failure to read that topic will solidify your reputation as a complete moron on these forums.

I am not a moron though because I have total faith in the following statement. (which was relayed to me by the efficiency god - Spreadsheticous).

Empirical data confirms that dragon scimitar > CLS for Bandos.

All praise the spreadsheets.

 

Maybe I'll even teach you how to dungeoneer after I prove that CR > CLS. :)

Better play guitar while you run around not killing stuff and screaming "key this, gate that, damn your slow".

Because that will be the only entertaining part of that adventure.

[green9090]

I was so excited when I saw Trollvellius had the latest post here, and I was not disappointed. You are such an amazing parody of idiots. Are you Stephen Colbert in real life?

[ghjkl]

Hey, its my favorite thread (CLS vrs chickenbeater) in my favorite clown-trolled forum.

 

out of 1000 kills, you would need CLS to win 521 out of 1000 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 100 kills, you would need CLS to win 57 out of 100 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

out of 50 kills (standard pro duo ffa), you would need CLS to win 30 out of 50 to be 95% sure that it is actually better than rapier

 

GL CLS man

Amazing analysis dathamburgler. =D>

By randomly picking numbers greater than 50% you proved your point in an eloquent manner.

 

Hey I can't let go of my favorite therad.

Here stare at it and ignore any post by golvellius.

Exhaust pipe numbers, freshly pulled.

Failure to read that topic will solidify your reputation as a complete moron on these forums.

I am not a moron though because I have total faith in the following statement. (which was relayed to me by the efficiency god - Spreadsheticous).

Empirical data confirms that dragon scimitar > CLS for Bandos.

All praise the spreadsheets.

 

Maybe I'll even teach you how to dungeoneer after I prove that CR > CLS. :)

Better play guitar while you run around not killing stuff and screaming "key this, gate that, damn your slow".

Because that will be the only entertaining part of that adventure.

Better spend more time trolling on the forums, it provides entertainment for all of us, instead of yelling at your dung teammates to stop the doorlag so you can mine your novite and make 2147000000 novite arrows every dung.

 

Better listen to Golvellius, math is for suckers. Just get the weapon that looks the coolest and has the highest stat bonuses. AKA the MAUL

[Crossed_Body]

Amazing analysis dathamburgler. =D>

By randomly picking numbers greater than 50% you proved your point in an eloquent manner.

 

 

He doesn't know basic probabilistic methods! Ahahah!

 

 

Quite laughable indeed.

[Bladewing]

statistics 101: z-test of significance for two proportions

 

that's where i got those numbers from brovellius :thumbup:

 

just wondering, which posters to you follow to see which threads are best for trolling? i don't think grimy has posted in here, so i'm guessing it's obtaurian or squareroot2?