Remapping keys

[zoth01]

I found a problem:

 

-Laptop users that don't have numlock have to use FN to make the mouse keys work. The deal is that the keys are in the places far distant from it. Down is K, up is 8, etc, making it impossible to reach with one hand.

 

I looked in the internet and found a j mod saying:

 

 

but since the program I require does other stuff besides that, I decided to ask for advice. Here's the program features:

 

-Automate almost anything by sending keystrokes and mouse clicks. You can write a mouse or keyboard macro by hand or use the macro recorder.

-Create hotkeys for keyboard, joystick, and mouse. Virtually any key, button, or combination can become a hotkey.

-Expand abbreviations as you type them. For example, typing "btw" can automatically produce "by the way".

-Remap keys and buttons on your keyboard, joystick, and mouse.

 

I would only be using the last option. I'm concerned though that the program, while having other functionalities, flag me as a third-party program user in jagex detection system, because of what this j mod said:

 

 

So, can I get in troubles if I use it :blink: ?

 

Ps: I know that mouse keys are legal, my concern is about a remapping program, consider that when posting, thanks!

[Obtaurian]

AHK can be used to remap keys. I actually have my f keys remapped to be close to my arrow keys for ease-of-access. There's no possible way for Jagex to detect that you're doing anything out of the norm.

[Zaaps1]

You're talking of auto hotkey? That program is under extremely controversial debate as it stands and you probably won't get a 100% correct answer.

[Wkw]

I've been using a program called ControlMK to remap my xbox controller to click, move the mouse, and arrow keys for nearly two years.

And nothing has come of it. I actually prefer the controller to browse the web and I can't use my arrow keys anymore because I'm used to having one hand on my controller while I play.

 

 

What happened to "1in for 1out" they had going on about?

[zoth01]

AHK can be used to remap keys. I actually have my f keys remapped to be close to my arrow keys for ease-of-access. There's no possible way for Jagex to detect that you're doing anything out of the norm.

 

I will look into it. Deal is as you can see by that Jmod post, they can detect you're using an accessibility program, so they probably can detect remapping ( just guessing)

 

You're talking of auto hotkey? That program is under extremely controversial debate as it stands and you probably won't get a 100% correct answer.

 

Yeah, autokey, I understand why. Just bugs me not to know if there's a legal way to remap keybinds while having sure I won't get flagged as a rule breaker. People in laptops should be able to mouse key aswell right :wall: ?

[Michael]

They say as long as it's on a 1:1 input to output ratio it's fine.

[eee]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

 

Autohotkey is also fine if used correctly. The only idiots who might have a problem with programs like autohotkey are certain mods here. I'm pretty sure they're just mad for other reasons though.

 

[Wkw]

What would you need to do with a java applet to be able to detect remapped keys, anyway?

[Quyneax]

Autohotkey is also fine if used correctly. The only idiots who might have a problem with programs like autohotkey are certain mods here. I'm pretty sure they're just mad for other reasons though.

Excuse me?

 

1 input (keystroke, mouseclick, mousemove) must be one action, no more. Moving and clicking are separate actions. Moving to a predefined spot is not allowed (you can't do that with a mouse normally (that is you can but you need to guide it all the way)).

[Wkw]

Autohotkey is also fine if used correctly. The only idiots who might have a problem with programs like autohotkey are certain mods here. I'm pretty sure they're just mad for other reasons though.

Excuse me?

 

1 input (keystroke, mouseclick, mousemove) must be one action, no more. Moving and clicking are separate actions. Moving to a predefined spot is not allowed (you can't do that with a mouse normally (that is you can but you need to guide it all the way)).

 

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6

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6

Mouse can jump between 2 specific points with mousekeys. Your point of moving to a predefined spot is null.

[Riptide Mage]

Autohotkey is also fine if used correctly. The only idiots who might have a problem with programs like autohotkey are certain mods here. I'm pretty sure they're just mad for other reasons though.

Excuse me?

 

1 input (keystroke, mouseclick, mousemove) must be one action, no more. Moving and clicking are separate actions. Moving to a predefined spot is not allowed (you can't do that with a mouse normally (that is you can but you need to guide it all the way)).

 

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Mouse can jump between 2 specific points with mousekeys. Your point of moving to a predefined spot is null.

 

Touch screens can also move to a defined spot with no movement in between.

[Quyneax]

The 4 and 6 keys do not store predifined positions. You simply misunderstand my sentence.

 

@ Touchscreens: yes, but you still got to move your hand right?

[zoth01]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

Since autohotkey seems so controversiable, tried this one, but having to reboot windows everytime I want to do some bolts seems a bit annoying, and the controller one can't be used because I need the hand to press FN key in keyboard :wall:

 

Will appreciate any suggestions that work in this situation, thanks :pray:

[Th e Doctor]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

Since autohotkey seems so controversiable, tried this one, but having to reboot windows everytime I want to do some bolts seems a bit annoying, and the controller one can't be used because I need the hand to press FN key in keyboard :wall:

 

Will appreciate any suggestions that work in this situation, thanks :pray:

 

1. Buy a small paper weight.

2. Set the paper weight on the fn key.

3. ????

4. Profit!

[zoth01]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

Since autohotkey seems so controversiable, tried this one, but having to reboot windows everytime I want to do some bolts seems a bit annoying, and the controller one can't be used because I need the hand to press FN key in keyboard :wall:

 

Will appreciate any suggestions that work in this situation, thanks :pray:

 

1. Buy a small paper weight.

2. Set the paper weight on the fn key.

3. ????

4. Profit!

 

Try it for half an hour and then tell me how's your wrist ;) Don't assume I didn't try that.

[Th e Doctor]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

Since autohotkey seems so controversiable, tried this one, but having to reboot windows everytime I want to do some bolts seems a bit annoying, and the controller one can't be used because I need the hand to press FN key in keyboard :wall:

 

Will appreciate any suggestions that work in this situation, thanks :pray:

 

1. Buy a small paper weight.

2. Set the paper weight on the fn key.

3. ????

4. Profit!

 

Try it for half an hour and then tell me how's your wrist ;) Don't assume I didn't try that.

 

I meant to free up your hand to use the controller one...

[Lose No Hope]

AHK is fine as long as you keep it to the 1 input:1 output

[I_am_Not]

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they don't ban anybody so i don't see why this would be a problem lol

[Nifflin]

Autohotkey is also fine if used correctly. The only idiots who might have a problem with programs like autohotkey are certain mods here. I'm pretty sure they're just mad for other reasons though.

Excuse me?

 

1 input (keystroke, mouseclick, mousemove) must be one action, no more. Moving and clicking are separate actions. Moving to a predefined spot is not allowed (you can't do that with a mouse normally (that is you can but you need to guide it all the way)).

 

I confirmed from a j mod ages ago that moving to a predefined spot is in a sort of grey area. For example if you used a touchsceen you would be able to do it, so doing that using AHK isn't as bad as it once was. AHK isn't explicitly legal (third party program), but neither were mousekeys and swiftkit at one time. Even using Skype to dung is an unendorsed use of a third party software for Runescape. When those two weren't legal nobody got really got banned for using them and they eventually became legal. Furthermore Jagex detection systems won't pick up on AHK, at least not to my knowledge.

 

The most important rule to follow is that one movement IRL must equal one action in game. So no loops on any scripts you create.

 

Lets say you want to remap something that is 4 mouse movements/clicks (fletching bolts) to the first six F keys, it would need to look like this;

 

F1=click spot 1

F2=move to spot 2

F3=click spot 2

F4=move to spot 1

 

Of course as script it would look different but this is a basic summery of what you would have that would be legal. The 1:1 rule is the most important rule when creating scripts.

 

It's not the type of thing you would ever get banned for anyways, strangely what I found out from the same J mod is that it is not allowed to to remap something to your mousewheel.

 

Edit: It also depends on which J Mod you ask. The community mods (Timbo) who don't understand these things will say they are illegal. More metagame savvy mods (Kathy) will tell you that they are fine.

[Jimmyw3000]

I've been using a simple program called Keytweak for the last year. It's perfectly within the rules and Jagex can't detect remapped keys anyway.

 

Since autohotkey seems so controversiable, tried this one, but having to reboot windows everytime I want to do some bolts seems a bit annoying, and the controller one can't be used because I need the hand to press FN key in keyboard :wall:

 

Will appreciate any suggestions that work in this situation, thanks :pray:

 

1. Buy a small paper weight.

2. Set the paper weight on the fn key.

3. ????

4. Profit!

 

Try it for half an hour and then tell me how's your wrist ;) Don't assume I didn't try that.

 

I meant to free up your hand to use the controller one...

 

 

it's possible to invert the FN key function by changing it in the (BIOS(?)) screen.

 

i did that so now the F keys work as they should instead of changing the volume

[Wkw]

You can also remap keys via editing the registry... So I don't really see how they can say its illegal.

What about users of linux? You can do anything you can think of there. They can't say remapping keys is illegal, less they say "you can't change your mouse dpi and you can only play the game under windows 7 sp1!"

[Ags_K0]

The obvious solution would be to buy a keyboard.

[Lose No Hope]

The obvious solution would be to buy a keyboard.

Are you a troll or just an idiot?

Try reading the actual post next time...

[Ags_K0]

The obvious solution would be to buy a keyboard.

Are you a troll or just an idiot?

Try reading the actual post next time...

Nice options, but neither.

 

I merely pointed out an alternative solution to his 'problem'. JaGex is likely to tell you that AHK for remapping keys is not permitted, although no unfair advantage would be created.

 

It depends: The OP could abide by the rules and purchase a keyboard, or he could act on a decision with inconsistent/contradictory advice from different moderators/Jagex moderators. The choice is there.

[AHappySeeker]

You... don't know what mousekeys are, do you?