Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 No where have I seen a formula for the success rate of receiving logs, ores, etc. while skilling. What we need to do is to find a formula that we can hopefully later on use on the website's guides sections so that we can find out the success rates of getting these certain items. Some things we need to take into consideration:Player's level in specific skillRequired level to woodcut/mine the objectRequired level to equip the required equipment (axe, pickaxe, etc.) We need you all to come up with a formula so that once and for all, we can find the success rate. Hopefully this thread will meet some smart mathematicians. P.S. This has never been done. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Interesting idea! I'd reccomend this to be in metagame discussion though, more people willing to gather data! ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yeah, hopefully we can gather data for the time it takes to woodcut, mine, etc. for each tree/rock depending on levels and equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Why is this important? And... How can we exactly tell what an attempt is?(would have been possible in rsc, but not really now) The thread really makes little sense and has no implications. People(apart from grimy, but even for him it requires interest) don't research useless stuff. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdotzip Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Couldn't you just take already proven average experience rates/hr and divide them by the the amount of experience each resource provides to get a rough approximation of how long it takes to get one specific resource? Seems like you're doing things ass-backwards. Who would need information about how long it takes to gather x log with a bronze hatchet anyways? You should always use the best tool you can for your level. my youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Interesting idea. Moved this to metagame discussion as it is an active research topic. Xpx, an idea may not be interesting to you, but it may to some people. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Gathering this information is useless because the knowledge is useless. Even if you had the success rate, how would you apply it to get faster exp/hr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Interesting idea. Moved this to metagame discussion as it is an active research topic. Xpx, an idea may not be interesting to you, but it may to some people.And this is exactly why i'm asking the questions. I'm aware of communities that actively focus on research(clearly not tip.it) and those are very important questions about any topic of relevant research. If you can't answer the questions, you are likely doing something wrong. The OP doesn't sound at all like he has had any experience at all in doing things like this. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I don't have much experience in this, which is why we should figure this out...a lot of people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4ylan Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I don't have much experience in this, which is why we should figure this out...a lot of people don't. What he's trying to say is that there's no point. There no purpose in finding this information. ~~~The Harpy List~~~Harpy Facts~~~It's Super Effective~~~The Beginning~~~Harpy Therapy Center~~~Alg~~~Jedi Harpy~~~Rohirrim~~~Attenuation~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakalolo_mon Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Why is this important? And... How can we exactly tell what an attempt is?(would have been possible in rsc, but not really now) The thread really makes little sense and has no implications. People(apart from grimy, but even for him it requires interest) don't research useless stuff. I'm harpooning tuna/swords atm and high alching them. Watching the xp counter, anytime I catch a bunch in a row they come in at the same time intervals, so that would be how fast the "attempts" are. I find this interesting, but not really important enough to do any hard research. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 It's something thats never been done and runescape has been around for 10+ years, so it's about time that it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghjkl Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Why should it?What benefit does it give us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 It's something thats never been done and runescape has been around for 10+ years, so it's about time that it should be done.There are ridiculously many things that haven't been done, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to do them, much less research them. To me, you are having a tough time selling your idea. If you really are interested in research i would suggest getting in tough with grimy bunyip- he has alot of topics in which research is actively being carried out and has been deemed relevant. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 it doesnt have to benefit us. youll just feel good that youve solved something that hasnt been solved for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 it doesnt have to benefit us. youll just feel good that youve solved something that hasnt been solved for 10 years.rs2 hasn't been around for 10 years, and the mechanics changed between rsc and rs2. And, as said, i'm not buying your ideas. Xp/h figures seem infinitely more useful to me. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 This isn't going to be used for much, if anything. It's just something that I want to see cracked open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 it doesnt have to benefit us. youll just feel good that youve solved something that hasnt been solved for 10 years.rs2 hasn't been around for 10 years, and the mechanics changed between rsc and rs2. And, as said, i'm not buying your ideas. Xp/h figures seem infinitely more useful to me.Yes, just take xp/h figures. If you want to know how many fish or ore you can get per hour, just do the math from there. A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 I know that, I'm not stupid, I want to figure this out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I know that, I'm not stupid, I want to figure this out though.We understand your enthusiasm, but you are really not putting up a strong case for why anyone else should help you, least of all doing anything yourself. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trill Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 For Math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 The only research that would need to be done is finding the number of game ticks between receiving resources. From there the success rate could be easily calculated from an exp/hr rate, which have already been researched many times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 This research is in fact on my to do list, so I am interested.If you can acquire data, I would be more than happy to tabulate it for you. Ideally you would collect data with either bronze or dragon tools.And you would want your woodcutting/mining/fishing/etc levels to be as low as possible.Ideally you could drain them to 1 somehow, but I am not sure how aside from disease (which is possible but tedious). anyways if you need more details, contact me in game, through pm, or through skype.PM me if you want my skype name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotmania505 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Wouldn't this data would be quite useful in determining the usefulness of stat boosts? It seems like a worthy endeavor to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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