Ieyfura Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 xbox=failbox...I was going to get 1...then I saw what they were offering at E3 and gamescon...poor Microsoft :( Sony stomped the [cabbage] out of them in the press conferences in both events. *sigh* "Don't get in my face, don't invade my space. I'll put you in your place.I'll only tell you once, I'll never tell you twice. This is me being nice." ~Porcelain and the Tramps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 If you commited a murder, and you were put to death, where is justice? All I see in that scenario is two murderers. If murder is a sin, then commiting murder in retaliation absolutely increases the sin.But if you commited several murders and you were emotionally incapasitated? Anyways it's kind of funny how you keep using executions in your examples when I'm talking about something else, my great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was the last Norwegian headsman.But what you are suggesting is still equivilant. You are removing somebody from the world, and that is no different from murder. The only change is that the body persists in your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 They still persist too, they just change, else you could say you kill someone by castrating them. You change who they are, how they act, what they feel, you do not kill them. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Becoming a mindless drone used for experiments or labour is no better than death, in my eyes. Boy, this topic sure is depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 You don't become mindless, you become somewhat emotionless. You are still able to think, decide and learn, you just can't feel anger, sadness and happiness. Before you rant on the lack of happiness, if you kill say a family, would you ever again truly feel happiness again unless your mind was completely [bleep]ed up? No, what one does as a bi-effect of the surgery is rather to remove the sensation guilt and regret of the offender, leaving them a better life than they left themselves. Actually what you do is create some of the symptoms of a severe case of autism in the offender. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Urrrrr last time I checked it was considered inhumane to remove someones emotions. Or eff around with their mind, cause you know, it's been considered worse than death.. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Who can say wether it is worse than death? It might be worse for those around them, but the patients are incapable of missing their emotions since that is an emotion too.And last time I checked regret was the worst emotion one could have. If they were mentally healthy before comiting multiple homicides then the regret of doing so is the worst torture there is, it'd break down their psyche and leave them either as sulking lunatics, aggressive and unstable lunatics or their brain would actually shutdown emotions by itself. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I would think that feeling anything at all is better than feeling nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Nex, That's a no for me. I think it'll just be another play for a lucrative series. I may try it though, which may change my views on the matter. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 You would rather feel pain than not at all? You would rather regret and miss what you once had than knowing you had it but not feel any loss for it? You would rather be able to remember how joy was and know you could never feel it again than to just know you had it? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 If you think emotions are so invalid, then why don't you just remove your own :S? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Because drilling into your own forehead is not something you just do. And yes I feel emotions are uninmportant, I haven't felt true joy for over one and a half year, and since the spring I have barely felt anything but sadness and loss. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Murder = Unlawful killing with malice aforethought (In common law countries, which includes the US and probaly the UK)Death penalty = Killing sanctioned by law, therefore not murder Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 oh mather, seriously dude 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I'm not considdering it, I'm just saying emotions are not that important. But yeah, my life as of lately is pretty messed up. EDIT: Wise words: Life is like a bar of iron, if you want to make something out of it you got to melt it down and hammer it into shape. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 of course your emotions are important you [wagon] just cause you experience bad ones doesn't mean they are not defining who you are 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Emotions are what help you find out who you are, without them you are still yourself, only more stable. In some cases you're better off without them. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 RPing a cold masochist isnt humourous m8 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I'm not RPing, did you think that was a quote? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 of course you're not, that's not what i meant 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Good, because I truly feel that lobotomy is not by far the worst thing you could do to a serial killer. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 what 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Didn't you know that was all this dicussion was about? Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul191600 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I want to, link? Is this it? http://inuscreepystuff.blogspot.com/2010/09/majora.htmlYep, sure is. How do your childhood memories of playing Zelda feel now? The sour dough of the epitmous pie hungers for another's sweet lips to be dulled into a state of most irreverant humblenessTUBULAR BELLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I think I had a hacked Pokemon gold cartridge before. It sort of went all wierd but then I stopped playing and lost it. Probably just broken anyway. And Mather, I think you're misguided here. Without emotion, there is no desire. Without desire, there is no progress, and without progress, there is stagnation. Without emotion, mankind cannot even hope that it has purpose, there is nothing keeping anything going, and the march of time all but stops. Emotion is the only thing that seperates us from a machine which is programmed only to die after a certain period of time has passed. Would you like to be a machine, Mather? Would you like to lose your ability to think freely and dream, to become a drone with no purpose but to eventually die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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