2007 - Old School RuneScape... You Vote! - [It's Here!]

[teknofield]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

[Warlover]

If you read the post you'd realize clan chat is gonna be there. The in-game content will be gone, but you should expect more technical things to exist. Full screen, probably some high def option, clan chat, updated log out timer will all happen. Deposit X and Make X features might be implemented at some point.

 

Lastly, most quests in incredibly vague. From what I recall there were a decent amount of quests back then. Also, should this be popular enough, I fully expect some sequel quests to be implemented.

 

65 less quests if you want precision. And just because I didn't remember every detail of the post doesn't mean I didn't read it.

 

High def came with the runetek 4 engine which came about in 2009. 2007 Runescape is Runetek 3. Remember that alot of players that miss 2007 RuneScape miss the poor graphics back then, if Jagex start updating them they will get pissy.

[Ginger_Warrior]

We know it dropped on average between 2008 and 2012. We don't know when that drop actually happened between those two dates, because there's no data points inbetween. Therefore we can't deduce when, or therefore for what reason, the number of RuneScape members started significantly dropping.

 

Is it really that hard to understand how utterly unreliable and useless the graph you provided is?

[Tansuo]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

 

SHUT UP ALREADY AND REALISE THE BIGGER PICTURE.

[Fallstar]

Assuming 10th August 2007 is the backup, 2007scape wont have the following:

• Most Quests - Aside from the Mahjarrat Questline, I haven't found most recent quests particularly enjoyable. Far too much hand-holding.
  
• GWD - Neutral about this.
  
• Only Karamja Task Diary - Tasks are silly. If people want to complete content, let them complete it. They shouldn't feel forced to grind through something they don't enjoy just because it's in a task set.
  
• Ourania RCing - This will be missed.
  
• Clan Chat - 90% + of my communication on RS is using SwiftIRC.
  
• Assist's or Item lending - If you want to do something, get the levels for it, don't rely on others. Same with items.
  
• Summoning - Was never implemented particularly well. Familiar AI was shocking bad, and whilst powerful, most familiars are tedious to use.
  
• Dungeoneering - Will miss this.
  
• GE - Better margins without this, not going to complain.
  
• Clan Wars or Bounty Hunter - Both completely dead/non existent.
  
• D&D's - Will miss these.
  
• Logout Timer @ 90 seconds instead of 5 minutes again? - Not bothered, I have no problem logging out.
  
• Soul Wars - Botted to oblivion, effectively unplayable.
  
• Deposit All - Will miss this.
  
• Most Make-X features - Definitely won't miss this. I'll enjoy being rewarded more for putting more effort in with faster skilling (fewer ticks per action).
  
• High level herblore e.g Overloads - Not bothered. Overloads are only necessary for fairly recent updates.
  
• Kuradel and her Dungeon - Not bothered. Pre-EoC you barely used it anyway if you understood the slayer skill and used a cannon.
  
• Strykewyrms - Extremely irritating mechanic with forcing them to come out of the ground, will be happy to see them gone.
  
• Slayer Challenges - You don't do Jad tasks anymore anyway, so /care.
  
• RuneSpan - Glad this won't be in there.
  
• Bonfires - ^
  
• Lodestones - Will miss this.
  
• Etc...
  

So yeah... Should be interesting to see what the 2007 version players miss from the modern version when they are playing.

 

My thoughts in bold.

[teknofield]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

 

SHUT UP ALREADY AND REALISE THE BIGGER PICTURE.

 

THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT EVERYONE WANTS THE OLD RUNESCAPE BACK SIR! Jagex realizes it. They threw so much things at their players that were not needed. Everything was fine and dandy in 2007.

[Leik]

Assuming 10th August 2007 is the backup, 2007scape wont have the following:

• Most Quests
  
• GWD
  
• Only Karamja Task Diary
  
• Ourania RCing
  
• Clan Chat
  
• Assist's or Item lending
  
• Summoning
  
• Dungeoneering
  
• GE
  
• Clan Wars or Bounty Hunter
  
• D&D's
  
• Logout Timer @ 90 seconds instead of 5 minutes again?
  
• Soul Wars
  
• Deposit All
  
• Most Make-X features
  
• High level herblore e.g Overloads
  
• Kuradel and her Dungeon
  
• Strykewyrms
  
• Slayer Challenges
  
• RuneSpan
  
• Bonfires
  
• Lodestones
  
• Etc...
  

So yeah... Should be interesting to see what the 2007 version players miss from the modern version when they are playing.

 

Yeah, screw that lol. Absolutely no chance in hell I'd play RS without all of that.

 

I honestly don't see the appeal to 2006 or 07 or whatever RS. Maybe it is because PKing was more exciting? But apart from that I don't really understand what's so great about it.

[Plasma]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

 

Unfortunately there is, because Jagex is insisting not to abandon EOC.

 

It seems like this will go the ways of rsc. I remember when rs2 came out and everyone was enraged because you could now eat during combat and how having special attacks took the skill out of pking. So they released a dedicated server and the vast majority of players do not play it now.

[Tansuo]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

 

SHUT UP ALREADY AND REALISE THE BIGGER PICTURE.

 

THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT EVERYONE WANTS THE OLD RUNESCAPE BACK SIR! Jagex realizes it. They threw so much things at their players that were not needed. Everything was fine and dandy in 2007.

 

[God Of Lego]

To be honest, with a large development team (speaking as if 750k yes) I can see them adding quests in as monthly updates. (voted in, choosen by players)

 

The main thing i will miss is quests other than that. Idc.

 

What I would of hoped for live RS oneday is.

 

Pre-EoC and no GE.

 

I think these 2 are key features in what made RS as strong as it was back then.

[().-.]

God, I'm just looking forward to proper scimitars. :razz:

[teknofield]

God, I'm just looking forward to proper scimitars. :razz:

 

Proper whips as well!

[Estoc]

After thinking about this, I decided I would be voting no (err not voting) for 2007scape. I think in terms of future growth it needs to either EOC -OR- preEOC and not some middle ground. With the options given, I would rather them spend the resources to fix the current game rather than split it between two games.

 

There is no future with EOC folks. Face it. Only the minority like it. Everyone else hates it, and on Friday i'll let the community speak for itself.

 

SHUT UP ALREADY AND REALISE THE BIGGER PICTURE.

 

THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT EVERYONE WANTS THE OLD RUNESCAPE BACK SIR! Jagex realizes it. They threw so much things at their players that were not needed. Everything was fine and dandy in 2007.

 

Making a 2007 server does not mean they will be bringing back 2007 Runescape, it means that they will be deleting all updates that happened after 2007.

[God Of Lego]

God, I'm just looking forward to proper scimitars. :razz:

 

Proper whips as well!

 

Heck all reworks on armour and weapons look childish these days. The old Dragon longsword will be a lovely sight to see.

[Kaida23]

Maybe it is because PKing was more exciting?

Except there really won't be any PK'ing to speak of at the beginning, just a bunch of level 10's duking it out in black armor. Doesn't sound all that great to me.

[Fallstar]

Yeah, screw that lol. Absolutely no chance in hell I'd play RS without all of that.

 

I honestly don't see the appeal to 2006 or 07 or whatever RS. Maybe it is because PKing was more exciting? But apart from that I don't really understand what's so great about it.

 

People who want hiscores with a degree of integrity. I quote "We wouldn’t ever add any micropayment updates." They've had no problem smashing the RWT rules into little pieces once, so I know this doesn't mean much, but they have been pretty frank about SoF and SGS recently, so who knows?

 

People who enjoy all types of PVP. Not just wilderness PKing, but staking too. Before the EoC, the arena would have around 100-200 players at peak times staking. You'd constantly get the message "All arenas are full, try again later." Nowadays there's usually a skeleton crew of C4's minions and perhaps a dozen other stakers. Every single staker I've spoken to (not an exaggeration) is extremely excited about this.

 

People who enjoyed the game when you didn't get free xp, coins and resources left, right and centre.

 

People who liked the game balance back then, when the high end gear didn't require vast amounts of time, or exploitation of free trade, to acquire.

 

Also, people who liked it when RS was a medieval fantasy MMO, not some [bleep]ing dress up game.

 

Missed a daily dg challenge to type this up :(

 

Wasn't worth it.

[muggiwhplar]

Ice barrage will be expensive as [bleep] again. Not sure if I want to get 99 range/mage/defense for a 3rd time lol

[Ginger_Warrior]

Ice barrage will be expensive as [bleep] again. Not sure if I want to get 99 range/mage/defense for a 3rd time lol

You could do your Jad vid again. Just sayin'.

 

Nothing in 2007scape about monogamy either. ;)

[Fallstar]

Buying out bolt racks before the first waves of people start attempting Jad for sure :D

[teknofield]

Here's a list of significant things that will not be included in the 2007 servers that somebody had put on Reddit.

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Bosses

• God Wars Dungeon
  
• Corporeal Beast
  
• Tormented Demons
  
• Glacors
  

Quests

• All quests above and including Path of Glouphrie in the full list of quests
  
• Legacy of Seergaze (+ Branches of Darkmeyer)
  
• Spirit of Summer (+ Summer's End)
  
• Temple at Senntisten
  
• Nomad's Requiem
  
• Most of the Void series (Void Dance onward)
  
• While Guthix Sleeps (+ Ritual of the Mahjarrat)
  
• Smoking Kills
  

Skills

• Summoning
  
• Dungeoneering
  
• Your current skills
  
• "Grimy" Herbs (They will be "unids")
  
• ZMI Altar
  
• Slayer Reward Points
  
• Herblore Habitat and Juju potions
  

Combat

• High level potions (Super Antifire, Extremes, Overloads, Renewals)
  
• Kuradel
  
• Surge spells
  
• Ancient Curses
  
• Dragon Defender
  
• Damage Soaking
  
• Autocasting without a staff, autocasting god spells and Iban Blast
  
• Dragon Claws, Godswords, and Chaotics
  
• A working combat triangle
  

Minigames

• Fist of Guthix
  
• Stealing Creation
  
• Soul Wars
  
• Conquest
  
• Clan Wars
  

Distractions and Diversions

• Fish Flingers
  
• Familiarization
  
• Balthazar Beauregard's Big Top Bonanza
  
• craptered Heart (aka "Strange Rocks")
  
• Court Cases
  

Miscellaneous

• The Grand Exchange
  
• All Acheivement Diaries and Task Sets except Easy, Medium, and Hard Karamja
  
• Orb of Oculus (no 2007 machinima)
  
• No cooldown for Home Teleport (was 30 minutes)
  
• Max, Completion, and Milestone capes
  
• All rares (Not because rares were post-2007, but rather because everyone will start from scratch on 2007scape)
  

Banks

• Tabs
  
• Search
  
• Deposit/Withdraw X
  
• Bank space counter
  
• Left-click Bank (instead of Talk)
  
• Money pouch
  
• Price checker
  

Game Mechanics

• LootShare and CoinShare
  
• RuneScape HD
  
• Item Lending
  
• In-game world selection/hopping
  
• Photo Booth / Forum Avatars
  
• DirectX mode This means that certain game recording software such as Fraps will not be able to hook into RS2007
  
• Z-buffering, a major animation update
  
• Bank equip screen
  
• Separate clan and friends chats
  
• Any game language other than English
  
• XP tracker and pop-ups
  

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[Darth Fatguy]

ALL OF MY YES

 

Although, it'd be a bit of a waste if we don't reach at least 500k votes. I doubt very many people would be happy to pay the extra money and it'd end up costing Jagex pretty badly.

[Viv]

I'm not voting for now. Tbh yes its good to have nostolgia over a game but mmos change. The nostolgia over games are usually memories had while playing that game though there are some truly good games out there that stand the test of time. 2007 rs stood the test of time it turned into 2008 rs(summoning!!) 2009 rs(kuradel and various slayer updates including herblore pots and extremes) 2010 rs (dungeoneering halla) 2011 rs(effigiescape totally), 2012 rs(its ok, they did have to introduce microtransactions and eoc but stuff happens), 2013 rs(looking forward to the two new skills to get 99 in otherwise not much time to play) I grew up alot during that period irl so yea my opinions towards the game changed. The people/attitude people had in 2007 won't come back, 16 year old me won't come back. Honestly no ge was a pain in the ass lol.

 

It might be fun for some competitions starting fresh but other than that not really. The classic servers aren't really massively popular because you know what the game got better. I think the downwardness in players doesnt neccessarily have to do with the game but many people growing older and leaving the game versus people that are growing up and leaving the game.

 

From a new player perspective RS isn't the best choice for an mmo. The game is improving but not at a fast enough pace. However it does have the audience that played for years and are still playing.

 

Anyway yea there are much more games to be nostalgic about besides old rs.

[Arcley]

Also, people who liked it when RS was a medieval fantasy MMO, not some [bleep]ing dress up game.

Definitely agree with all of these points, but I'd still be sad to give up all the quests they released since 2007. It's fairly specific features that feel like they don't belong, but I always liked the actual game content, even in the last few years.

[abellus]

I haven't played the game in 3+ years and I'm voting yes.

 

Generation Y praises the current Runescape as a vast improvement, I don't see the appeal. I quit this game because I saw Runescape becoming far too "dressed up" (as fallstar beautifully puts it), kiddish, and commercialized.

 

I may sound like a cranky old geyser, but I truly believe 2006scape was the best scape. 2007 is a nice deal, and is about the time Jagex starting losing their touch with reality, but it's still an early enough date to enjoy the oldschool foundations of Runescape.

 

2013 Runescape has got neat graphics... whoopdi [bleep]in do? I'd trade in graphics for gameplay any day.

[Equenox]

This graph and related discussion is pointless because it's simply not relevant. The release of 2007 servers does not mean that every player who played then will return, I'd be surprised if a twentieth did. The point of this poll is to provide less biased statistical evidence to indicate the interest in releasing servers from 2007, nothing else.

 

Argue about number all you want once we have the relevant data, but membership numbers are really not a useful measure of interest here, in the same way that the interest you perceptive is not relevant.

 

I really hope people use this poll as it should be used - if YOU are interested, register your interest. If you're not, sit out and don't let people pressure you into voicing support for something you don't want, as it won't provide Jagex with the information they need to let them offer this service in a way that is best for the majority players, and them as a business.

 

There is a correlation. 06-07 was the peak of RS. Why did it magically drop after 08? It's to the result of Jagex's actions that failed miserably. Jagex wants to see if they could get back some of their members with 2007 servers.

 

Edit: AND if a lot of players do come back, then Jagex will probably dismantle this new RS for the old one. Money talks folks. They have to see what works for them, and right now the noise is for the 474 client.

wat even

Your graph has absolutely no data between late 2007 and late 2012. At most what you can deduce is that RuneScape, like every other game on that graph is experiencing a gradual decline in player base. However, trying to attribute this decline to a particular update is absolutely awful use of awful statistics.

 

You're basing your analysis on what you want to be true, with no supporting evidence. In a weeks time feel free to analyse the results from the upcoming survey, becase that will at least provide a measure of interest in these servers. However, to be frank at the moment you're talking out of your arse. There is no reason to believe these servers will ever become more popular than live, and I would be astounded if it had a bigger playerbase than the modern game on the day of release, let alone in the long term.

 

If you have any meaningful, valid evidence to show that "right now the noise is for the 474 client", or that the 2007 servers will attract the majority of the playerbase from that era back to the game then by all means present it, but otherwise stop trying because you're only making a fool of yourself.