Sorry Tim

 

Master wand + Mage's book crit with Wrack: 1674-1727

Wizard wand + book crit with Wrack: 1299

 

Air surge loaded

Sorry Tim

 

Master wand + Mage's book crit with Wrack: 1674-1727

Wizard wand + book crit with Wrack: 1299

 

Air surge loaded

 

So that is just another EoC bug. Or is it a feature now?

Why would it be a feature for a level 1 weapon and a level 90 weapon to have the same damage?

gonna try that with Ahrim's when i get home

Why would it be a feature for a level 1 weapon and a level 90 weapon to have the same damage?

 

The 'bug' is that they do not have the same damage.

Your masterwand/book figure is almost identical to the theoretical value of air surge's wrack crit

 

Theoretical is 1646 (794+99)*1.5*1.25

 

Which means that at least t60 do not cap t80 damage. Somehow wizard wand is doing 30% damage than it should have been...

Tried my hand at this boss thing, made it to the last wave couple times but was last 2-3 standing so no luck on kills. Any suggestions on taking less damage during minion (3rd) phase?

I was in the same team as birdd and managed to get to fourth/third several times. The main problem we had was that those minis hit us hard and fast. Spam clicking rockies didn't help me from dying pretty much. What's the main tactic to use? Anyone knows?

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Pretty sure they said that same thing with qbd and they ended up not returning any items.

Cue all the BS claims of full Torva, Drygore sets, Assbows and Seismic Wands in graves.

Cue all the BS claims of full Torva, Drygore sets, Assbows and Seismic Wands in graves.

Then those people will really lose items, and not get a chance to have them refunded. \:D/

Your masterwand/book figure is almost identical to the theoretical value of air surge's wrack crit

 

Theoretical is 1646 (794+99)*1.5*1.25

 

Which means that at least t60 do not cap t80 damage. Somehow wizard wand is doing 30% damage than it should have been...

T1 staff (air staff) comes to 1327-1358 crits with Wrack on air surge, pretty close to wizard wand+book crits. Pretty sure it's intended that lower tiered magic weapons aren't supposed to be hitting as hard as higher tiered counterparts.

 

Unless you're saying that wizard wand+book are actually overhitting for their tier? Probably some scaling system for magic damage if you use undertiered weapons compared to a spell.

Note the fps. :lol:

Your masterwand/book figure is almost identical to the theoretical value of air surge's wrack crit

 

Theoretical is 1646 (794+99)*1.5*1.25

 

Which means that at least t60 do not cap t80 damage. Somehow wizard wand is doing 30% damage than it should have been...

T1 staff (air staff) comes to 1327-1358 crits with Wrack on air surge, pretty close to wizard wand+book crits. Pretty sure it's intended that lower tiered magic weapons aren't supposed to be hitting as hard as higher tiered counterparts.

 

Unless you're saying that wizard wand+book are actually overhitting for their tier? Probably some scaling system for magic damage if you use undertiered weapons compared to a spell.

 

You already showed wand and book overhitting their tier by showing that Master Wand and book hit for their theoretical value of air surge wrack critical, so it would seem to me that dual wield, as it is with ranged, is based on the 'ammo' of the attack, and that alone (the ammo in this case being the spell), the difference between Magic and Ranged is that equipment does not limit what spell you cast, while ranged do (they all have a maximum bolt they can fire). All I am saying, and am going to see if I can either prove that this is either true or false.

 

The justification of lower tier things hitting lower boggles me because the % and the tier difference makes no sense (it seems very random).

If it is any kind of hope. I was using treachery wand and ahrims book, with blood barrage at zammy GWD and kills were a lot slower and hit a lot less.. :(

looks awesome!

Note the fps. :lol:

 

I had about the same FPS. Or worse. He's a new guy taking a lot of effort. I love this boss fight so far! Not cooler than Nex though.

 

For all of those complaining about 1hit-KOs; Do you really think it is that terrible now when Vorago is released? Because except the red stone bombs (which can hit up to 6k if other players are around the one getting hit), the initial challenge thing and the fire-charge that you have to stand behind a waterfall not to get hit up to 9k on, there are no more 1-hit-Ko attacks. And the initial challenge one doesn't really count towards the fight itself. I'm not completely sure a 6k hit is a KO either. It shouldn't be if you have proper gear and a shield.

 

And about that PM, I was trying to kill Vorago with my team at that time as well. This is how it went:

 

 

WOOT! First Vorago kill done ;)

Teach me your ways, Master.

With regards to the damage thing with dual wield, I take every part of it back, my tests show that Weapon tier DO affect damage, but It's much smaller when compared to other styles (but this is only true up to t80)

 

All of the following are Fire surge wrack crit ranges, the bracket means average:

 

T80: 1791 ~ 1870 (1828)

T70: 1721 ~ 1804 (1767)

T60: 1662 ~ 1715 (1685)

 

About 5% per 10 tier difference

That's neglectable almost though accuracy makes up for it.

It's enough to convince majority of the people who are looking for an upgrade.

 

But, as I mentioned, that pattern only works up to T80, what happens to Seismic is anyone's guess. Knowing Jagex, it may completely deviate from this pattern

Will be like 2700 or something lel (but really look at drygore's median compared to chaotic :>)

Melee works slightly differently because the damage come from the weapon, unlike magic, so there is no grey area if you will regarding damage. The grey area of magic is what happens if you have a higher tier spell equipped than your weapon (for both ranged and melee, that doesn't happen)

Now I'm wondering if the dominion staff is working as intended, or whether it can be used to work something out.