Dragon legs cost more than dragon chain?!

[Hawty_Wins_Ya]

 

 

That makes sense really considering that the rune chain is 50k whilst the rune legs are 65k. If the shops made the price based on how rare they were then maybe it would be the other way round.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly. Legs are worth more than chain in any armor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now if only the price actually reflected that, I might be able to buy the chain I've been saving so hard for :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly. Same with skirt (which has same price as legs... why the heck would it be less to shop?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's easy to forget that just because an item SELLS for more, doesn't mean that it's "worth" more, even though d legs are far easier to get than the d chain is (well, unless you consider dust devils).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dustdevils are in no way, an easy form in which to get a dragon chain. I've killed 23k of them myself and only gotten one chain. I got it at around 15k kills and am still wondering how I even got that lucky.

[Lets_3ekout]

 

 

 

That makes sense really considering that the rune chain is 50k whilst the rune legs are 65k. If the shops made the price based on how rare they were then maybe it would be the other way round.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly. Legs are worth more than chain in any armor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now if only the price actually reflected that, I might be able to buy the chain I've been saving so hard for :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly. Same with skirt (which has same price as legs... why the heck would it be less to shop?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's easy to forget that just because an item SELLS for more, doesn't mean that it's "worth" more, even though d legs are far easier to get than the d chain is (well, unless you consider dust devils).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dustdevils are in no way, an easy form in which to get a dragon chain. I've killed 23k of them myself and only gotten one chain. I got it at around 15k kills and am still wondering how I even got that lucky.

 

 

 

actually oddfaery2 said d chain is easier to get EXCEPT dusties. dunno if metal drags are harder or easier then k.q. though.

[Hawty_Wins_Ya]

Why do you try to prove me wrong? Oddfaery said something like .. "d legs are way easier to get then d chain (well unless you count dust devils)" Now anyone who knows proper grammar knows that would mean that he is saying that unless you count dustdevils, d legs are easier to get then chain. Which would, in conclusion, mean that he is saying getting a d chain with dust devils is easier then getting d legs with metal drags.

[jwrm22]

not verry weird...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rune cain: 50k

 

 

 

rune legs: 60k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

shop price...

 

 

 

and why would dragon cain then be more then dragon legs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

etleast its harder to get... but its prob. the same as real rares...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you try to prove me wrong? Oddfaery said something like .. "d legs are way easier to get then d chain (well unless you count dust devils)" Now anyone who knows proper grammar knows that would mean that he is saying that unless you count dustdevils, d legs are easier to get then chain. Which would, in conclusion, mean that he is saying getting a d chain with dust devils is easier then getting d legs with metal drags.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its 1:10000 or something on dust evils... and i saw ppl killing the kq in least then 2min... (10 min / trip) but they where lvl 120+ :?

[Barihawk]

The reason that Chain is worth more than legs on the street is because the runescape economy is run by 12-year olds. Premise: If it looks good, its expensive...however impracticle it may be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain to me once more why inferior armor and paper hats make up the ceiling? Trust me, there are not as rare as people let on.

[DarkDude]

The reason that Chain is worth more than legs on the street is because the runescape economy is run by 12-year olds. Premise: If it looks good, its expensive...however impracticle it may be.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explain to me once more why inferior armor and paper hats make up the ceiling? Trust me, there are not as rare as people let on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, it's worth more than legs because It's harder to get. Basicly every man and their dog can kill metal dragons and the drop rate is pretty high, where as with chain you have to kill a harder monster, takes longer to kill, people don't constantly kill the KQ although the drop rates are probably the same as legs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's about 4 people killed Metals on Each server, in about what? 40 Members servers, that's 160 people killing Metal Dragons. Whereas There's only ONE kalphite queen per server, and not everyone is killing her consantly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's probably around 8000 Metal Dragons killed her Hour, and if the drop rate is around 1/256 then that's roughly 31 Legs per Hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With the Kalphite queen on the other had, say she's being killed on half of the servers, that's 20. And you can kill roughly 6 queens per hour, That's 120 Kalphite Queens dying per hour, and if the drop rate is 1/256 then that's 1 Chain every 2 hours, quite a big difference don't you think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's why the price of Chain and Legs is so different, There are roughly 62 x more pairs of Dragon Legs in the game then chains, ofcourse that is not correct, but you can see where I'm comming from.

[Barihawk]

Then explain to me why everyone seems to post that Jagex put the Chain into the game as a status symbol?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am sure that if everyone who wanted a chain and had the means (combat for Queen or slayer for dust devils) went out and tried to get one, they would probably get one after a hard month's work. Considering the current prices, that is well worth it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, everyone just buys one for rediculously inflated prices...because it is easier. That is why the Chain is so rare. There are so few people earning them and so many wanting to buy one. The people earning them are doing it less-so for themselves and more just to make a quick buck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides, there is the slayer skill. How many people who have the means skip over Kalphite (or just kill the workers and not the Queen) or skip the 200 Dust Devils? However, as you said, people love slaying the metal dragons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So my conclusion is that the prices are set because people are lazy. The situation could easily be changed and Chain prices would drop because everyone who wanted one has it.

[drgnslyer_15]

after reading the flames at the begining and the arguing man i should just throw my chain in a volcano or something... I knew that the legs were more than chain lack of a better thread title i entered the one i did to raise awareness for those who think cause d chain has higher street price that is protects higher.....

 

 

 

when it comes to dragon legs i can see the drop rate is more common than chain i got dragon legs second day they were out after like 40 irons... I have like 150+ kalphite Queen kills (where i actually got the kill) and no chain.. I killed a small amt of dustdevils with no chain( they are boring as sin) i am not complaining money comes and goes on this stupid game we play its just like life

 

 

 

Why did chains go up anyway when i first came over here from rsc they were like 10m i think it was then they went up (like party hats) to like 30m and now are still goin for like 25m steady... Its weird how things are... Like when i bought my yellow hat i paid 37.5m now they are like double that!!!! crazy insane economy Runescape has...

[DarkDude]

Either spend a month and not even get the item, or get the money for it and guarentee the item, I'd know which one i'd choose.

[indalecio]

Heheheh. There should be an entire forum for pointing out interesting little

 

 

 

facts like this. Which is to say ... you made your point, nice work, very

 

 

 

informative. Do we need 3 pages about it though?

[Myweponsg00d]

O RLY?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To all the people who said "OMG NOOB LOL CHAIN IN EVERYTHING ELSE IS WORTH MORE THAN PLATE LEGGINGS LOL!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah?! Well how bout this. In all the other metals, the plate legs are worth more than the square. Yet in this case the square is almost twice as much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No need to compare it to other metals...d chain should be worth more than the legs. End of story.

[oddfaery2]

Why do you try to prove me wrong? Oddfaery said something like .. "d legs are way easier to get then d chain (well unless you count dust devils)" Now anyone who knows proper grammar knows that would mean that he is saying that unless you count dustdevils, d legs are easier to get then chain. Which would, in conclusion, mean that he is saying getting a d chain with dust devils is easier then getting d legs with metal drags.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by easier I was referring to the concentration required and risk involved with the process, not so much the drop rates...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know with Dust Devils you generally have to kill thousands upon thousands before getting a chain, but you can AFK at dust devils, you don't need to watch your prayer and hp religiously, or worry about when to pot up, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Iron dragons you just have to watch your prayer pots and/or antifires, and you're pretty much set. You won't take any damage while fighting them as long as you pay attention to what you're doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

KQ, however, takes a lot more effort to fight, as you need to watch prayer, pots, and HP with much more detail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That was how my statement was intended... I wasn't belittling the time it generally takes to get a chain at devils... they're just not difficult to kill.

[TWIKK89]

gosh...wow ur dum.. if u were my son i'd slap u...though im a teenager, when has chain ever costed more then plate legs, NEVER!! gosh...first bush now u...

[pennywise]

gosh...wow ur dum.. if u were my son i'd slap u...though im a teenager, when has chain ever costed more then plate legs, NEVER!! gosh...first bush now u...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He means shop wise jerk...why dont people bother to actually READ the first posts..?

[Wozza]

 

 

 

 

 

omg thats so interesting...please help me before my brain explodes with excitement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so many crappy posts around these days. Anyone with a brain would know about the costs of dragon items already

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone with half a brain would ignore the thread instead of saying something unconstructive and make themselves sound like a big-headed moron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check your ego at the door, please.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well, excuse me...have u not just done the EXACT same thing. LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

erm... no actually he didn't. He was simply addressing your rude comment, is all. A comment that more or less was not needed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you hadn't noticed, his first post here was actually constructive. Yours, on the other hand, wasn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How was my post not constructive? do you guys enjoy reading noob crap on this forum? oh im sorry ill leave...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not really noob crap. Some people just focus more on the street value of items, rather then the general store values.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whether your noob little mind likes it or not... General store prices are extremely important to anyone who decides to go out pking. I for one would at least like to know what I lose if I'm carrying more then three items when I die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then again... morons like you probably don't have to worry about that since you're probably some lame 3 itemer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So yeah... see yourself out of the conversation. If it doesn't concern you and you have nothing constructive to add, you shouldn't bother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if anyone is stupid enough to go PK'ing with a dragon chain i guess i better shut up. Also, im sorry i didnt realise that the average IQ of the runescape player is too low to realise information like this out by themselves and they need everything spoon fed. Honestly, guides all over the place and noobs asking for help with absolutely everything.

[Y2g2003]

:roll: What do you expect out of 13 year olds?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop whining about it and let them do whatever it is they choose to do. This topic is at least constructive to a decent degree. There are worse topics out there that you should be complaining about (IE: The stupid Haunted mine topic).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And people say I'm always negative... Guess they haven't met you yet. LOL! Boy do I pitty them when they do... Well actually... scratch that... those morons deserve to get flamed, even if it is by you. :lol:

[bflat0]

Now here is something that makes me wonder...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't look too much into general store prices... but is the Dragon Skirt the same price as the plate legs? Or cheaper?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You would think the skirt is just a tad cheaper, but thats just me I guess. NOw that I'm looking at the smithing tables, I doubt it. *shrugs*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Legs and skirt are always the same price... and legs and skirt are higher than chain because they afterall are plates rather than chainmail. Higher on the smithing table and as far as protection stats go... chain while not great is better against crushing attacks than any solid plate - rather strange because in reality chainmail was highly protecting against stabbing - especially arrows - while heavy plate armour more effective against blows. Hense is a game afterall so doesn't really matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As to player prices... heck we make them as a community - supply and demand. Prices have nothing to do with how good something is. I prefer being more practical and stick with my barrows cause these things are afterall tools.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As to the d-chain being in the game as a status symbol by Jagex. I don't think that's thier intent... fire cape, legend cape nd D hally are more if thier eyes a status symbol. The D-chain is just one of KQ's better drops.

 

 

 

Player's view it as a status symbol...

[Barihawk]

And people say I'm always negative... Guess they haven't met you yet. LOL! Boy do I pitty them when they do... Well actually... scratch that... those morons deserve to get flamed, even if it is by you. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will have to forgive Wozza, he has always been negative. Perhaps the only person he annoyed more than me was Shiva. Ah, the good times poking fun...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, this is a pretty constructive topic, and not everyone has the knowledge of the game as you, wozza. If you want pointless topics, head over to the haunted mine or stalk the rants forum. You would fit in very well there.

[Peronix]

Now here is something that makes me wonder...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't look too much into general store prices... but is the Dragon Skirt the same price as the plate legs? Or cheaper?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You would think the skirt is just a tad cheaper, but thats just me I guess. NOw that I'm looking at the smithing tables, I doubt it. *shrugs*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would stand to reason that they are exactly the same, because leg stats = skirt stats, and the price of bronze-addy legs/sirts in Louie and Sally's shop is the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's kind of rediculous IMO that skirt is so much cheape i comparison with legs. It has nothing to do with rarity, it's 100% supply and demand. Legs are exactly as rare as skirts to drop; people, including a lot of girls, prefer legs over skirt. The same story with D Med and all of the rest of the dragon items. D med is dropping so rapidly because people don't like it, and it's only a few points better than warrior helm. And the D Square seems to be dropping quite quickly, because people are diving headlong into the obby shield. And then chain is still as expensive as it is despite all of the people getting them from KQs and now DustDevils is because people really, really like them and they're a status symbol. They look infinatly cooler than any barrows armour piece, and are the best non-degradable armour piece. So, therefore, people pay those higher prices for them, even though they fail to realize that they are supposed to be lower than legs, even skirt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...okay I guess I kind of strayed off topic a bit there like I always do. I guess I did that because I have always known what protects over what; mystic top over whip, D long, scim, bxe over whip, all melee brother barrows over whip, D legs and Sq over chain, ect and the list goes on.

[Y2g2003]

 

And people say I'm always negative... Guess they haven't met you yet. LOL! Boy do I pitty them when they do... Well actually... scratch that... those morons deserve to get flamed, even if it is by you. :lol:

 

 

 

But yeah, this is a pretty constructive topic, and not everyone has the knowledge of the game as you, wozza. If you want pointless topics, head over to the haunted mine or stalk the rants forum. You would fit in very well there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:shock: OMG! Someone agrees with me! Is there a full moon out tonight? Its still sunny here, but man I'd love to know if there is. lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd like to think I have a decent amount of knowledge about the game, but even I didn't know about what items drop over one another. Course I didn't PK very often and would have never PKed in any form of Dragon armor, let alone Chain... but thats just me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So yeah, its nice to see some form of reference about it. I'm sure its a common mistake made since most people pay more attention to street prices then the value that Jagex gave it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would stand to reason that they are exactly the same, because leg stats = skirt stats, and the price of bronze-addy legs/sirts in Louie and Sally's shop is the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I pretty much concluded that at the end of my reply that you quoted. Same lvl to smith both (legs and skirts), so yeah, guess it makes sense that prices are the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Figured I'd post it even though I kind of answered my own question so people would take notice and not bother to ask the question.

[oddfaery2]

:roll: What do you expect out of 13 year olds?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop whining about it and let them do whatever it is they choose to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny you say that while at the same time...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the game, but I hate the community for the most part

 

 

 

Public Chat: OFF -- easy fix

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They still follow you. You act as if ignoring them helps when it obviously doesn't. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shouldn't have to deal with harrassment in general. Whether its verbal or someone just simply placing you on follow, trade spamming, or anything of the sort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hate these stupid clicḫ̩̉̉s that everyone uses. I shouldn't have to place private or public chat to friends or off. I should be able to be open to meet other people and chat, but without being harrassed by others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that too hard to comprehend, or do I have to go into further detail?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So... umm... What do you expect out of 13 year olds?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop whining about it and let them do whatever it is they choose to do.

[Y2g2003]

 

:roll: What do you expect out of 13 year olds?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop whining about it and let them do whatever it is they choose to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny you say that while at the same time...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the game, but I hate the community for the most part

 

 

 

Public Chat: OFF -- easy fix

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They still follow you. You act as if ignoring them helps when it obviously doesn't. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shouldn't have to deal with harrassment in general. Whether its verbal or someone just simply placing you on follow, trade spamming, or anything of the sort.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hate these stupid clicḫ̩̉̉s that everyone uses. I shouldn't have to place private or public chat to friends or off. I should be able to be open to meet other people and chat, but without being harrassed by others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that too hard to comprehend, or do I have to go into further detail?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So... umm... What do you expect out of 13 year olds?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop whining about it and let them do whatever it is they choose to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could care less, forum related.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe you should recognize the differences between in game and forums. There is a huge difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And do you have a crush on me or something? You really seem to like to quote me an awful lot... :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Just love how you take everything I say out of context. I'm beginning to think you have it in for me or something. But yeah... reread what I was addressing when I addressed you, then reread what I said when addressing Wozza. Two TOTALLY different things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For someone who is so big on grammar, you sure do lack reading comprehension.

[lordkrohn1626]

 

 

 

That makes sense really considering that the rune chain is 50k whilst the rune legs are 65k. If the shops made the price based on how rare they were then maybe it would be the other way round.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly. Legs are worth more than chain in any armor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now if only the price actually reflected that, I might be able to buy the chain I've been saving so hard for :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts exactly. Same with skirt (which has same price as legs... why the heck would it be less to shop?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's easy to forget that just because an item SELLS for more, doesn't mean that it's "worth" more, even though d legs are far easier to get than the d chain is (well, unless you consider dust devils).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dustdevils are in no way, an easy form in which to get a dragon chain. I've killed 23k of them myself and only gotten one chain. I got it at around 15k kills and am still wondering how I even got that lucky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

23k dusties? omg.....I don't know if I have the fortitude to do that :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What sickens me is my buddy got a chain on his third dustie assignment...sigh. :(

[oddguest]

Maybe you should recognize the differences between in game and forums. There is a huge difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And do you have a crush on me or something? You really seem to like to quote me an awful lot... :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Just love how you take everything I say out of context. I'm beginning to think you have it in for me or something. But yeah... reread what I was addressing when I addressed you, then reread what I said when addressing Wozza. Two TOTALLY different things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For someone who is so big on grammar, you sure do lack reading comprehension.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: I don't quote you any more than you quote me... but if you feel I'm "out to get you" or anything like that, it's all in your head...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for "taking things out of context" -- are you implying that immature children are going to act any differently on the forums than on the game?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Reading WAS my lowest score when I took the ACT, while I got a 36 (perfect) on the English section... go fig :roll: :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But thanks for noticing my use of proper grammar ;)

[Y2g2003]

 

 

 

As for "taking things out of context" -- are you implying that immature children are going to act any differently on the forums than on the game?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Reading WAS my lowest score when I took the ACT, while I got a 36 (perfect) on the English section... go fig :roll: :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But thanks for noticing my use of proper grammar ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Proper grammar isn't even half of it. You just whine about proper grammar a lot (or at least I've taken notice to it). If you even are oddfaery2... which I'm assuming you are. Why you're using a different user name to argue with me now makes about as much sense as what you're saying. Go figure... Since you are abbreviating figure with "fig"... makes it hard to believe you are who I think you are. Either way... if you are trying to emulate someone you're not... I'm sure thats grounds to get you banned. Might bring that up with the Admins there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as the first part. Making threads on a forum and harrassing individuals in game are again... as I said... two totally different things. The forums are where they really should be going. Not putting some random person on follow and bothering them. Forums are the most unique medium to get and find answers. And you really don't have to go out of your way to get such answers if you know where to look and how to properly use forums.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I have to spell this out any further I will... but I will let it be known that I am slowly starting to get tired of explaining my logic to someone who simply just isn't comprehending. Plus this topic is slowly starting to get off topic.