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I'd agree with you for all minus the point that vwand is "artificially" overpriced, considering it has a rarer droprate than other virtus gear and is the only wand even moderately obtainable for the average person. It's overpriced for what it should be, yes, but that price point is by no means artificial.

 

The only wand moderately obtainable if you ignore the fact wand of treachery is under 1m, ahrims wand is only 4m, master wand has settled at like 500k and grifolic at like 30k. So of course these wands are far far harder to get than 163m wand. Certainly these are lower level wands than 80, but for an average person they are certainly obtainable as is the option of the essentially free chaotic staff


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I don't understand why they refuse to just make a chaotic wand and book/orb available.

 

That way, they could just leave Virtus wand and book as weapons that don't degrade whilst also providing an alternative to people who don't want to/can't shell out 100m+ for a wand alone.

 

If it drives the price down in the process, that can only be a good thing as they're artificially overpriced anyway.

 

I have suggested that for a long time, as well as the discrepency between weapons and availability, but it seems o fall on deaf ears. So much for EoC actually balancing the tiers: where some weapons/armours are obtainable, while the others are ridiculously overpriced. Especially when good armour/weapons are actually a necessity for most boss hunting moneymaking. 

 

Still Virtus isn't that bad, I have a full V set (armour + wand + book) for a long time. It goes up and down, it seems.

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The only wand moderately obtainable if you ignore the fact wand of treachery is under 1m, ahrims wand is only 4m, master wand has settled at like 500k and grifolic at like 30k. So of course these wands are far far harder to get than 163m wand. Certainly these are lower level wands than 80, but for an average person they are certainly obtainable as is the option of the essentially free chaotic staff

I would've thought the fact that it's the only wand for the higher tiers that is moderately affordable, but damn if you didn't just prove me wrong.

 

There's a big difference in damage from t60 to t80 spells, that should go without saying.

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The only wand moderately obtainable if you ignore the fact wand of treachery is under 1m, ahrims wand is only 4m, master wand has settled at like 500k and grifolic at like 30k. So of course these wands are far far harder to get than 163m wand. Certainly these are lower level wands than 80, but for an average person they are certainly obtainable as is the option of the essentially free chaotic staff

I would've thought the fact that it's the only wand for the higher tiers that is moderately affordable, but damn if you didn't just prove me wrong.

 

There's a big difference in damage from t60 to t80 spells, that should go without saying.

Both Ahrim's and the Wand of Treachery are T70, but even they are much weaker than Virtus. I'm really hoping we get some T85 weapons with the PoP update but I don't see that happening.

 

Chances are, we'll just be getting a shield, buckler and book.


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Dungeon shields are T80, and T90 shields are coming out with barrows. I would imagine that T85 would prove moot if they were to come out


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Dungeon shields are T80, and T90 shields are coming out with barrows. I would imagine that T85 would prove moot if they were to come out

... thus guaranteeing that they will be released through Ports.

 

T85 boots and gloves from Ports would be useless as well, so with shields and t90 tank confirmed from Barrows, what's left for Ports? T85 weapons of all kinds, t90 2h weapons (plus shieldbows) of all styles, t80-85-90 amulet/ring/cape, t80-85-90 hybrid armour and t80 thrown/shieldbow.

 

I think anything under t85 is unlikely to be released through Ports, but t85 hybrid is a good candidate, as it's armour, has no near competitors (war-priest being 10 levels lower) and it's not (very) useful.


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Hybrid armour could potentially start to become useful at Lv. 85, considering it'd have the same armour and LP values at barrows, but for all three classes at once.

So it could be decent for slayer and stuff when you don't want to drop money on GWD sets.

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Hybrid armour could potentially start to become useful at Lv. 85, considering it'd have the same armour and LP values at barrows, but for all three classes at once.

So it could be decent for slayer and stuff when you don't want to drop money on GWD sets.

no it wouldn't. Rockshell etc would still be better for slayer, and there's nowhere that requires strong defense against all three styles.


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Hybrid armour could potentially start to become useful at Lv. 85, considering it'd have the same armour and LP values at barrows, but for all three classes at once.

So it could be decent for slayer and stuff when you don't want to drop money on GWD sets.

no it wouldn't. Rockshell etc would still be better for slayer, and there's nowhere that requires strong defense against all three styles.
DK's beg to differ.

 

Also, if Jagex had any sense (they don't) they would release at least one style of 2H T85 weapon for ports.

 

The weapons wouldn't damage the prices of the T90 weapons because they're dual wield and they'd still be five levels below them which negates the extra power that 2H generally has over dual wield.

 

But, it's going to go one of two ways. Either Jagex will release weapons through ports but make them suck ass through Jagex magic or they'll release utterly redundant equipment i.e. shields that serve little to no purpose at all.


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Hybrid armour could potentially start to become useful at Lv. 85, considering it'd have the same armour and LP values at barrows, but for all three classes at once.

So it could be decent for slayer and stuff when you don't want to drop money on GWD sets.

no it wouldn't. Rockshell etc would still be better for slayer, and there's nowhere that requires strong defense against all three styles.
DK's beg to differ.

 

Also, if Jagex had any sense (they don't) they would release at least one style of 2H T85 weapon for ports.

 

The weapons wouldn't damage the prices of the T90 weapons because they're dual wield and they'd still be five levels below them which negates the extra power that 2H generally has over dual wield.

 

But, it's going to go one of two ways. Either Jagex will release weapons through ports but make them suck ass through Jagex magic or they'll release utterly redundant equipment i.e. shields that serve little to no purpose at all.

 

If you're getting hit with melee at DKs, you're doing it wrong. Assuming that the new ports armor requires the same amount of effort to get as the current armor, DL would be better to use at DKs then T85 hybrid, and pernix would be just worse defensively (and better then either overall).

 

Also DW is better then 2H. 


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I wonder how we are going to fair in terms of update delays this week for the rebuildathon.

 

With the storm hitting southwest to east UK keeping people from getting to work and causing mass power outages we could end up seeing delays due to employee shortages and/or power outages. 

UK based game servers could also run the risk of sudden cut outs in this weather.


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I wonder how we are going to fair in terms of update delays this week for the rebuildathon.

 

With the storm hitting southwest to east UK keeping people from getting to work and causing mass power outages we could end up seeing delays due to employee shortages and/or power outages. 

UK based game servers could also run the risk of sudden cut outs in this weather.

 

I don't know. So far a few J mods seem to be reporting in on twitter this morning, so perhaps not affecting them too much.

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And it would be smart for them to have their own Generator...


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And it would be smart for them to have their own Generator...

 

It'd be smart for most business places to have their own generator, doesn't however mean everyone does because they are both expensive and require a lot of maintenance.


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Considering Cambridge is in the south east and the storm is worst in the west, I doubt there will be much disruption.


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Considering Cambridge is in the south east and the storm is worst in the west, I doubt there will be much disruption.

 

The storm hit the south west and moved north and eastwards right through East Anglia heading to Holland and the Netherlands.

Cambridgeshire, Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex etc all had amber warnings out for the winds, and mostly yellow for the rain.

Most rail services cancelled all services heading south towards London, and all trains out of London too were cancelled.

It was forecast to hit all these places hard around rush hour time with the train cancellations and tree falls certainly would causing disruption to commuting employees.

 

Admittedly the storm has since past and it ran out of steam much more than forecast before getting much past London, but it had the potential to cause a lot of disruption.


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Yeah, I live in East Anglia, and all we got was a few hours of rain and heavy winds.


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I am very much looking forward to Barrows Brothers Deluxe. I've always considered the Barrows and the Brothers themselves integral to RuneScape's unique lore, and it's nice for their story to finally be fleshed out.

I must admit, though... I'm rather disappointed that it doesn't sound as if we'll be getting "super" versions of existing Barrows equipment. Despite the redundancy of having 4 sets of equipment with equivalent stats, I was really hoping to get my hands on some "super" Torag's (historically my favorite set of equipment). I suppose I'm also disappointed that there are no T90 weapons accompanying this update. Ah well, that gives them room to introduce T90 Godswords or some shit.

 

As for the whole "ports update is dead-on-release" thing... Well, perhaps they could just release T85 power armor from Ports? And perhaps whatever level 90 armor from BBD will degrade to dust like Tectonic/Serenic? That way, Ports can supply relatively permanent but slightly weaker options. And honestly level 85 2H weapons from ports doesn't sound like a bad choice either. I'll be dreaming of a Tetsu Katana.

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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.



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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.

 

 

Where did you get that? I, for one, have never seen any speculation of POP weapons at all...


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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.

Where did you get that? I, for one, have never seen any speculation of POP weapons at all...

I believe one particularly large RSOF thread hasca lot of high expectations of it due to other katanas being in the game.



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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.

 

 

Where did you get that? I, for one, have never seen any speculation of POP weapons at all...

 

 

But we're scourging the eastern lands.

 

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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.

Where did you get that? I, for one, have never seen any speculation of POP weapons at all...

I believe one particularly large RSOF thread hasca lot of high expectations of it due to other katanas being in the game.

 

 

Wasn't that Bow-Sword from devious minds also linked to the eastern lands? Would be interesting to actually see hybrid weapons in-game, although there are a lot of other problems to solve first with the combat system.


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But they obviously won't do that though, that's the problem.

Following the level of hype post-release of POP I would be more inclinee to say you are wrong. A great deal of players expected weapons as well. This all assuming you were refering to POP weapons.

 

 

The part I was referring to was them making PoP stuff useless. I see no signs of them fixing that (even though it would be relatively easy to do). In fact, I have spoken to J-Mods about this, most of them don't even acknowledge that it's a problem. They all seem to think PoP is great, as is Tank/Power armour, and that there is nothing to fix. "Pop doesn't need the set effect we said it would get, it's already so great!", or "Don't want to make that Tank armour super broke, now do we?", "The set effects are best left to the Nex armours!" So no, I don't expect them to fix PoP by releasing T85 Pop armour or making Tank armour useful in the foreseeable future.

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