Future Update Discussions

[God Of Lego 162]

That would mean Zaros is an elder artifact himself? Possible link to his own power generation

[Wkw 452]

That would be possible

[cowmaster187 370]

But what is his use as an elder artifact, if every other elder artifact had a use to the elder gods in world building what was the use of zaros?

~~~legoman187~~~

[Kaur 331]

Any idea what the zaros concept art says?

 

The only one I can make out is

"when zaros speaks, his collar mask talks/moves"

[strilmus 753]

it basically describes specific details about the big hole zamorak left in him, and the fact that it smoulders a bit cause its leaking, for the modeling staff's use

[Quyneax 988]

But what is his use as an elder artifact, if every other elder artifact had a use to the elder gods in world building what was the use of zaros?

~~~legoman187~~~

Zaros as god of Control would be terribly useful as, well, control... in a project the size of Gielinor, some things are bound to be forgotten, that's what you have bug checkers for :P. It's a really good backstory too, imo. The TokHaar are sentient as well, so that's no problem, and everyone knows a good AI is the best type of interface.

 

Zaros' mask is undoubtedly Sliske's inspiration as well, that's a great connection to make.

 

All of this looks excellent, I hope Inventing will be a nice skill to train as well.

[Howlin0001 67]

Is there anywhere that has a recap of all that was said/found out today?

[Binary Mage 167]

LutRS over at the Runescape subreddit made a pretty comprehensive list here.

 

Apparently they will be adding the last few pieces of information shortly. (More info about the Invention skill, details about the level 90 2h weapons, ports expansion, and apparently a non-combat (Skilling) based boss battle)

[Aiel 240]

"Runescape 2014 18+ months of content planned"

....yeah that's because it has six months of this years content.

[Sy_Accursed 1554]

 

But what is his use as an elder artifact, if every other elder artifact had a use to the elder gods in world building what was the use of zaros?

~~~legoman187~~~

Zaros as god of Control would be terribly useful as, well, control... in a project the size of Gielinor, some things are bound to be forgotten, that's what you have bug checkers for :P. It's a really good backstory too, imo. The TokHaar are sentient as well, so that's no problem, and everyone knows a good AI is the best type of interface.

 

Zaros' mask is undoubtedly Sliske's inspiration as well, that's a great connection to make.

 

All of this looks excellent, I hope Inventing will be a nice skill to train as well.

 

 

I dunno whether I'd assume he's an elder artefact just because the Elder gods made him.t

The Elder gods ARE the only ones bale to create life, they created every last plant and animal originally after all.

 

On the basis that the gods left Gielinor empty I could imagine Zaros being something of an early 'experiment' in controlling life forms on other worlds whilst they were absent, that they decided didn't work. Rather than a literal artefact, especially as they recently said in podcast he has never had an elder artefact or been involved with them, it'd be a bit of a big lie to say that when he himself is one.

 

It seems contradictory to me as well in terms of the Stone of Jas being the strongest elder artefact. For that to be true surely gods who used it, and mortals too, should've been boosted much more than we've seen happen. Plus the fact the Stone was obviously still around in the 2nd age and Zaros still dominated implies he has more power than it offers.

[Wkw 452]

It was more or less that Zaros knew that there were artiifacts out there, but didn't care to get them, or to use them.

[HunterDexter 310]

New construction kit

 

Armadyl overseeing World Event 2

 

Some of his warriors

 

 

Brassica and Marimbo having fun

 

 

Bandos

 

 

Elder God

 

 

Early work on Seren

 

 

Priffdinas, grown out of Seren's heart (in the middle of the tree on the left)

 

 

MMG saying awkward stuff (when asked why he has a tank)

 

 

Divination quest

 

 

 

 

6th age Zaros

 

Freneskae

 

[Binary Mage 167]

Rampant speculation: That Elder God is the Frenskae Creator-God, and the reason why Zamorak has so many weird spiky appendages on his head in his ascended form is because the Mahajarrat innately see spikes/horns as godly because of what their creator-god looks like.

 

 

Also, that Prifddinas concept art has my heart thumping out of my chest. :D

[HunterDexter 310]

It could also be the elder god that awakens in april next year, who goes rampant when she sees what destruction has been done to her work.

[Alg 2522]

Brassica and Marimbo having fun

 

Please be real please be real please be real please be real

[Aiel 240]

 

Brassica and Marimbo having fun

 

Please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real please dont be real

 

ftfy

 

I wont let brassica prime become a thing

[God Of Lego 162]

That concept art was made as a joke. But they are making a possible world event where Marimbo and Barrasica play games with eachother. The fun concept art was not shown on screen.

[Drazhor 587]

They said it'd probably end up something minigame-like, and they wouldn't be trying to kill each other, just partying.

Regardless,
BRASSICA PRIME SHOULDN'T BE A REAL THING.

[Wkw 452]

ALL HAIL BRRRRRRRRRRRRASSICA PRIME!!

[chenw 451]

At the RF there was a set of 4 computers that allowed players to try out the new Barrows Deluxe in beta, and I must say I have never seen anything more painful to watch

 

Basically the dungeon is in a hole south of the Burgh de Rott bank, enter the hole, and there is an arena at the end of tow narrow passage ways (I will say the purpose of these passages later), the team is made up of four people, two must take each passage, to reach the arena

 

The arena itself is split into two halves that are seperated from each other. When the players are already, they speak to the portal in the middle that split the arenas, and 3 of each brother will spawn in each half of the arena. The halves always spawn the same set of brothers. The sets are: Ahrim, Verac and Guthan /  Karil, Dharok and Torag

 

Each brother has 50k health, and the triangle is strongly enforced (to the point where Drygores were not even touching Ahrim).

 

Ahrim casts both Fire Surge and Bloodfire Barrage, while the other two melee's you.

 

But each brother has few special attacks, here are the ones I have seen:

 

Ahrim A: He will summon lightning that strikes the ground hitting and area of 5x5, and it will slowly move towards one of the players, striking I think 10 times. Each time you are hit it deals about 3k damage

 

Ahrim B: He will teleport into a random location in the room and fire two stream of fire that is 4 squares in length, and he will slowly spin around on the spot, haven't seen the damage it is capable of doing.

 

Guthan: he will randomly use the Runescape equivalent of diablo 3 whirlwind attack that deals damage every 2 ticks to anyone within its range. I think it does 3k damage per hit, and Guthan moves in your direction while whirlwinding.

 

Karil: he will turn into a ball of fire that will explode and deal damage to anyone within I think 5x5 radius with him at the centre. That explosion deals 6k+ (i have seen 6.7k). 

 

I believe one of the brothers (I think its Karil) will randomly drop a mine in the arena that will deal 6k to anyone that steps on it.

 

If one of the side wipes, the brothers remaining on the other side teleports to the other side. No idea if it will work vice versa.

 

In short, unless everyone I have seen playing the barrows beta were inexperienced pvm'ers, I have not seen anyone getting close to even killing 1 brother (best I have seen is 33% damage against 1 brother). This is with both BIS DPS gear and BIS Tank gear (with arcane shield).

 

One of the mods demonstrated the escape after you kill all brothers. You will have 30 seconds to escape the dungeon when all brothers are dead, and you will be blocked from teleporting. The long passage way doesn't give much leeway to the escape (which has, at most, seconds to spare). After that 30 seconds, it will start doing heavy damage to anyone inside, until they either escape or die.

 

I am sorry if I didn't give a very description, since I was mostly preoccupied watching people dying without as much as putting a scratch on any brother.

 

I have not seen Akrisae at all, not even when the Mod killed everything.

 

But in a Nutshell:

 

1. Correct T90 weapons will most likely be very important, with Seismics being exceptionally so.

2. They hurt, a lot.

3. If any single person dies, there is a high chance of a wipe.

4. The fight isn't over when everything is dead.

 

Edit: For the record, if anyone saw the Q&A live stream, I was the second last person to post a question (regarding Bosses dropping untradeable stuff that will specifically benefit only the boss hunter)

[Aiel 240]

lets hope they take feedback from runefest and fix it

[God Of Lego 162]

That just makes it sound more of a pain in the ass than fun

[V O R K 191]

Ouch! Sounds like quite the challenge.

[Yoko Kurama 801]

Sounds like an update targeted towards people who have Seismics and Ascensions; what a waste. Should have a made it clear that this month was only for billionaires. 

[Ammako 1770]

Lv. 90 Staff sounds like it's going to be extremely costly, just like Seismics.

If I'm guessing right, we'll have to use the Inventing skill to merge a Virtus wand, a Grifolic wand, a Seismic wand, an Armadyl battlestaff and a Mystic orb together.

Still cheaper than Seismic wand + orb, but... Still over 2.3b

 

So far, it sounds like the Lv. 90 2h crossbow would be the cheapest to make. Zaryte bow, Royal crossbow, Magic shieldbow, Karil's crossbow, unless there's parts of the Assbows that I'm not seeing, but since both the staff and the 2h... axe... sword... thing seem to require the main hand version of their Lv. 90 dual wield weapons, it may be safe to assume it would require a main hand Ascension crossbow to make.

 

(Also, Lv. 90 2h should have been a bow IMO.)

 

[spoiler=The picture, if anyone is interested.]