ohw btw i forgot to mention that yes.... prices will rise and this is not good :(

 

 

 

It is good for RCers like me! :twisted:

i hope RCing is still as profitable!!!!

I have just had to read every persons post and it took some time, however it made me realise one thing, what a buch of wingers you all are.

 

Jagex was trying to help us dettering the cheats helps us and having higher prices doesn't hurt anyone, i mean it is about time it become harder to make money and "buy" your skills. I was around in rs1 and it was much more difficult to lvl then, becasue the prices of everything were so high i mean full rune cost a good 500k with r2h being the best weapon costing 200k.

 

 

 

However you now see it increasingly where people get to 99 farming without even collecting a seed of there own it should be harder and more expensive to buy levels.

 

 

 

Although getting back to the key of the issue, Jagex has done us a favour, it will steady out in the long run, prices will be higher but prices will only go so high. I know you can all afford it you all have 30 mil+ in items if you want to lvl that badly

Now I really hope that autoers start to get P2P, the new update is forcing me to buy as much pure essence as I can before the price goes up.

F2P runecrafters just got a gift from heaven (Jagex), P2P runecrafters got owned. The ardougne nature chest gets more and more attractive now, even yhough I have 44+ runecrafting... And I need 53 thieving for DT anyway :P

this sucks for alchers... I dont think we make profit anymore...

 

I still don't get why people think that. It's not like natures directly depend on the price of essence. They've always had a set price, and the fact that runecrafting even exists just makes them drastically more common. What's it matter if a rune essence costs 50 or 60, even 100 gp when the crafter is still making PURE PROFIT? The only reason that natures would go up would be because of greed and manipulation on the forums from people linking the two together.

 

 

 

Basically the only reason that p2p'ers should complain is those who craft on world 66 laws. They lose a lot more money. Every other p2p crafter still makes huge profits.

 

 

 

 

 

Because a lot of nature crafters don't make PURE PROFIT....

 

 

 

Larryr for example sells the natures and uses the money to pay runners, collectors, managers, security, recruiters, and much more...

 

 

 

Other people that have runners also do not make pure profit when they pay runners.

I actually hope anyone is going to read this :wink:

 

 

 

My expectations will be, that P2P people WILL!! mine Pure Essence, because the prices will go up.

 

a few things can happen:

 

 

 

`a) the price of pure essence will go up to a sturdy 75-150gp, depens on the amount of crafters. People will go mine pure essence in the wizard guild, rather then picking flax at seers.

 

`B) the prices of nature runes and law runes will go up big time! Instead of the ussual 300gp, prices will raise to 400+gp. This will make it worthwhile to mine essence and buy the rather expensive Pure Essence.

 

 

 

expectations for runecrafting training: `World 16 is going to be overrun by members, trying to trian their runecrafting in a CHEAP and EASY way, by making air runes.

 

 

 

Air rune prices are already falling to 15gp and will soon be 10gp, which requires cheaper essence, because of the expensive production that world 16 requires. (2.5k +essence)

 

 

 

I hope some of you might have thought about this and maybe agree, but I do think this is the best for everyone, this update i mean.

Once the supplies run out on current essense supplies I can see the price going up until supply meets demand once again. At the moment the price has only gone up because of the expected price rise. It will take a while for the price to go up due to there still being plenty of essense from F2P still in circulation, once runecrafters use this up the price of pure essense will go up.

i think this is good, since i never buy my ess. more mining lvls for me i gess

20 April 2006 - Pure Essence on free servers

 

It has been brought to our attention that some free players who used to be members have had their essence converted into pure essence which they now can't use.

 

Don't worry, we are aware of this and are working to fix it. In next week's update we will make it so that whilst free players can't mine any more pure essence they can however still use/trade any which was automatically converted.

 

 

 

If you haven't already read it, then please see the previous news post entitled Rune Essence adjustment for more details on the Rune Essence changes.

 

 

 

 

the prices will get only to 80 each or so...

I think RCers will make a lot more money now, pure ess will go up, but runes will go up even more because of all the merchanters taking all the ess and leaving none for the crafters, those of us who still get our own ess will make a hell of a lot of money, just it will take longer.

Omg buy all the pure ess before its 2 late!!

The game is ruined because it has reverted back to a more original state? That you are stimulated to level up by hard work instead of buying a level, i.e buying essence produced by macroers?

 

 

 

I think the problem here is that the playing style of some people is effected and that of others isn't. That is not going to ruin the game. It just means that some people have to adjust their playing style. And you can of course complain about that, but it is just a game and now it will become more rewarding to put more effort into the game. Like it used to be.

 

 

 

Nobody is forcing anyone to buy pure ess at 100gp each. Or at 50 each, or at 10 each. In this game you have the freedom to do almost everything yourself.

 

 

 

You make less profit? And? Is that what this game is about? To make money? My friend was doing green dragons so he could sell the d bones and d hides in order to buy a whip. He asked why I didn't do the same. In fact I have been at the green dragons a failry long time. But I would never sell the bones or hide I collect. I use it to level myself up. I only sell what I cannot use, or cannot use in the future.

 

 

 

Let's be honest with each other now. Is the game ruined now? No. Do some people have to adjust? Yes. Is it going to make the game worse? No. Are the autoers going for jews now? They might. Would the game be ruined if there would be pure jews? No. Would it mean high Alchers would have more difficulties leveling their mage for free? Yes. Game ruined? No.

 

 

 

It just became more rewarding.

I love how some of yous like to rag on people for wanting to make legit money quick... yet yous never bother to rag on merchants, who are the scum of this entire community.

 

 

 

And yes, this does ruin the game from a money making perspective.

 

 

 

To to moron who called everyone before his post a "winger"... I dunno what country your from, but if that was an insult... I'd suggest you be a bit more creative. That came off a bit rude, especially when it seems you didn't bother to read the posts after that "long time". :roll:

 

 

 

I think RCers have a right to be slightly bitter. I for one (when I was playing, of course) liked buying for f2pers. Even had a specific person I bought from for the most part, and we chatted from time to time and got along.

 

 

 

All this buying levels rubbish is nonsense. Buying levels has been around since forever, and long before RCing was ever created. And there are other skills that can crank out some more more money (Barrows, Slayer, Mining, Smithing... dare I go on?).

 

 

 

I'm seeing a lot of weak arguements, but thats besides the point I guess. I'm not totally against this change, but it is a bummer. And I don't appreciate morons calling me a winger either.

spurious i agree with you 100%. the economy as it is, based on a steady supply by autoers in order to keep prices stable, is bound to collapse at some point. people merchant ess because they can get it cheap from low level ess miners, and sell it at market price to nat crafters. now, because the illegal supply of ess has been disrupted, the market of ess is falling apart

I'm starting to grow sick and tired of this lamentation over the prices of 'pure' essence.

 

 

 

If you don't like the prices, mine it your damn self. You WILL make a profit on it if you craft natures, even though it's not as large as it was before it's STILL a profit.

 

 

 

If you're afraid your alchemisation days are over, let me let you in on a little secret: alchemy prices don't flux. They'll stay constant, so you would get the same from your Yew/Magic longbow as you did yesterday.

 

 

 

You're all going to have to deal with this update. If you don't like it, then figure out a new way to make money and stop whining.

What really concerns me is that Jagex took action in a way that ONLY gives member the cream.

 

 

 

This is the first update in my memory that gives members MORE than free players even if they do the SAME EXACT thing. :?

 

 

 

NO, Not complaining... :wink:

wont hurt us to bad because some low lvl p2p players (maybe even high ones) will figure out "hey ess prices are going up maybe i can mine some and earn some cash" and when they do it will push more pure ess into the economy which will lower the price again........

this sucks for alchers... I dont think we make profit anymore...

 

I still don't get why people think that. It's not like natures directly depend on the price of essence. They've always had a set price, and the fact that runecrafting even exists just makes them drastically more common. What's it matter if a rune essence costs 50 or 60, even 100 gp when the crafter is still making PURE PROFIT? The only reason that natures would go up would be because of greed and manipulation on the forums from people linking the two together.

 

 

 

Basically the only reason that p2p'ers should complain is those who craft on world 66 laws. They lose a lot more money. Every other p2p crafter still makes huge profits.

 

 

 

 

 

Because a lot of nature crafters don't make PURE PROFIT....

 

 

 

Larryr for example sells the natures and uses the money to pay runners, collectors, managers, security, recruiters, and much more...

 

 

 

Other people that have runners also do not make pure profit when they pay runners.

 

I was talking more in generalities, in this case, about alchers that he mentioned. The large majority of players don't have a huge team of runners taking away their profits. I know that people on w66 who have laws ran for them will take a big money loss on this one, as will other people who have them ran for them, but in general that's not enough reason for a rune to go up 20-30 gp.

I agree that the prices are going to go way up

ok im a world 66 law runner and i have 21 mining.so that means all my ess is the horrible kind and i cant run my laws till i get some!it ticks me off because it hurts members more than free players!and the f2p are the ones autoing!this angers me more than any other update has before.makes me wanna barf. :oops: :evil: :( :!: :?: :!:

Go and powermine for a few hours.

this sucks for alchers... I dont think we make profit anymore...

 

I still don't get why people think that. It's not like natures directly depend on the price of essence. They've always had a set price, and the fact that runecrafting even exists just makes them drastically more common. What's it matter if a rune essence costs 50 or 60, even 100 gp when the crafter is still making PURE PROFIT? The only reason that natures would go up would be because of greed and manipulation on the forums from people linking the two together.

 

 

 

Basically the only reason that p2p'ers should complain is those who craft on world 66 laws. They lose a lot more money. Every other p2p crafter still makes huge profits.

 

 

 

Nature runes do count on the price of essence, RCers want do not want to lose any money whenever they buy the ess for more and have to sell the nats for less. Instead of losing some profit the RCer will raise the price of his nats to keep the profit the same

Pure essences prices will go up once the current supplies are used. :) Rc'ers need not worry though, all they have to do is raise rune prices. It's the mages who need to worry that rune prices will go up. :wink:

this sucks for alchers... I dont think we make profit anymore...

 

I still don't get why people think that. It's not like natures directly depend on the price of essence. They've always had a set price, and the fact that runecrafting even exists just makes them drastically more common. What's it matter if a rune essence costs 50 or 60, even 100 gp when the crafter is still making PURE PROFIT? The only reason that natures would go up would be because of greed and manipulation on the forums from people linking the two together.

 

 

 

Basically the only reason that p2p'ers should complain is those who craft on world 66 laws. They lose a lot more money. Every other p2p crafter still makes huge profits.

 

 

 

Nature runes do count on the price of essence, RCers want do not want to lose any money whenever they buy the ess for more and have to sell the nats for less. Instead of losing some profit the RCer will raise the price of his nats to keep the profit the same

 

I don't agree with that premise though. It's not like there's a magic profit number that crafters have to always keep constant. There might be less essence, and if it really does get to the 80-100 gp range runes might go up, but they're still making profits, and the only reason they would raise their asking price would be because of greed alone. There might be less runes crafted, lowering supply, but that would be the only reason that prices for natures should go up. Doesn't mean they won't though. People are going to use their 'fear-manipulation-tactics' on forums anyways to get the prices up.