chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 29/09/2008 Jagex recently changed the behaviour of Barrow Brothers, and such that they will move out of their safespots, hencing safespotting them no longer works! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! This guide is for those who may be unfortunate enough to meet any of the melee brothers outside of the chest, but are fortunate enough to meet them in the so-called 'Corner Rooms'. You may not see any safe spots in that room, so you decide to go to your inventory and click on your prayer potion. However, this is totally unnecessary, because in everyone of these corner rooms, there is 1 safe spot each. These are visible to you sometimes, most other times you will not see them. Proof of these spots : You would probably asking yourself, WHY on Earth do these spots exist? What exactly are these? As I said, you will see the culprit for this spot sometimes, but not most of the othertimes. In fact we pay so little attention to it that we sometimes forget that they are there. They are in fact Ladders. Why? Ladder Positions are fixed in the 4 corner rooms, and when you start a barrow run, and you enter a tunnel, it will be in one of these 4 rooms, but the other ladders will be invisible to you, because you cannot use them. However, to the game, they still exist and are still obstacles that you can shoot over (or through depending on which way you look at it). These spots provide extra bit of protection against the melee brothers, and also allow you to save valuable prayer potion doses. The following are images of the 4 corner rooms when the ladder are there, and when they are not there (but being used as a safe spot). Red dots denote where the ladder is supposed to be. North East Room North West Room South East Room South West Room My apologies for some of the images not showing the arrow to prove genuity of author, however due to the time constraints, I did not retake the screenshots of the safe spots. The point is still shown, that you can still use Jedi Mind Trick.. *Smack* er.. these safe spots. Now, why are these spots useful? These I found useful because now I can try and force few of the brothers before reaching the chest, this allows me to mage them from a safe spot, thereby minimising damage and Prayer Potion usage, and save money overall. This technique is achieved by opening and closing door repeatedly until a brother shows up or the doors no longer spawn monsters, in which case I move on to the next room. The following shows the ideal places for this to be implemented The pink lines shows which doors are to be entered and exited repeatedly. These doors are chosen such that there is a safe spot to either side of the door, so regardless of where the brother spawns, you would still be able to mage him safely without using prayer pots. Just be careful of the monsters beside it. Most of them will get stuck by the ladder, though some nasty skeletons might decide to stab you in the back. Kill them with melee and then carry on maging the brother. However if you feel confident enough that you can ignore the skeletons, worms and rats, then you do not need to touch them. You can still hit the barrow brothers even if you are being attacked by another monster. For those people that may have a bit of trouble finding a way down in the tunnels, try and position your map so that it always faces north. If you do this, then every room in the tunnel is unique to its door positions and side tunnel directions. This will allow you to pin point where your ladder room is, and where the treasure room door is. Again when Barrowing, take all the precautions you would, especially down at the tunnels. If you don't feel comfortable about these spots, use a crypt rat or bloodworm as a practice targets, and once you are comfortable, move on to Guthan and Torag, and finally Dharok and Verac. NOTE : These spots do NOT work with Karil or Ahrim. For me, I NEVER fight Karil anywhere but at the chest. This is to conserve prayer potion by allowing me to drink right after a Hologram shows up. It is recommeded that you drink immediately after a face, so that you wont be immediately drained of prayer. What I do is kill everything in the treasure room, then equip my prayer outfit, set autocast and auto retaliate, and THEN wait for the face. Once face is up, drink, pray, open chest, own. Hope this of help. I will update this guide when I find more safe spots (which I have seen one more so far, will try and find others) EDIT 29th August 2006 Behold, I have found yet another safe spot in the Barrow Tunnels, this time it is near the North West corner room. This makes ALL rooms suitable for Brother Force Spawning. The exact location of the spot is shown here : Courtesy to Imageshack for hosting these images, I will try and shrink them in a later time. Thanks to Tip it for the Barrow Tunnel Image. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilboy1034 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Very very nice... I really like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodveld Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Darn it, I was really hoping I could say "there's already 2140934 guides for this", but this guide is good. :( =D> Good job. :wink: :^_^: I drew that smilie, btw, along with a few more used by this site.Classic bloodveld for lyph3! Although I do like the new ones.Like a ninja, here I was, gone I am now.BUT! I may be back! Add my new account, Dr Bloodveld! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koddo Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wow, thank you, this is going to be very helpful. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugrul88 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Very nice find. This'll help a lot when dealing with Dharok down there :) Tugrul88 ---> Perm Banned because Jagex can't distinguish the difference between Trust-trading and RW trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooneyrules0 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Darn it, I was really hoping I could say "there's already 2140934 guides for this", but this guide is good. :( :lol: ÃÆââââ¬Ã¢Ã¢â∠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adon1 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 :shock: WOW!!! personally i love barrows. im there right now \ this is definitely one of those things ive gotta try, i knew about using the ladder to block but i didn know about the non-visible ladders great find!! =D> EDIT: wow it really works, i tried on a crypt rat, now i have an even better reason for bringing my halberd \ I support jerk173 going for 99fish and cook! Do you? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Diddy Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 wow great find also does it work horizontally? like you slef on the elft of the ladder and there on the right and mage them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 wow great find also does it work horizontally? like you slef on the elft of the ladder and there on the right and mage them? these spots work exactly like any spot, they would work horizontally too, It was just coincidence that they are all aligned north/south. You can shoot them east to west as well. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilertay Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wow, awesome. Great find! hoorah! =D> [Admin Edit: Religious text Not permitted]~108 combat~5.9k dusties killed / dragon chain :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screechingmu Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wow! Awesome find! that will help ALOT My Guide to Killing Green Dragon Autoers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I would say that is bug abuse (unless Jgex wanted those invisible spots to be there), but they're too damn good for that. Nice guide. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyyankees588 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 very nice this could save me plenty of money :D Getting another sig[removed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I would say that is bug abuse (unless Jgex wanted those invisible spots to be there), but they're too damn good for that. Nice guide. I wouldnt say its bug abuse, because its technically not a bug, rather a technical side effect. Because they dont want people to see people standing in ladders :P 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Oh lol I forgot you end up at random places... Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 WHOOPs! First image edited! 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I have a question, can you continue to go through the corridor doors, to a corner room both have safespots. Over and over again till the brother spawns or is he set to spawn at one particular door? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujammil Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 great guide man helps me a lot :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby1167 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Very nice, NO ONE TELL JAGEX pl0x? All Quests completed99 Thieving achieved on January 10th, 200899 Defense achieved on August 3rd, 200885 Slayer achieved on July 31st, 20086 Dragon boot drops, 14 Whip drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I have a question, can you continue to go through the corridor doors, to a corner room both have safespots. Over and over again till the brother spawns or is he set to spawn at one particular door? I am not too sure about this one. You got me on this. I never really try to spawn a brother, I just let it happen. A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Corsair Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Awesome guide, last night I notcied having to run around the spot in the NE corner room luring Dharok to the rock pile. But I didn't put it together that I could use that as a safespot. Cool, no more fighting my way to the NE room or an outside corridor for Dharok or Verac. Thanks again. EDIT: And to Satenza, I always use the corridor/NE room trick for Verac and Dharok. Going back and forth until I get them (sometimes it takes awhile), so I think it's just a random chance at any door not a particular one. If I'm understanding your question correctly. If Jagex ever made a perfect update, there would be players complaining about nothing to complain about.[hide=My Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I have a question, can you continue to go through the corridor doors, to a corner room both have safespots. Over and over again till the brother spawns or is he set to spawn at one particular door? I dont think he is set to spawn at a particular door, because double brothers between different doors were observed over the course of barrow history (best record was 4 Dharoks over 2 doors i think). I have also experienced a brother spawning at 2 different places, 1 in a side tunnel, and the other near the chest. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My_Eggs Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 thats really good, this is gonan make barrows sooooo much easier for me now 99 HP, Attack, Strength, Defence, Summoning, Ranged, Herblore, Prayer, Agility, Magic, Slayer, Fletching, Fishing, Woodcutting, Mining, and Thieving. Jagex'd out of my untrimmed hp cape on 6/14/2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubel_zum_end Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Awesome guide! I always thought you could do that, but never tried.. Now I'll have to use em! Thanks for the awesome guide! Check out my barrows log in my sig too if you haven't already :D . Joseph. My Barrows log im kinda glad you dont live near me sheep are be land mammals XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Awesome guide! I always thought you could do that, but never tried.. Now I'll have to use em! Thanks for the awesome guide! Check out my barrows log in my sig too if you haven't already :D . Joseph. what sort of insane luck you got there joseph, 3 d meds in 50 runs?! thats brilliant! By the way, for those who are thinking of using these spots, please do watch your HP, because in order to spawn the brother, you might have to spawn an army around the ladder, sure they are not that lethal because its not multicombat, they can still do damage. Especially for lower levels, be careful. EDIT : Added an extra note to explain why these spots are useful. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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