Overpowered ancients

[m4tty]

And also easyness it's pretty easy. If you got some warriors chasing you. Just wait until you get a nice distance (Kiting) then snare them.

 

 

 

Class, note the key word bolded. It's obvious our specimen here hasn't heard of the Combat Triange.

 

 

 

Yes I have heard of the Combat Triangle. The combat triangle is a peice of "Insert offensive word here" A ranger is supposed to "Own" a mage. *99 ranger with Full karils goes against barrager mage with Ahrims* *Mage pwns ranger* Warrior and mage hybrids basically own everyone. *Ice barrage runs up 4 dds specs dead*

 

rofl, id love to see a mage beat a ranger with both of them in the best gear, only chance of that happening is if they at all times manage to not splash to be able to run back far enough and the ranger is too stupid to put long ranged on.

 

Ancient is one of the reasons why I don't do Castle Wars.

 

 

 

I agree they are overpowered, but why wouldn't they be?

 

 

 

I mean it requires nearly impossible quest to use them.

Desert Treasure isn't that bad...

 

 

 

I didn't say it was bad, I just said it was hard.

 

 

 

It is hard. For some people it is hard. I've even heard people complaining about "taking hours" to do the quest.

 

 

 

It does take hours....

 

 

 

And that pyramid is impossible!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

But it can be done....

 

i did it on my first try running with protect from melee on, its easy lol.

[Nazgul740]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

Have you ever tried ancienting at cw? After you try it yourself and find out how 'easy' it is and how expensive, I bet your opinion will change.

 

 

 

I have done ancienting in CW multiple times. Expensive is no problem at all. Heck some people have 300mil. Thats enough for a gaint amount of ice barrages. Just because someone is rich doesn't mean they can be overpowered.

 

 

 

And also easyness it's pretty easy. If you got some warriors chasing you. Just wait until you get a nice distance (Kiting) then snare them.

 

ahrims has low melee def and no range def and you splash alot on hides... if people knew what to do, then ancienting wouldnt be so good.

 

 

 

I wear Black D hide against every mage I meet. And I can assure you that The god spells splash way more then Ancients. It's like wearing rune.

 

 

 

How many times are those people still useing ahrims and also are charged?

 

 

 

60 mage for a god spell but most acienters are at least 10 levels above that...

[armadillo48]

And also easyness it's pretty easy. If you got some warriors chasing you. Just wait until you get a nice distance (Kiting) then snare them.

 

 

 

Class, note the key word bolded. It's obvious our specimen here hasn't heard of the Combat Triange.

 

 

 

Yes I have heard of the Combat Triangle. The combat triangle is a peice of "Insert offensive word here" A ranger is supposed to "Own" a mage. *99 ranger with Full karils goes against barrager mage with Ahrims* *Mage pwns ranger* Warrior and mage hybrids basically own everyone. *Ice barrage runs up 4 dds specs dead*

 

 

 

:?: i own 94+ ancients in ahrims the whole time and i'm only 81 range. i rely on my karils in cw and it's easy enough to take out most mages with them only getting in 2 or 3 hits. If u think ancients is soooooooo unbelievably good, do dt, get 94 magic and do w/e u think it is which makes anceints so good. If you can't beat the, join them =D>

[Kashi]

And also easyness it's pretty easy. If you got some warriors chasing you. Just wait until you get a nice distance (Kiting) then snare them.

 

 

 

Class, note the key word bolded. It's obvious our specimen here hasn't heard of the Combat Triange.

 

 

 

Yes I have heard of the Combat Triangle. The combat triangle is a peice of "Insert offensive word here" A ranger is supposed to "Own" a mage. *99 ranger with Full karils goes against barrager mage with Ahrims* *Mage pwns ranger* Warrior and mage hybrids basically own everyone. *Ice barrage runs up 4 dds specs dead*

 

 

 

You just don't know how to combat them effectively. With 99 rnage, range pots and rune arrows, nothing can stop a ranger. Mages drop like flies, Rune armor shreds like tissue paper. I've seen rangers in World 18 beat people in full barrows armor. Remember, a mages attack range is the same length as a rangers. If they can hit you, you can hit them. Try a range pot, rune arrows, and then use your special attack once the mage gets low hp. I'm in the fight pits right now, a mage using Ice Blitz splashed on my full Verac's 4 times in a row, and I wasn't even praying. No combat class is really over powered .. can a mage with ancients hit two 35's in less than a second? No, but a warrior with a DDS can. Can a mage hit 40-40-40 in under two seconds? No, but a warrior with a granite maul might.

[fanheader]

I agree with kashi...

 

 

 

 

 

Each group has their own advantages...

 

 

 

Range owns all

 

 

 

melle is great for the K.O

 

 

 

And mage has great advantages like bind etc.and hitting multiple targets,then again so can a dragon 2h.

[mikehild]

I agree with Kashi as well. With the introduction of the new range prayer, range is very very powerful. In castle wars, I was hitting level 115+ players harder and more often with 90 range (prayer and potted) than other level 115+ player were hitting with melee.

[m4tty]

And also easyness it's pretty easy. If you got some warriors chasing you. Just wait until you get a nice distance (Kiting) then snare them.

 

 

 

Class, note the key word bolded. It's obvious our specimen here hasn't heard of the Combat Triange.

 

 

 

Yes I have heard of the Combat Triangle. The combat triangle is a peice of "Insert offensive word here" A ranger is supposed to "Own" a mage. *99 ranger with Full karils goes against barrager mage with Ahrims* *Mage pwns ranger* Warrior and mage hybrids basically own everyone. *Ice barrage runs up 4 dds specs dead*

 

 

 

:?: i own 94+ ancients in ahrims the whole time and i'm only 81 range. i rely on my karils in cw and it's easy enough to take out most mages with them only getting in 2 or 3 hits. If u think ancients is soooooooo unbelievably good, do dt, get 94 magic and do w/e u think it is which makes anceints so good. If you can't beat the, join them =D>

 

exactly lol, im 84 range and the times when ive taken cbow to castle wars it usually kills mages fast or makes them put melee armour on.

[nick44]

Yes. Its very over powered. And all you people who say "just wear hides, then its easy" you are wrong. I remember i was walking back from green dragons and i had black dhide, wep, glory, and anti shield with like 6 or 7 lobbys left. A mage came, barraged me, hit in the high 20s and i ate a lob and put protect from mage on. Now even with hides, protect from mage, and food i couldnt get out of lvl 3 wildy alive. Explain to me how thats not over powered

[Rebdragon]

Here's an idea, maybe you could stop whining, get off your butt, and Ancient a bit too? It's not that hard; Burst is what, lvl 74 mage?

 

 

 

And for the love of God, "it costs too much" isn't an excuse. If you can say it costs too much than the you must realize that the Ancients are making a sacrifice too.

 

 

 

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

 

 

 

EDIT: Btw, a proper Barraging spree on a packed world costs 700k+ a game. I'd like some bang for my buck for something that costs that much :roll: .

[i_windy_i]

Here's an idea, maybe you could stop whining, get off your butt, and Ancient a bit too? It's not that hard; Burst is what, lvl 74 mage?

70, actually.

[Rebdragon]

Here's an idea, maybe you could stop whining, get off your butt, and Ancient a bit too? It's not that hard; Burst is what, lvl 74 mage?

70, actually.

 

Wow, even easier :lol: .

 

 

 

I can't believe that I want to be the Perfect Castle Wars Mage, and I can't even remember the level for Burst :-w .

[jamesgoh]

lol ancient mages get owned pretty quick in C WARs lol, they are always the first few to die

 

jus wear hide and pray mage....

[i_windy_i]

Yes. Its very over powered. And all you people who say "just wear hides, then its easy" you are wrong. I remember i was walking back from green dragons and i had black dhide, wep, glory, and anti shield with like 6 or 7 lobbys left. A mage came, barraged me, hit in the high 20s and i ate a lob and put protect from mage on. Now even with hides, protect from mage, and food i couldnt get out of lvl 3 wildy alive. Explain to me how thats not over powered

That same guy using godspells would have beaten you just as well, and teleblocked you to boot!

[supercanon14]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

[chris28]

Ancients is not overpowered :shame: .

 

I ice blitzed (wiz mind bomb) at edgeville i was on about 55hp then the player i was blitzing just switched to hides and dds and koed me with like a 27-29 spec. Mages dont stand a chance somtimes.

[m4tty]

Yes. Its very over powered. And all you people who say "just wear hides, then its easy" you are wrong. I remember i was walking back from green dragons and i had black dhide, wep, glory, and anti shield with like 6 or 7 lobbys left. A mage came, barraged me, hit in the high 20s and i ate a lob and put protect from mage on. Now even with hides, protect from mage, and food i couldnt get out of lvl 3 wildy alive. Explain to me how thats not over powered

 

its a level 94 spell so the guy was 94+ mage, and probably had mystic might on because 1 splash and you wouldve escaped, and im sure your def is much lower than that.

 

Ancients is not overpowered :shame: .

 

I ice blitzed (wiz mind bomb) at edgeville i was on about 55hp then the player i was blitzing just switched to hides and dds and koed me with like a 27-29 spec. Mages dont stand a chance somtimes.

 

exactly mage armour has next to no def... 2 lucky dds specs and u die.

[thethinginthecorner]

doesnt ahrims have like +0 melee def well if it does take a dds to it if i doesnt like reb and others have said do dt!

[FrankyBrown]

Yes. Its very over powered. And all you people who say "just wear hides, then its easy" you are wrong. I remember i was walking back from green dragons and i had black dhide, wep, glory, and anti shield with like 6 or 7 lobbys left. A mage came, barraged me, hit in the high 20s and i ate a lob and put protect from mage on. Now even with hides, protect from mage, and food i couldnt get out of lvl 3 wildy alive. Explain to me how thats not over powered

 

 

 

No you just suck :lol: I have escaped a few times from ice barragers at level 23 wildy green drags wearing: Black d hide legs, rune plate and helm only eating maybe 4 lobs.

 

 

 

Ancients are not overpowered, they are beaten by rangers pretty easily. (But using 2 combat types>1 anyway, like Ancients+range).

[lol000999]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

 

 

 

I use Mith Arrows and black d hide and I get absoutely owned.

 

 

 

Edit: And for the ppl who think a ranger could own an ice barrager go to CW teamed by Ice barrager and warriors forcing you to wear something like rune pl8 + Black d hide chaps.

[Aquashock]

doesnt ahrims have like +0 melee def well if it does take a dds to it if i doesnt like reb and others have said do dt!

 

 

 

Arhims has some small melee def, it only has +0 range def.

 

 

 

On topic, Ancients has never been overpowered, they simply have been mages "whips", Allow me to explain.

 

 

 

Melee trumphs range, so their best weapon is +82 slash and Strength, so it plays on their preys (just using prey to refer to rangers) weakness, slash defense. So not only does melee have awsome range defense, but also a weapon that really hurts their target. Best defense and offence.

 

 

 

Now, Mages trumph melee (aside from hides). So their "specialty weapon" is a spell that not only does big damage, but also freezes them. So in theory, mages dont even need defense, because their prey, will never get to them.

 

 

 

Finally, Rangers trumph Mages. With the release of the new prayers, Range has been made a formitable force. I'm not saying, go pking with Range if your lvl 70, youll be rich! But, hell, have you seen glowing mage's new video. For those of you who dont know, He is hiei the pk's main, who is a brilliant tank ranger, and now, with the new prayers, he proves range is equal.

 

 

 

Now on topic, range does trumph mages. They not only shoot Very rapid (on rapid that is), Even faster than a whip, dagger, and scimmy (fastest for melee). And their armor makes it DIFFICULT for mages to hit them.

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, one last argument. For those of you who say "if your paying 2k a shot, you expect results" or anything along those lines. Say if a Lunar spell was made, takes 100 bloods (60k per bulk price) 100 deaths (30k bulk price) and 100 chaos (13.5k bulk price) Thats a 103.5k shot, and say it was a perfect recoil that lasted for 5 minutes.

 

 

 

Over powered, but your spending about 100k per 5 minutes!

 

 

 

Your argument wouldnt stand up here, and to me, it doesnt stand up on ancients.

 

 

 

My 2 cents :)

[m4tty]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

 

 

 

I use Mith Arrows and black d hide and I get absoutely owned.

 

 

 

Edit: And for the ppl who think a ranger could own an ice barrager go to CW teamed by Ice barrager and warriors forcing you to wear something like rune pl8 + Black d hide chaps.

 

you are 73 range, vs a 94+ mager using the best thing they can use, using the best thing you can use (karil bow/crystal bow/rune arrows) vs a person with their mage the same as your range using the best thing they can use (ice burst) you would kill them easily

[lol000999]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

 

 

 

I use Mith Arrows and black d hide and I get absoutely owned.

 

 

 

Edit: And for the ppl who think a ranger could own an ice barrager go to CW teamed by Ice barrager and warriors forcing you to wear something like rune pl8 + Black d hide chaps.

 

you are 73 range, vs a 94+ mager using the best thing they can use, using the best thing you can use (karil bow/crystal bow/rune arrows) vs a person with their mage the same as your range using the best thing they can use (ice burst) you would kill them easily

 

 

 

I'm talking about a mage with 70 magic. D hide and mith arrows can't even own them -.-.

[FrankyBrown]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

 

 

 

I use Mith Arrows and black d hide and I get absoutely owned.

 

 

 

Edit: And for the ppl who think a ranger could own an ice barrager go to CW teamed by Ice barrager and warriors forcing you to wear something like rune pl8 + Black d hide chaps.

 

you are 73 range, vs a 94+ mager using the best thing they can use, using the best thing you can use (karil bow/crystal bow/rune arrows) vs a person with their mage the same as your range using the best thing they can use (ice burst) you would kill them easily

 

 

 

I'm talking about a mage with 70 magic. D hide and mith arrows can't even own them -.-.

 

 

 

But still..70 mage using the best he can agaisnt a 74 ranger using mith arrows..Try using real arrows and see what happens :wink: (Karils or Cbow are what I use and I kill barragers-I'm only 80 range).

[lol000999]

This is what I've been thinking ever since they came out :roll:. Is a 30 damage 20 second snare and hits 9 targets fair? No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey dude =; anchents is not over powerd just get some d hide magic short and 300 steel arrows and your fine MAGE oWnZ

 

 

 

I use Mith Arrows and black d hide and I get absoutely owned.

 

 

 

Edit: And for the ppl who think a ranger could own an ice barrager go to CW teamed by Ice barrager and warriors forcing you to wear something like rune pl8 + Black d hide chaps.

 

you are 73 range, vs a 94+ mager using the best thing they can use, using the best thing you can use (karil bow/crystal bow/rune arrows) vs a person with their mage the same as your range using the best thing they can use (ice burst) you would kill them easily

 

 

 

I'm talking about a mage with 70 magic. D hide and mith arrows can't even own them -.-.

 

 

 

But still..70 mage using the best he can agaisnt a 74 ranger using mith arrows..Try using real arrows and see what happens :wink: (Karils or Cbow are what I use and I kill barragers-I'm only 80 range).

 

 

 

I'm not the one whos willing to spend millions just to win a CW game. I stick with mith arrows and maybe lower arrows :).

[cocacolabottle]

In my last game of Castlewars I was wearing Karils (121+ Mage defence) AND was praying against magic, and was still getting frozen 6 times by some guy in Mystic's Ice Bursts. Yes, I agree, overpowered.