Mordendravid Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 The point of leveling your skills is just that. You gain levels to make your character better. Since rs2 has come out, more and more people have come to admire richness over levels, with the rising prices of rares and such, and too much focus has been put on getting rich over getting levels. Stats that don't bring you profit aren't done as much, while everyone rushes to get 85 slayer or 91 runecrafting. Heh he, I see the point you're making but the bit about anyone "rushing" to 85 slayer or 91 runecrafting made me chuckle. Those skills don't rush anywhere :D Also, just for the record, number of 85+ slayers = apprx 4,500; number of 91+ runecrafters = 491. Number of 99 cooks: 4,300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noble_skull Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Black mask smashed 85 slayer into oblivion, it is NOT profitable anymore with the price of the rare monster drop (whip) in the lower 2m's. Hell, even iron dragons are more profitable than abbies now........... :-X And don't anyone dare to deny this... Proud member of The Slayer's Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordendravid Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Black mask smashed 85 slayer into oblivion, it is NOT profitable anymore with the price of the rare monster drop (whip) in the lower 2m's. Hell, even iron dragons are more profitable than abbies now........... :-X And don't anyone dare to deny this... How did the black mask smash slayer? Does the effect really make that much difference? (asking for information rather than being argumentative :D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noble_skull Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Black mask smashed 85 slayer into oblivion, it is NOT profitable anymore with the price of the rare monster drop (whip) in the lower 2m's. Hell, even iron dragons are more profitable than abbies now........... :-X And don't anyone dare to deny this... How did the black mask smash slayer? Does the effect really make that much difference? (asking for information rather than being argumentative :D) Well maybe that wasn't so fair, but noobs think they can turn it into an argument to greatly lower the whip's price. Proud member of The Slayer's Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksimon Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 PC ruined the hard work needed for high combat Pure ess ruined RCing The nerfing of the MSB killed ranged Ancients tipped the triangle a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pure_fett Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 PC ruined the hard work needed for high combat Pure ess ruined RCing The nerfing of the MSB killed ranged Ancients tipped the triangle a bit +1 pest control totallly destroyed hard work, now every pure that ever wanted 99 str is there and gets it [99 str] in a month, pc is the single thing that killed the rs combat system i don't play psykick anymore... i play 2ed: "pure fett" 26081 to get 99 herblore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteboy1102 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Wth? Cook X did no change to cooking, its not really a profitable skill anyways. Clicking on a shark then on a range doesnt take any moire or less time than cook x unless your not paying attention... How can you honestly say it hasn't had any impact to cooking? Just because it's not a profitable skill, doesn't mean that it hasn't been made 10 times easier by cook x. Not only do you just have to click 2 to cook a whole load of food now, but you can then also flick to forums to read them while you wait for them to be cooked, of couse it's made it easier, it's practically a legal autoing skill now. Then your also saying that skills such as woodcutting, fletching , and fishing are also "practically legal autoing". These days I don't like doing skills that require paying attention. Not because I'm lazy, it's because I like reading forums and books. One of the serveral reasons I don't talk much on Rs. And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris28 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Crafting is not a pointless skill. It is better than fletching in someways because alching green d hide bodies covers all the materials involved including the nats, whilst fletching barely covers the cost of the logs and bowstrings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigevil Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Pure ess killed RuneCrafting. -.- I agree. I think I'm gunna make a thread either here to try and get pure ess changed back How did pure ess kill rcing? So what it costs a little more to buy ess now , big deal. Stop being lazy and go mine it your self if you don't want to pay for it. I hate all the people that whine and complain, if you don't like the game go find something else to play. Personally I love it, I like all the skills, and I see no problems with any of them. Proud member of Affliction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Pure ess killed RuneCrafting. -.- I agree. I think I'm gunna make a thread either here to try and get pure ess changed back How did pure ess kill rcing? So what it costs a little more to buy ess now , big deal. Stop being lazy and go mine it your self if you don't want to pay for it. I hate all the people that whine and complain, if you don't like the game go find something else to play. Personally I love it, I like all the skills, and I see no problems with any of them. Pure ess didn't kill rcing, it killed wcing :XD: The Complete MTA Handbook | Runecrafting Pouch Analysis | Mobilizing Armies Locator Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iurgh9u3gh98 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 PC ruined the hard work needed for high combat I completly agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookrhino Posted September 14, 2006 Author Share Posted September 14, 2006 Amen to that. The only time I've ever done Pest Control was to see how long it took me to get 100 points. I despised doing it and never came back. So when I reach 100 Combat I will have basically done it without Pest Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inner_breed Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Pure ess didn't really effect rc. Most people rc manually, and if anything it just nocked 30 gp off of the profit. IF you guys remember back at the begining of rs2, nats were 200 gp each in bulk. Doesn't really effect the skill much. IF anything, pure ess is just a mining update that made mining essence much more profitable. Runescape veteran. Originally adventurer (and mage on other account), now pker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Pure ess didn't really effect rc. Most people rc manually, and if anything it just nocked 30 gp off of the profit. IF you guys remember back at the begining of rs2, nats were 200 gp each in bulk. Doesn't really effect the skill much. IF anything, pure ess is just a mining update that made mining essence much more profitable. On the contrary, pure essence had a huge impact on runecrafters. People went from having to spend 25 gp on essence, to 110 gp on pure essence, so it reduced their profit by 85 gp. That basically knocked off 1/4th of the gp they make. As any hardcore runecrafter would know, that's a lot. I now make almost 200k gp less per hour than I was making before rune essence came out. I think you can all agree, that 200k gp is a big difference (went from 700k to 500k, more or less). So yes, any runecrafter would know that pure essence had a huge impact. I have several friends who quit runecrafting all together since their profit decreased by so much. - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrezz Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Pure ess didn't really effect rc. Most people rc manually, and if anything it just nocked 30 gp off of the profit. IF you guys remember back at the begining of rs2, nats were 200 gp each in bulk. Doesn't really effect the skill much. IF anything, pure ess is just a mining update that made mining essence much more profitable. On the contrary, pure essence had a huge impact on runecrafters. People went from having to spend 25 gp on essence, to 110 gp on pure essence, so it reduced their profit by 85 gp. That basically knocked off 1/4th of the gp they make. As any hardcore runecrafter would know, that's a lot. I now make almost 200k gp less per hour than I was making before rune essence came out. I think you can all agree, that 200k gp is a big difference (went from 700k to 500k, more or less). So yes, any runecrafter would know that pure essence had a huge impact. I have several friends who quit runecrafting all together since their profit decreased by so much. maybe you should read the whole thread before posting Combat 93+ - Metal drag obsessed ;)Drops: D legs (1)R.I.P. Steve Irwin & Peter Brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbels Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 i can honestly sa, if you can and will get combat up in pc, you will get the 126cmb easy. only con in this is, that its boring!!!! i know 5 peeps, who have maxed either str (pures) or allmost all other combat skills up in pc under 1month, and 4 of them has nearly quit runescape. it drains you up! i personally got my 83-84 str there, and i got bored from it and made pure! (i got bored on it too :mrgreen:) making money is easy nowdays. ever been in dagannoth kings? i made pure 20mil in 3 days there. good xp (allmost compared to pc!) its fun, profitable and it helps you make stronger friendships in runescape. if you dont have equipment to go there, you can make money by woodcutting or picking flax or even fletching! buy yews 230ea, buy bs 170ea, makes huge 400gp. sell this freshly made bow to pure on hes way to 94 mage (550ea) and you have made 150 profit in 3 second (about how long it takes to make 1 bow approx.). this makes 20 bows in minute, and 1200 bows in hour. 1200 times 150 is 180k cash in 1 hour. now lets count how much cash you need to get all you need to dag kings. guthans (9mil) dds (55k) c bow (900k-180k each enchant, 1 bow lasts 4 runs = 45k-225k per run) sum= 9.055mil base, and ~135k each trip so to get started a hybrid needs 9190k to get started. 9190 / 180 = about 51hours. 51 hours pure work, and you have key to allmost unlimited cash. i personally get around 1-2mil stuff each dag king run. mage has smaller (1-1,5mil each run) profit, tho i never use mage in there. they have smaller chance of dying too! i have used around 5k hours on my account, i know so have you. or not, whatever. to get rich, you (me) need 1/100 part of boredness what you have played. since i started going dk, i have never seen poor day... this was 1 example, theres plenty of other moneymaking styles. going kq (4,5mil starter) fishing, mining, and even smithing cballs. many skills may be ruined, but theres as many left. please dont complain! now, im up to nardah and i will buy ice chunks and eat em! ps. when dag king rewards start being too small, wait for another big monster release or other moneymaking style remember, if you feel like it gets boring, stop playing! nobody forces you into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordfish666 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 i got only one thing to say Monkfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driverofdoom Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Runecrafting was obviously hindered by the Pure Essence update....although it probably hurt f2p'ers the most. However, if a 91+ runecrafter makes nats and buys pure essence, he will actually make more money now than before the update. Go figure. :? Awesome, my 93 Rc helps me then.. Never really thought about it.. Ok, before... Ess = 30 each, Nats = 300 each. One ess for Two nats, so 570 gp profit from one ess. NOW [Pure] Ess = 100 each, Nats 350 each. One ess for Two nats so 600 gp profit :thumbsup: I agree, not fair to Sub-91'ers, definatly not fair to F2P (the source of income for them is GONE) Those are just my thoughts on this :) http://sig.runeweb.net/sig/2/Driverofdoom.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinovUSA Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Runecrafting will never go back to its originality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Runecrafting will never go back to its originality... Which is kind of odd, considering they changed the pure ess to combat macro-ing... And less then a month after they upgraded their system so drastically, that they said macroing was going to be much much harder... if that was goign to happen, why did they change the ess in the first place? Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_Thomas9 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Pure ess killed RuneCrafting. -.- no, jagex killed runecrafting. Did they actually think they would get rid of the autoers? all they did was make lots of players mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkduellord Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 monkfish for fishing (if not already mentioned) Tip.it's 2nd unoffical Go player sm3x; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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