bookrhino Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 First of all, I've never watched South Park...the phrase just fit into my title. :P Runescape, as we all know, is rapidly changing. With constant updates, certain things are bound to be outdated, including skills. My question to you is simple: What update(s) do you think "killed" certain skills? Personally, I think the the Menaphie update (and later the Pyramid Plunder update) ruined theiving by making it too easy to level. Now any good updates to the skill will require an ourageously high level (This section of my post is dedicated to Esper_Jones). Smithing was devalued by not keeping up with the dragon and barrows armors and the availablility of rune armors from treasure trails. Crafting simply didn't have any consumable items (excluding battlestaves and bowstrings) and simply made it almost useless as a result. Firemaking was ruined when it was first released...although the Splitbark Armor has improved its standings slightly. Ranging....can be debated. Some people believe that the release of Desert Treasure and the DDS have off-set the triangle. I'm only 70 ranging, so I can't make a good judgement. Runecrafting was obviously hindered by the Pure Essence update....although it probably hurt f2p'ers the most. However, if a 91+ runecrafter makes nats and buys pure essence, he will actually make more money now than before the update. Go figure. :? Cooking was really hindered by the "Cook X" function, for obvious reasons... Agility, fishing, and mining...hmm...nothing I can think of. Etc, etc... Anyways, what is your opinion? P.S.: Whoever uses the :?: or :!: emoticons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tefda Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sorry Rhino, but I don't think any updates have really killed a skill. They generally are improvements, personally I like it when a skill becomes a little bit easier, helps my total skill levels :wink: I'm sure SOMEONE will argue that RS2 ruined Runescape but I AM NOT saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaddd Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Pure ess killed RuneCrafting. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookrhino Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 You're right! I forgot to add that in there...how stupid of me. #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostman Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I think the farming skill, in itself, was useful, yet stupid. First off, plants take forever to grow, and xp is not that easy to gain. Cook X made it better for training, but ruined it for those of us who got to our high cooking levels by clicking over and over again. They are making this game easier and easier -.- I agree that firemaking was ruined. I don't really see a point in it at all, at least not for f2p. Crafting is useful in some ways, because you can make range armor, some mage stuff, etc. Although the extent is limited. Smithing isn't that bad. The only problem is that too really make money, you need really high levels, or lots and lots of ore. Currently P2P. I don't want the world to see me, 'cause I don't think that they'd understand. Formerly known as: Ghstkill8, Serene Ghst, Genius Goats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcty Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No matter what an update does to a skill, a skill will never die. There will always be at least ONE person who uses or enjoys that skill. The question is practically untrue, as skills can be hurt but never die. ~Rcty Rcty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Firemaking killed Firemaking. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby1167 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Firemaking killed Firemaking.oh em gee, fire making ftw. I still :3> all skills.. Although RC is harder and more annoying All Quests completed99 Thieving achieved on January 10th, 200899 Defense achieved on August 3rd, 200885 Slayer achieved on July 31st, 20086 Dragon boot drops, 14 Whip drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4beanies Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm sure SOMEONE will argue that RS2 ruined Runescape but I AM NOT saying that. However, I am! :wink: , ah well, what can you do, rs2 is supposedly a good game too, right? right? *silence* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_bow80 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Ranging....can be debated. Some people believe that the release of Desert Treasure and the DDS have off-set the triangle. I'm only 70 ranging, so I can't make a good judgement. DT didnt kill rangers, the dds did. -.- You can still range through a ice barrage or watever. And with the dds you have 4 specs that hit 8 times. With the mage short, only 1 spec that hits 2 times..... 99 Pics - Range, Defence, HP, Attack, Magic, Strength, Cooking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercanon14 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Firemaking killed Firemaking. there is nothing wrong with fire makeing gets rid of logs easyer :thumbsup: DoD:S ownagewhat we have here is a ..um.. failur to communcate check out my steam ID page @ alpha company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflitny1 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Stop complaining and either play the game or quit, might sound harsh, but if you think everything is being killed, then play another game. Harsh, I know, flaming...perhaps, but I'm in a bad, bad mood today. Drops: Barrows: 60+ DK: 4... Dragon: 60+ Whips: 2... GWD: 0...ouch!Main Goal: 2000 total with no 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookrhino Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 *cough*bflitny1, don't vent your shortcomings on this thread.*cough* Anyways, nice repsonses. I've updated the list a little bit; I'll add more if more people post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessmastuh Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm sure SOMEONE will argue that RS2 ruined Runescape but I AM NOT saying that. However, I am! :wink: , ah well, what can you do, rs2 is supposedly a good game too, right? right? *silence* RS2 ruined RuneScape if you like poorly made 2D characters akwardly placed in a 3D background. The only one I can think of that truely ruined a skill was the mere fact that they ignored range for such a long time. Meh; it was intended to be a support skill, so I guess it'll be forever a support skill. Stunning signature created by the one and only My Boggy. Just like Columbus he gets murderous on purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper_Jones Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sorry Rhino, but I don't think any updates have really killed a skill. They generally are improvements, personally I like it when a skill becomes a little bit easier, helps my total skill levels :wink: I'm sure SOMEONE will argue that RS2 ruined Runescape but I AM NOT saying that. High thieving used to be DIFFICULT. Jack of all trades, master of thieving. 259th to 99 thieving. All stats 75+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabf Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No idea what you are on about Mr. Negative. I love all the skills (apart form rc #-o ) None of the skills have been ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashi Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Lol, I rarely do thieving, but I know what you mean about Esper. I was present at his 99 thieving celebration. :) My greatest ambition is to kill every member of the human race.However I am a realist and therefore know that I probably wont be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankyBrown Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm sure SOMEONE will argue that RS2 ruined Runescape but I AM NOT saying that. However, I am! :wink: , ah well, what can you do, rs2 is supposedly a good game too, right? right? *silence* RS2 ruined RuneScape if you like poorly made 2D characters akwardly placed in a 3D background. The only one I can think of that truely ruined a skill was the mere fact that they ignored range for such a long time. Meh; it was intended to be a support skill, so I guess it'll be forever a support skill. Carefull you'll set off the bitter RSC 'veterans' :lol: *hides* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I personally am glad that the secartures came out for farming. I dont really think that harmed farming exp much. Also to all those that say farming takes too long, well my friend, its the perfect skill to train when you dont get much time devoted to runescape. The xp grows while you work. I love it :!: Ha take that I used an emoticon! A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini193 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Pure ess killed RuneCrafting. -.- I agree. I think I'm gunna make a thread either here to try and get pure ess changed back Doing a little bit of everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman1053 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 how do you manage to conclude that 91 rcers make more cash after the pure ess disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magemachine6 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 fishing is alot easier in rs2 than classic in classic u had to keep clicking it didnt jsut auto fish untill ur full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n64jive Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 In your point of view, killing a skill=making it easy to level...or so it seems with cooking. Cooking was killed because of cook-x?...who cares if their are more people with 99 cooking...the skill itself is hardly profitable, as much as it can maybe just save you money. Theiving...how did pyramid plunder kill theiving...it gave the skill a better use in rs2...if anything, it's helped it. like many have said, skills dont die...they may suffer a beating, but they won't die....and in most of your examples, its things that have made the skill better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookrhino Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 how do you manage to conclude that 91 rcers make more cash after the pure ess disaster? +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Before Disaster: Price of Essence: 30 - 40 Price of Nature Runes: 300 Low End Profit: (300*2) - (40) = 560 gp High End Profit: (300*2) - (30) = 570 gp Average Profit: (300*2) - (35) = 565 gp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ After Disaster: Price of Pure Essence: 90 - 110 Price of Nature Runes: 330 - 350 Low End Profit: (330*2) - (110) = 550 gp High End Profit: (350*2) - (90) = 610 gp Average Profit: 580 gp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Yes, the low end profit in the "After Disaster" section is lower than that of the "Before Disaster" section, but there are a few things I should tell you. 1) The Average Profit of the "After Disaster" is higher. 2) The "Low End Profit" of the "Before Disaster" was much more reasonable than that of the "After Disaster"; in bulk amounts, essence was often 40 each right before the disaster. Today, very few people (that I know of, at least) buys essence for 110 each and sells bulk nats for only 330 each. 3) Right before the pure essence update there was a crash in the essence market...the price dropped from 50 each to 30-35 each. It was only starting to recover when the update came. I hope that helps... 8-) P.S.: By "die", I mean put into disuse or damaged to a certain extent by the updates, not completely obliterated. And yes, making a skill too easy to level is killing it--it only makes the skill more like firemaking. I would rather have it hard to level and have good rewards than be easy to level and then wonder a little bit why you did it. I should know; 80 firemaking... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman1053 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 sorry, i forgot that the prices of nats went up #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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