Prayer Drain has increased. ((Update)) Need Tester!!! @@

[slushee]

lol, it's been draining faster ever since the prayer menu update, me and leesters both mentioned it

 

 

 

here jagex blatantly lies lol

 

 

 

 

You trust Leesters over something that came from the actually creators of the game, Jagex?

 

 

 

lol yea sure

 

it's pretty obvious the rate is increased, i've experianced it for myself, if jagex did do something they wouldn't say it because they know how upset people would get

[Leesters]

lol, it's been draining faster ever since the prayer menu update, me and leesters both mentioned it

 

 

 

here jagex blatantly lies lol

 

 

 

 

You trust Leesters over something that came from the actually creators of the game, Jagex?

 

 

 

I think they don't know it changed.

 

 

 

I believe its a bug that showed up on the update, and they didn't plan on it. And unless people scream about it, they probably won't check for a bug due to the hoopla about the rumor.

 

 

 

Might not be for everyone, but my prayer drains MUCH faster now.

[gonpost]

*sigh*

 

 

 

You people and your persuadable minds.

 

 

 

Alright, you want proof? Here's proof.

 

 

 

This is a forumla that I came up with about 6 months ago for prayer drain rate.

 

 

 

[ 3 + (Prayer Bonus) x (1/9)] x {[Prayer Level] + [(Prayer Level) x (1/3) x (# of Prayer Pots) x (# of Doses)]} / 60 = Number of minutes your prayer will last

 

 

 

It worked very well.

 

 

 

Now, I just did a quick test - 30 prayer points drained in 107 seconds, with +5 prayer bonus.

 

 

 

That matches my formula that I created EXACTLY. Therefore, prayer drain rate has not changed.

 

 

 

If you want to know how I made that forumla, go here: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=424 ... ight=green

 

 

 

Scroll to "elusive prayer bonus" to see a very in-depth study that I did a long time ago.

 

 

 

EDIT: Btw, that forumla is for 60 drain rate prayers. I'm sure you can figure out the math for other drain rates.

[Smavey]

Oh what?! when i did the new quest today i used prayer against the lvl 62 monster ( i had to kick it to death because i was armour and weaponless!) and my prayer was dropping like mad but i thought it was just because i was fighting the slug.

 

 

 

But if this is what it's like now then it's pretty significant! because i was like :shock: :shock: when I saw it!

[gonpost]

Oh what?! when i did the new quest today i used prayer against the lvl 62 monster ( i had to kick it to death because i was armour and weaponless!) and my prayer was dropping like mad but i thought it was just because i was fighting the slug.

 

 

 

But if this is what it's like now then it's pretty significant! because i was like :shock: :shock: when I saw it!

 

 

 

No offense Smavey, but you provide a perfect example.

 

 

 

This prayer rumour has been around for a week or two now, so you should have noticed this "significant" change a while ago. It's only now that you hear that the drain rate may have been changed that you tend to agree with it. Did you also consider that you didn't have any prayer boosting equipment or weapons on you? That will obviously make your battle harder than usual. It's psychology.

 

 

 

Anyway, please read my post above. It proved that drain rate has NOT changed.

[Stilev]

i doubt its been increased

[Leesters]

*sigh*

 

 

 

You people and your persuadable minds.

 

 

 

Alright, you want proof? Here's proof.

 

 

 

This is a forumla that I came up with about 6 months ago for prayer drain rate.

 

 

 

[ 3 + (Prayer Bonus) x (1/9)] x {[Prayer Level] + [(Prayer Level) x (1/3) x (# of Prayer Pots) x (# of Doses)]} / 60 = Number of minutes your prayer will last

 

 

 

It worked very well.

 

 

 

Now, I just did a quick test - 30 prayer points drained in 107 seconds, with +5 prayer bonus.

 

 

 

That matches my formula that I created EXACTLY. Therefore, prayer drain rate has not changed.

 

 

 

If you want to know how I made that forumla, go here: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=424 ... ight=green

 

 

 

Scroll to "elusive prayer bonus" to see a very in-depth study that I did a long time ago.

 

 

 

EDIT: Btw, that forumla is for 60 drain rate prayers. I'm sure you can figure out the math for other drain rates.

 

 

 

You're gonna make me log in, aren't you? Hehe. Taking me outta retirement. I saw this post on the last thread like this, and never tested it on Leesters. I'll have to try it out now.

 

 

 

I'm almost convinced that this increased drain is only on some players, since people are so convinced one way or the other.

 

 

 

Need to find a +5 prayer bonus now. I'll post after I find out. IF I get on.

[InkofDeath]

hmm, this might explain my theory that all our accounts are based on a pattern, and when we click create account or w.e. we're randomly(or that way the computor does it lol)put into a pattern, that controls our drops, randoms, everything maybe, just a theory though.

 

 

 

that might be why SOME claim to have a slower drain rate or osme who claim to have the same, or why some claim to have a increased drain rate.

 

 

 

alright everyone think back to the fally masacre, only some chosen few could attack other players(i confirmed this awhile ago), this could support my pattern theory, that only some patterns got affected, i'm not saying a bug attacks a specific pattern, maybe bugs attack all patterns and thus most common, but there maybe those deranged bugs that only attack or infect certain patterns....................to me i think there's well over 5million types of patterns, although i think that the pattern nubmer increases, i also do not know if your pattern changes on what combat tpye u attack with or what, maybe when you do osmething your transfered to another pattern??????

 

 

 

Conspiracy theories shall rule tip its forum roflmao.

 

i'm felling dizzy sorry for spelling.

[zombs]

i'm fairly sure it has changed, and is draining faster, i used to use protection prayer AND inc str and att etc, that drained along nicely, but now it seems even with just the stat boosters, my prayer is rocketting down.... (i always use same stuff in cw)

[NukeMarine]

Gonpost,

 

 

 

Wow I forgot even replying to that thread. Good flashback as your research is the type I like to do. Gather the numbers, crunch them, spit out something useful others can benefit. I haven't gone Green Dragon hunting in awhile.

 

 

 

I have not noticed a decrease in the prayer drain. Usually rumors like that start with a moron (yes, I'm using the term correctly) posting that it "feels" like its faster, or slower, or not as often or whatever. Problem is they never tracked results so they're going off anecdotal evidence. Others jump on the bandwagon.

 

 

 

I do have an active Rant in the official forums. It's complaining about the lack of Ranger and Mages armor with prayer bonuses. Below it, I add that boosting prayers drain far too fast to be used by players. If enough rant or suggest it, perhaps Jagex will alter prayer to make the combat boosters slower to drain (like being a 20 instead of a 60 drain).

 

 

 

Granted, if the non-protect prayers become popular due to improvement, Jagex should alter the Prayer symbol in the selection menus to "Blink" every time prayer drops. Perhaps show your current prayer count too?

[imaleber]

It's good for me in fact prayer drains slower than usual :lol:.

 

 

 

Maybe the prayer drain depends on your combat lvl i really have no idea though.

 

 

 

No it doesn't.

[chenw]

I have been doing barrows since before and after the prayer update (in fact before AND after the prayer drain rumour). I have noticed zero difference in drain rate in prayer (both of the cases my equipment and prayer level were identical). I used to always watch my prayer when i am hitting dharok, but after the same number of casts, my prayer level was left at the exactly same level. There i conclude that prayer drain rate has not been altered in anyway.

 

 

 

This is unless +5 prayer bonus resulted in the prayer drain to remain the same before and after the update. If it were true however, it explains why prayer drain faster at low prayer bonus levels, but at high prayer bonus it should drain SLOWER.

[Kiriyama]

Chen is right. I ain't noticed a difference.

[silver24-7]

i has without a doubt, you can clearly tell when you turn your protect prayers on.

 

 

 

then how come I broke my record of amount of pray pots left when reaching jad in the fight caves ?

 

I think I had my mage protect on all the time from wave 30-62 and it didn't drain any faster then usual with the same outfit as always.

 

 

 

Silver

[lockheed301]

No change for me.

[The_g_unitpk71]

i really dont think that it was changed cause i use my prayers and they seem to las tthe same amount of time as they used to.

[Rebdragon]

If anyone here hasn't figured it out, what you "feel" doesn't mean SQUAT. Get some data to support your hypothesis, don't just assume something as a fact because you "feel" it's true.

 

 

 

Ex: Chen compared data from before and after the rumor, and no change was noticable at the Barrows. I, and probably most Barrowers, end up with a near precise amount of prayer left after certain kills (I'm almost always at 35 Prayer when I finish off Dharok) excluding rare mishap scraps. If no change in average drain occured in this scenario, and if enough data was collected (and I'll assume there was with 49 Barrows drops) then Chen's hypothesis has some solid support.

 

 

 

So everyone, stop posting what you "feel", and give us at least the slightest reason to even consider reading your post.

[hellbellz]

I'm sure it hasn't changed.. But the first day I lost 2 prayer points in less than like 3 seconds, no lie, was in Thzaar Caves

[Raven6666]

i will check out the claim as soon as i can, but if a +1 bonus gives about 4 more seconds, there is no change

 

 

 

i could last 4:44 with 63 prayer and +36 bonus, about 4:56 with a +39 bonus

[bflitny1]

It's good for me in fact prayer drains slower than usual

That's what I've been experiencing at barrows :) But when I killed the black dragon in RFD, I had full prayer (68) and it drained in about 3 secs, a friend went to check the next day and his prayer didn't drain like that (he was also doing RFD)

[Kiriyama]

It's good for me in fact prayer drains slower than usual

That's what I've been experiencing at barrows :) But when I killed the black dragon in RFD, I had full prayer (68) and it drained in about 3 secs, a friend went to check the next day and his prayer didn't drain like that (he was also doing RFD)

 

 

 

Yeah that was weird. I shoulda posted that before.

[katakid1]

Yeah... It is much faster

[wakka102]

its still the same, i use my prayer in my rune mining method and use 1-2 prayer doses per trip. I still used the same amount up until i got the new type of prayer boosting armor. Now use between 0-1 prayer doses a trip. So yea, its the same for me as its always been. I think the people experiencing this are experiencing a glitch.