Strength vs. Defense. FINAL SHOWDOWN

[Guitarted7]

okay...there are many people in runescape with pures...there are more strength pures than there are defense pures (tanks). Recently, i have been seeing more defense pures than strength, mostly in members world

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think defense ownes over time in the long run, longer fights

 

 

 

Strength will own in fast battles and in multicombat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

whats your opinion?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Strength Oriented:

 

 

 

TheLeader

 

 

 

hyper_flare1

 

 

 

Defense Oriented:

 

 

 

Guitarted7

 

 

 

FastForce

 

 

 

Uular

 

 

 

ir3land

 

 

 

runekille156

 

 

 

Jard_Y_Dooku

 

 

 

folmer_veeman

 

 

 

LordSoultar

 

 

 

blouinator

 

 

 

Bloodstain

 

 

 

wishkahbanks

 

 

 

Unitedite

 

 

 

mrmyk

 

 

 

Trojann2

 

 

 

runite

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ooo and....attack is the constant. assume all attack levels are the same

[FastForce]

Defence owns over time, but most people run out of fights when they are low on food. Strength is preffered since you can KO your opponent before he gets a chance to run.

 

 

 

Good defece owns in PvM. Strength for PvP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attack is another story..

[Uula]

Def!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But str is better for abyss pking, although that's just for noobs who can't pk :-w

[ir3land]

I think str is better, but I like def more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mainly because of that overpowered dragon dagger :-$

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So im going with Def.

[runekille156]

i have a tank and i own the pures just becuase of the defense i see them eating while im piling the hits on them but when pures hit they hit hard but with def it helps so im goin with def

[darkblade986]

I propose we settle this once and for all with a full out challenge. Two different people make 2 different accounts, each training 1 stat to say lv20. One trains to lv20 stg, the other to lv20 def. Then we send them to a fight in the Wilderness, each using the best items they can. Afterwards, they each will train to the next type of metal, and fight again, ect ect. This will solve the problem once and for all...

[TheLeader]

Strength ftw! :shock:

[runite]

Def is t3h skill! :) .. I like training it more than str, and it's more useful for me than str.

[atestarossa]

ok... this can be though about easy enough,.... the strenght/att pures reason to be made is that he/she can kill the other person before he can run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but to say, if you fight against npc's or are just looking to survive, a def pure would own... if a pure is not exsepting an attack, he/she will go down very fast, since it does have very low defence... while a def pure would survive, and be able to run away (as long there is no entangle/barrage in there

[mrmyk]

defence owns as you can see from my stats so im defence orientated :wink:

[softwarewiz]

def, because when u get above combat 70 ppl easily hit over 20's, 20 is what sharks heal. If u get hit over sharks say by 6 hits over( i.e 26) u wont be able to make up for that loss. If u have def they wont always hit over 20, making it that u can heal ur loss \

[Jard_Y_Dooku]

I propose we settle this once and for all with a full out challenge. Two different people make 2 different accounts, each training 1 stat to say lv20. One trains to lv20 stg, the other to lv20 def. Then we send them to a fight in the Wilderness, each using the best items they can. Afterwards, they each will train to the next type of metal, and fight again, ect ect. This will solve the problem once and for all...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sweet. One wears mithril. The other wears iron... who wins? Defense.

[folmer_veeman]

def owns, but for noob pking, str owns!

[Ts_Stormrage]

tbh to test pures out

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lvl 25 attack, 25 strength, 25 def, and 25 pray

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

would beat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lvl 1 attack, 99 strength, 1 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

a lvl 99 attack, 1 strength, 1 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

a lvl 1 attack, 1 strength, 99 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

a lvl 1 attack, 1 strength, 1 def, 99 pray

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Each person would use the best items they could carry.

 

 

 

At this point it becomes pretty obvious that pures would own.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now lets mix and match, who would win:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a lvl 50 attack, 50 strength, 1 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

a lvl 50 attack, 1 strength, 50 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

a lvl 1 attack, 50 strength, 50 def, 1 pray

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

50 attack and 50 def would win here due to the items he can wear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what conclusion can we draw from the data we've collected?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its not good to be a 100% pure, only if the circumstances are exactly right, which pretty much only happens in dueling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, if you MUST keep your combat level low, do it wisely.

 

 

 

Level 40 defense with high strength and attack would be good, especially with 70 range.

 

 

 

Strength alone isnt going to get you there. Attack could get you there as there are lots of items which give massive strength bonus to compensate. Defense will make you survive a combat for a long time, but you wouldnt be able to inflict much damage (super poisoned iron dagger anyone?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So my final conclusion, which pure is better. Choosing from Attack, Strength, Defense, and Controlled pure, I would have to say:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attack pures own.

 

 

 

Whip, glory, full iron, and a ton of tuna potatoes.

[Bloodstain]

I love defence, but lately i've been thinking of getting a new type of pking stats, probably 80 attack, and high defence and str (90+), then you get the best of everything :shock:

[Lunar_Drifter]

For a melee PKer, strength would be your best bet. The goal is to kill the opponent before he/she has a chance to run away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For staking, high defence is the best. Since there will probably be no running away as in the wilderness, you want to outlast your opponent rather than kill them quick.. But killing the first is still your goal :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Soo... I would say.. Strength AND Defence! 70 Attack, 99 Strength, 99 Defence!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:thumbsup:

[SF_Rmond]

lol nice twist Str/Def pure heh you would own anyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But for some reason I prefer balanced does balanced have a advantage over anything? (besides they lvl more and easier)

[drgnslyer_15]

i like attack lol.. here's how i weigh em atk def str thats how they should be could flip flop def and atk tho

[X_Freedom_X1]

If anyone wants to say Def pures own str pures I'm just gonna have to ask about the logic on that one :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyones heard or seen, Hiei The Pk who is a pure, killed a 126 in full Dharoks at mage bank. 99 Str and 99 Attack with 20 Defence, Vs a 99,99,99 with Dharoks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wheres your god now!

[000wnage000]

If anyone wants to say Def pures own str pures I'm just gonna have to ask about the logic on that one :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyones heard or seen, Hiei The Pk who is a pure, killed a 126 in full Dharoks at mage bank. 99 Str and 99 Attack with 20 Defence, Vs a 99,99,99 with Dharoks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wheres your god now!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i always thought if you had a higher attack then the opponents defence it does not matter :)

[iMeR]

Att/Str pures own for KOing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tanks own in DMs (fight til the deaths)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when it comes to PKing...ATT/STR pures get more kills..simply becuase people can run from tanks when they know they are eating a hell of a lot more than they are (also they wont be able to KO...since range really has no KOing weapon...along with mage.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

whats it called when your lets say 85att 45def 95str+? thats the stats im going for ..when i pk (with my current stats) i seem to do good against both (1 def and 70def pures)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

btw Ready 2 ryde is current 91 combat - 74att 47def 87str 93range 88mage (musta lagged when using the whip specs...somehow it got on defense and got me 2 def lvls :\)

[LordSoultar]

For staking and other non-wildy PvP situations, defence and attack usually have an advantage over strength. I'm not much of a pker, so I can be a def noob and not have to worry about having bad pking stats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(also they wont be able to KO...since range really has no KOing weapon...along with mage.)

 

 

 

Muggi posted a way to K0 with mage, here it is. You just attack with Ice Blitz followed by Shadow Barrage. The different speeds of the two spells make them hit almost at the same time, enabling you to hit up to 54.

[moopymitchell182]

If anyone wants to say Def pures own str pures I'm just gonna have to ask about the logic on that one :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyones heard or seen, Hiei The Pk who is a pure, killed a 126 in full Dharoks at mage bank. 99 Str and 99 Attack with 20 Defence, Vs a 99,99,99 with Dharoks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wheres your god now!

This just shows how flawed the combat system is. On rare occasion, this will happen, but it really shouldn't.

[blouinator]

def owns exspecially if u got hi lvl range

[anonymouse_]

99 def + range owns 99 att and str any day...