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It doesn't matter if religions are wrong!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what I see your argument as:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the link between the second and third points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Using your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why say you believe in a religion then, when you only believe in a god?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Politician are not thrustworthy --> A president says there's nothing wrong with the economy so you shouldn't sell your stocks --> You should sell your stocks immediately because it's 100% sure the market will crash within a few days.

I used to believe in god, well, im christened, but not out of my choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I used to not know whether or not to believe in Big G, i mean, how did we become what we are, look outside, things are mad, how did we make our first language? Puzzling stuff, sum1 once said answers to these questions were in the bible. This is where i realised there werent any answers in the bible, none relevant to todays world anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At the end of the day, if theres a god, why is there such a thing as unhappiness, grieving, pain... etc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But there has to be some ulterior motive to this world, we cant just live, then die and rot for eternity..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest i am clueless.

Live your life and make others a bit more bearable, in my view, we are all alone, we must look out for eachother because some Omnipotent being aint doing it for us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A world without god = Meaningless, Lonely, pointless, complex...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats why god was invented, to give meaning, give hope, make a point, make stuff easier to understand. I hate it, because its false hope, false logic, overshadowing the better issues of life.

It doesn't matter if religions are wrong!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what I see your argument as:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the link between the second and third points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Using your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thy argument is illiogical naive squire.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They believe that God was invented to give people power, and they misuse that power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion Invented ----> 'Superior' people rise -----> Superior people abuse their power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our arguments are based on the perspective that religion is false, your counter-argument is based on that you think it is true.

 

It doesn't matter if religions are wrong!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what I see your argument as:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the link between the second and third points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Using your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thy argument is illiogical naive squire.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They believe that God was invented to give people power, and they misuse that power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion Invented ----> 'Superior' people rise -----> Superior people abuse their power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our arguments are based on the perspective that religion is false, your counter-argument is based on that you think it is true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My counter-argument is based on that the whole religion thing is irrelevant to God's existence.

 

 

It doesn't matter if religions are wrong!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what I see your argument as:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the link between the second and third points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Using your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thy argument is illiogical naive squire.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They believe that God was invented to give people power, and they misuse that power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion Invented ----> 'Superior' people rise -----> Superior people abuse their power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our arguments are based on the perspective that religion is false, your counter-argument is based on that you think it is true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My counter-argument is based on that the whole religion thing is irrelevant to God's existence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion and God may be different things, but how can you believe in a God with nothing to back it up? Religion is your argument to Gods non-exsistence.

 

 

It doesn't matter if religions are wrong!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religions offer absolutely no proof that God exists!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is actually a logical fallacy known as straw man. You're attacking our weakest argument; ironically it's not even an argument.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what I see your argument as:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse religion --> religions say God exist --> God doesn't exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the link between the second and third points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People misuse politics --> polititians say a countries budget exists--> budgets do not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^ Using your logic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thy argument is illiogical naive squire.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They believe that God was invented to give people power, and they misuse that power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion Invented ----> 'Superior' people rise -----> Superior people abuse their power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our arguments are based on the perspective that religion is false, your counter-argument is based on that you think it is true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My counter-argument is based on that the whole religion thing is irrelevant to God's existence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you believe in a god without believing in a religion then I get the point you are making, but since all gods people talk about are bound to some religion it is not irrelevant...

I personally think spiritualism is a waste of time and there to comfort the weak and needy that there is a plan for them. I see no point in wasting time worshipping or believing. Alas though, if I did as my "christian" upbringing would suggest, I would still not go to church and worship, honestly, I think God, or Ahla or whatever would rather us spend our time improving ourselfs then going to church or praying. We shouldn't beg for forgivness, or ask for aid from "the all powerful one," only when we can break ourselves of dependancy can we advance in our capabilities.

 

 

 

The kind of self improvement I am speaking of is becoming more then we are in a physical and mental state, evolution if I may. As for the weak part, I was meaning I view anyone who is deeply religous as weak, if one is strong they will have no need to worry about a higher power, and focus merely on making themselves higher in power, I know my veiws are contraversial in this day and age, and alas, I have learned to keep my veiws to myself in my area, the deep south... if you ain't a devout Baptist and you speak out against it, not good lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, religion is an invention of man, ergo it is inherntly flawed. Any form of "religion" could just as easily be called a cult.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To put it simply, religion is bad, belief is good. Think about that for alittle.

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Well, religion is an invention of man, ergo it is inherntly flawed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thank you, Architect :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes i do believe in God. simple as that. dont bother arguing with me

Duke, have you ever heard of the concept of principle vs. application?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For example, the principle of aerodynamics is applied to airplanes, correct?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, if you look at two planes, and see that they are different, it would be absurd to conclude aerodynamics does not exist correct? The principle is just being applied differently. The same thing happens with a plane that cannot fly, the principle is still there, it is just being applied incorrectly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just like God and religion. People may apply it the wrong way, but by no means does it imply that God does not exist.

First of all, you're all quarrelling about that there is no proof that god does not excist. Well ofcourse, if something is not there, why do we need proof of it? Take for an example dinasaurs. They do not excist (at the moment). But yet, there is no proof that they not excist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The same for gods, do they excist. Do you have any proof that a God excists? No, because he doesn't. And if that happens, people are going in the way of; But can you proofe that God doesn't excist? First of all, all the people who believe, take some time and think about or there is proof of God excisting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People may believe what they think is right, but most of the time they let it poison in there minds.

 

Well, religion is an invention of man, ergo it is inherntly flawed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thank you, Architect :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes i do believe in God. simple as that. dont bother arguing with me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will no try to argue with you, each person is intitled to their own beliefs. While I have differnt beliefs I do not force them on others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if you are trying to make it seem as though I merely said ergo because it was in a hit movie, you are sorely mistaken.

 

 

Well, religion is an invention of man, ergo it is inherntly flawed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thank you, Architect :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yes i do believe in God. simple as that. dont bother arguing with me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will no try to argue with you, each person is intitled to their own beliefs. While I have differnt beliefs I do not force them on others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if you are trying to make it seem as though I merely said ergo because it was in a hit movie, you are sorely mistaken.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eh, just say therefore, we're all speaking English here not Latin ;).

you dont need proof for something to be real. but, proof is miracles, look at an old tree, thats a miracle. your a miracle. and read the bible, oldest piece of HISTORY ever. knowing without proof is called Faith. go get some. it can be found at your local church for the cost of $0.00

i debate god enough on yahoo community news boards along with homosexuality...i will not debate it here but i will say this much:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i do not believe in god but it do not deny the possiblity of a god (unless the person is a total jerk then i just get fed up and go total atheist)

WOW what an interesting post! Theres some good arguments here too

 

 

 

Personaly im agnostic, Im not going to argue whether there is a god or not basicaly because I'd be here forever and its 3 am and im tired. Also im not too sure myself. So there. happy arguing :)

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Duke, have you ever heard of the concept of principle vs. application?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For example, the principle of aerodynamics is applied to airplanes, correct?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, if you look at two planes, and see that they are different, it would be absurd to conclude aerodynamics does not exist correct? The principle is just being applied differently. The same thing happens with a plane that cannot fly, the principle is still there, it is just being applied incorrectly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just like God and religion. People may apply it the wrong way, but by no means does it imply that God does not exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you believe in a god without believing in a religion then I get the point you are making, but since all gods people talk about are bound to some religion it is not irrelevant...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand your point, but all gods people talk about are bound to some religion, therefore I can say it's unlikely that those gods those religions talk about exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Religion is doubtful --> What religions say is doubtful --> Some religion says that god exists --> It's doubtful that this god this religion talks about exists.

Mah mumma always told me to believe in myself,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So i guess i do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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frogact: You do realise the Paluxy River tracks were hoxes? Even most Creationists reject them. Study showed some were counterfeit carvings, others showed to be dino prints that weren't fully exposed.

you dont need proof for something to be real. but, proof is miracles, look at an old tree, thats a miracle. your a miracle. and read the bible, oldest piece of HISTORY ever. knowing without proof is called Faith. go get some. it can be found at your local church for the cost of $0.00

 

 

 

Knowing without proof is stupid...

 

 

 

An old tree, its old and its a tree? Theres a mirical there but I cant quiet see the mirical? Is it because its old?

you dont need proof for something to be real. but, proof is miracles, look at an old tree, thats a miracle. your a miracle. and read the bible, oldest piece of HISTORY ever. knowing without proof is called Faith. go get some. it can be found at your local church for the cost of $0.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A miracle is divine intervention, now wheres the proof any of the things you listed are miracles? Too many times I hear when doctors save a life its a miracle, the doctors did their job but instead these people twist it to serve their own religion.

you dont need proof for something to be real. but, proof is miracles, look at an old tree, thats a miracle. your a miracle. and read the bible, oldest piece of HISTORY ever. knowing without proof is called Faith. go get some. it can be found at your local church for the cost of $0.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Faith isn't knowing without proof...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Faith is believing without proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Believing without proof is ignoring logical reasoning.