Let's try looking at this practically. :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I assume our bank information is stored in only one [physical] place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 byte stores 256 combinations, or 2^8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are about 4000 different items that exist in Runescape. It's difficult to store things in half-bytes, so round it up. 2 bytes of memory (space for 64000).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are 2^32 - 1 possible amounts for an item (1 gp, 2 gp, etc.). 4 bytes of memory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It takes 8 bytes of memory for 1 bank slot for 1 person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are (i guess) 2million f2p players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So that would be around 16 Mb for 1 extra f2p banking space.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you give f2p 12 extra banking spaces, that would mean 192 extra Megabytes of storage, which isn't a lot. Please tell me if there's anything wrong with my assumptions or calculations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

192 Megabytes of memory is the equivalent of a decent USB, or flash drive. JaGex could easily (from a practical point of view) get this space. Extra bandwidth should be negligible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JaGex CAN easily give us more bank space. It's not that expensive for them, maybe a few hundred dollars. Whether f2p needs more bankspace, I don't think so. I have had to throw out my full zombie, but I can live without it. If you throw out nonessential items you will have enough space. Sure, I want more space but I don't need it.

I say they can finish that row of bankspace, and MAYBE add 1 more. Just to make them shut up. But then again, a month later they'll be "Can we have another row?" It's like giving a little kid something, they then want MORE. It becomes a bad habit. You give F2P something (Like the Security Stronghold which is good for some runes for them and for training) and then a month later they want ANOTHER UPDATE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was F2P for FOUR years. Yes, FOUR YEARS. Of my RS Career. And guess what? Back on RSC I of course ASKED FOR ATLEAST ONE MORE F2P QUEST. And guess what? It was the same back then "You don't pay for it so you won't get it." End of story. They don't pay for Runescape, so why do they deserve more updates? Oops, sorry, got off topic and began to rant! But as I said, Jagex could be nice enough to atleast finish that row of bankspace left, and maybe give them one more extra row.

100 f2p bank space would be nice. Obviously not for me but for all the f2pers out there.

 

 

 

Almost it would be nice for more member bank space....I can't afford higher construction.

member isnt all about bank space... and when you dont keep junk on your bank you wont need more then 60 spots (my bank is full and ive loads of random event stuff, if i didnt have that i would only need 40 spots)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no bank space :D better give us better canous or skill capes :thumbsup:

No. No way. I do not support f2p getting any more bank space any more than I support them getting new quests/new items/new skills. I realize that I may sound like a stuck-up, snotty member, but that is just how I feel. I recently made that transition from p2p to f2p and back again so I know how much it sucks to be f2p and have so many restrictions. It is designed that way for a reason. F2p is supposed to be as painful as it possibly can so that the person that is playing it is encouraged to sign up for p2p so that Jagex can get more money. It is a business. So suck it up and stop complaining or buy members. Or quite playing.

Keith got the point minus good grammar minus good spelling minus following forum rules. :lol:

 

 

 

Jagex doesn't want to admit it, but F2P is just as essential as P2P in terms of making money. They have to pay the people who work at Jagex.

 

 

 

Ads make a lot of money for Runescape because advertisers realize the number of people that play Runescape and who will see the adverts.

 

 

 

IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~infamous

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't think my spelling and grammar was that bad. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, like I've said: The excuse people normally use for F2P not getting more bankspace is that it will make Jagex lose money. That's not true however. They would make money.

As ive said in my first post. Keith is essentially correct. I think that the money that members bring to the game is negligible and barely pays to keep thier accounts on the server. JaGex makes thier money through adverts...thats it, members do not pay for the game, they pay for the right to keep thier accounts on the server. F2P pays for the game, updates and such.

I think f2p does need more bank space, or maybe when you store a random event outfit it shouldn't count as a space. I REALLY don't want to drop my lederhosen, mime mask, or my few frog hats. everything other than random event outfits i need.

I am a complete-all f2per, and to keep training all skills I need a lot of items. It just doesnt fit! I destroyed all my holiday items to fit my tems in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If they only would do something for the random event items just like the holiday items it would be much less of a pain.

Well, out there to anybody who's ever had members, or even so, in reality, getting 400 bank spaces is a one-time fee of $5.00... or $7.30.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You simply get double of all the items that you'll need in f2p, and hey, you'll get to enjoy members for a little while.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While this isn't practical, and getting two of everything may seem hard, it isn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While this isn't practical, and getting two of everything may seem hard, it isn't.

 

 

 

Oh, believe me. It is. Getting a second santa hat and blue mask is nearly impossible. :wall:

First off, no one needs holiday items or random event items.

 

 

 

Which is why I don't keep them anymore.

 

 

 

After the santa hat it became aware to me that I wouldn't be able to sell any of them for huge amounts of profit. ^^ Probably a bad reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But the other one is yes, the bank space issue.

 

 

 

Personally I would love to have more space, maybe not as much as members but like 33% more maybe? We could find a nice little compromise in the middle, we get a bit more space and the members still get a hell of a lot more than us. It would probably stop a few people from going to members, but at least f2p worlds would be a lot happier places to be.

Bank space is badly needed in f2p. I was a freeplayer for over a year, so believe me I know. They get about 1/8 of what members got, and this is absurd, even for a free game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It wouldn't be that hard to add another row or three.

Some more bank space would be nice, yes. I've always been F2P, so I've always been stuck with the same amount of space. But, considering we have access to so many less items than members, relatively speaking, it's not too bad. I'm not saying it's more than enough, but it isn't too bad. In a good way, it's forced us to prioritise items and dispose of less beneficial ones. But that's another topic, so, hmm. Yes, space is always good.

I am ok witht the space as i JUST managed to keep all the things i need however i cant go "naked" meaning i still need to wear some clothing like d'hide or randoms whenever i am skilling.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I managed to store: 1. geepees

 

 

 

2. runes of each type

 

 

 

3. all ore types except blurite and copper,tin

 

 

 

4. steel bars, gold bars but no silver bars

 

 

 

5. yo-yo

 

 

 

6. mime w/o mask, frog tokens, leder w/o hat(zombies are ugly XD threw them. prince too)

 

 

 

7. silverlight, all runite weapons except short and 2h

 

 

 

8. full armor w/o helm, 1 rune med

 

 

 

9. str pots, sceptre staff and skullheads

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wear my fulldhide whenever i am skilling as i dont have any more space to keep them but i have no problems there. I also have to keep a off-hand weapon in my invent in case of Randoms monsters. And yeah if i can do it, so can most people i guess. just needed to work a bit harder there~~ however i wont complain if the row is completed though. \

Bank space is badly needed in f2p. I was a freeplayer for over a year, so believe me I know. They get about 1/8 of what members got, and this is absurd, even for a free game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It wouldn't be that hard to add another row or three.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Members get over 8 times as much stuff that they need to store. F2P has less stuff, so we get less bank space. :-s

I find it completely inane that JaGeX should release more and more extravagant costumes to free players and NOT allow more bank space to accomodate them. Yes, we're not paying for it, but don't the developers have a little common sense?

I find it completely inane that JaGeX should release more and more extravagant costumes to free players and NOT allow more bank space to accomodate them. Yes, we're not paying for it, but don't the developers have a little common sense?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of the new items F2P gets are holiday items, which can all be destroyed and gotten from Diango again.

Yea f2p should get more spaces , mime camo and zombie armor take much space if you want to keep it :|

 

I find it completely inane that JaGeX should release more and more extravagant costumes to free players and NOT allow more bank space to accomodate them. Yes, we're not paying for it, but don't the developers have a little common sense?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of the new items F2P gets are holiday items, which can all be destroyed and gotten from Diango again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Random event prizes?

What's so intellectually debatable about this? Hasn't this topic been beaten to the ground already anyways? I'm sure there's an already existing 20+ page long thread just because everyone has an opinion about it. That doesn't make the issue interesting at all.

 

 

 

Obviously jagex is out there to convert f2p to members. They're not 'forcing' anyone. They're just giving people huge incentives to become members. By being f2p, they have no room for complaint because they're acknowledging they're not paying for the full game - only a trial of the full game. They shouldn't expect anything more. End of thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

QFE

I honestly think that we do.

thats a good idea but in rs forums not here :-X

I'd be nice if you could buy one row for like 100k, so people could get space if they worked for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, f2p'ers shouldn't complain since they aren't paying anything. If they want more, pay.

Hmm... Maybe give at least the rest of the last row that f2p gets. That's only 4 items or so, but that's all that's "needed."