9/11 Commision LIES

[monkeypie10]

You should see the movie " Loose Change " on google video. Great documentary , exactly about this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand :oops:

[The Dark Lord]

Maybe the government payed the conspiracy sites to say that about them so people think the government is all-powerful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol:

[pault]

 

 

 

Because insurers are set to pay around $861 million to Silverstein for the lost building 7, debt on the property is around $383 million.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now why not do it? It does not take long to set up a controlled demolition if you have experience with buildings, know similar layouts, and do not have to gut it. Gutting the building is what takes several months. Comparing the trapezoid WTC7 to the countless other buildings CDI has imploded, it would be easy for them to locate and know what supporting columns to collapse. Setting up explosives is as easy as drilling a hole in the column and wiring it.

 

 

 

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That is an interesting theory, which if true supports my position that the 9/11 commision is full of holes, and is hardly a definitive accurate report on one of the most important events of our times. Either way, the official explanation is bs, and they had plenty of time to investigate Silverstein and explain exactly what happened within the report. They should have subpoenaed him and questioned him fully.

[Satenza]

 

 

If you really want me to comment on the facts you posted..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NO!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously I posted them so bickering children could tell me not to feel bad that I'm an idiot for making a controversial and interesting post full of facts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A fact is the absolute truth. Example: H2O is water. That is a fact. What you're posting is what the media has told you. The media does not have to tell the absolute truth. They can twist their words..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're admitting you could be a subject of media lies aswell? Stop acting like you know everything and either contest some of the 'facts' he posted or stop posting in this thread. All you have done in this thread is insult the poster, while not offering any discussion other than flames.

[Mercifull]

I feel really sorry for all those people that truely belive all that bunk :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To bring up just one point because i cant be arsed explaining what others already have...

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

[monkeypie10]

I feel really sorry for all those people that truely belive all that bunk :(

 

 

 

To bring up just one point because i cant be arsed explaining what others already have...

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What right do u have to say that? You ignorant, one-sided freak. You can't make assumptions before actually looking at the facts! I hate all people like you in the world, you just make your decision before you even look at it. I for one don't believe that 9/11 is a conspiracy, but still, atleast im not as ignorant as you.

[honeo]

 

I feel really sorry for all those people that truely belive all that bunk :(

 

 

 

To bring up just one point because i cant be arsed explaining what others already have...

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What right do u have to say that? You ignorant, one-sided freak. You can't make assumptions before actually looking at the facts! I hate all people like you in the world, you just make your decision before you even look at it. I for one don't believe that 9/11 is a conspiracy, but still, atleast im not as ignorant as you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, he wears a gold ring on one of his fingers (can't remember which ATM). But it goes against his religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is the Video: Loose Change

 

 

 

(It's Approx. 1 hour. So save some time to watch it :wink: )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is some pretty convincing evidence in this movie. But meh, believe what you would like =).

[Mercifull]

For the record I HAVE looked at the facts. The facts prove there was no conspiracy. Anecdotal evidence, complete rubbish about aircraft crash dynamics by people who dont know what they are talking about and claims that Bin Laden tapes are fake because he eats with the opposite hand than usual are no facts. Making personal attacks against me just shows how ignorant you are.

[Kiriyama]

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats easy, I even once had to do a quick drawing with my right hand, thats quite hard to make it look right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway will people ever stop saying 9/11 is a conspriacy? Why would Bush kill his own citizens? It would be a waste of airplanes. Whats the next conspriacy theroy gonna be? Saddam still being alive? Hitler being alive? Conspriacy Theroies(sp?) are made up junk half the time because a person hates that Country/State/whatever.

[Albosky]

 

I feel really sorry for all those people that truely belive all that bunk :(

 

 

 

To bring up just one point because i cant be arsed explaining what others already have...

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What right do u have to say that? You ignorant, one-sided freak. You can't make assumptions before actually looking at the facts! I hate all people like you in the world, you just make your decision before you even look at it. I for one don't believe that 9/11 is a conspiracy, but still, atleast im not as ignorant as you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what right do YOU have to attack Mercifull's point of view ? In a debate such as this, users are going to have opinions that differ from yours, so is life. Personally attacking his intelligence and YOUR assumption that he did not know the facts was totally out of line and I personally think you owe him an apology for doing so. If this topic is to remain open , I think you should all keep an open mind and stick to the topic at hand and not the character of the people replying to it.

[timmay929]

More conspiracies...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The one about the hijackers being alive.... just no.. no one lives after crashing into a building. Until I see proof of them alive, that's false. Everything now a days is a conspiracy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The next conspiracy:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SUPER BOWL CONSPIRACY!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That wasn't Peyton Manning, that was Dan Marino! Then someone will make a book about it and everyone will believe it.

[Mercifull]

Actually a surprisingly high number of people survive the impact of a plane crash. Its the fire, smoke and falling objects that actually kill most people

[Errdoth]

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats easy, I even once had to do a quick drawing with my right hand, thats quite hard to make it look right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway will people ever stop saying 9/11 is a conspriacy? Why would Bush kill his own citizens? It would be a waste of airplanes. Whats the next conspriacy theroy gonna be? Saddam still being alive? Hitler being alive? Conspriacy Theroies(sp?) are made up junk half the time because a person hates that Country/State/whatever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, this kid at school won't shut up about that one.

[Doughnut]

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats easy, I even once had to do a quick drawing with my right hand, thats quite hard to make it look right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway will people ever stop saying 9/11 is a conspriacy? Why would Bush kill his own citizens? It would be a waste of airplanes. Whats the next conspriacy theroy gonna be? Saddam still being alive? Hitler being alive? Conspriacy Theroies(sp?) are made up junk half the time because a person hates that Country/State/whatever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol, this kid at school won't shut up about that one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does it matter that Hitler would be 100+ right now? :roll:

[Errdoth]

try telling that to him

[Mercifull]

Of course being 117 isnt 100% unfeasable but incredibly unlikely.

[Wachtwoord]

I have one problem with all those theories.

 

 

 

Why would the US government do something like that? I can see a reason for attacking Iraq; oil. But killing thousands of people and millions of damage, for attacking Afghnistan? I don't see a reason, maybe to be able to take out Bin Laden. But what could he do? The worst he could do is killing thousands of people himself, so that's no reason to kill yourself. Deffenitly not people of you're own country.

[pault]

I have one problem with all those theories.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have only presented one theory; that the 9/11 commission report did not fully investigate the terrorist attacks against the US, and they lied about or removed much of the information they did uncover. This I have already proved several times. One only needs to go to the NIST (government funded research organization) and see that they have no explanation of how WTC7 fell (because if you believe the official government story, there is no explanation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOTE: The NIST investigation of the WTC 7 building collapse is not yet complete. The report on the WTC 7 collapse investigation will be released in draft form for public comment and posted on this web site as soon as it is available.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The implication here is that the government isn't yet prepared to explain what happened. That means the 9/11 commission report was the furthest thing from a complete and accurate report on the events of September 11 . Instead it ignored the unexplainable occurances, failed to subpoena the most important evidence of the attacks, such as film from a gas station near the pentagon, Larry Silversteins explanation of how WTC7 fell, and interviews with firefighters and witnesses who were at the scene. Instead it's full of garbage like George Bush telling us how excellent the pilot that hit the pentagon was, because he was a pilot too and he knows how hard flying is. Wake up and realize that it isn't that farfetched to believe the US government would lie to it's people. Remember the Maine? The ghost ships that helped cause the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are also important questions of common sense which were not answered by the 9/11 commission. For example, the terrorists who crashed a plane into the Pentagon flew over a nuclear power plant on the way there. Crashing into the plant would have killed more people, caused more destruction, and generally would have been a much more terrifying plan than crashing into the under-construction area of the pentagon (which the pilot of the hijacked plane, who coincedentally failed out of flight school, had to execute an extremely difficult maneuvre to hit). Why did the terrorists fly over this obviously more attractive target? According to the 9/11 commission report, they were worried it was defended by anti-aircraft defense. And the pentagon isn't? There is no way the plane could have hit the pentagon unless something went very wrong with the Pentagons defensive systems, but the 9/11 commission ignores this obvious logical problem.

[honeo]

I have one problem with all those theories.

 

 

 

Why would the US government do something like that? I can see a reason for attacking Iraq; oil. But killing thousands of people and millions of damage, for attacking Afghnistan? I don't see a reason, maybe to be able to take out Bin Laden. But what could he do? The worst he could do is killing thousands of people himself, so that's no reason to kill yourself. Deffenitly not people of you're own country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives the US government a reason to invade Iraq. So it doesnt just look like we are going after the oil. By making us think that Terrorists did this, it makes us mad and pissed off, so we believe anything.

 

 

 

*Note, I am not saying the Terrorists don't attack our country, just didn't do this specific attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can give some "coincidences" that may shock you, but only if its aloud. (And no, not the stupid "9/11=911!!!11" thing. Other shocking stuff)

[Viktorkrum77]

 

I have one problem with all those theories.

 

 

 

Why would the US government do something like that? I can see a reason for attacking Iraq; oil. But killing thousands of people and millions of damage, for attacking Afghnistan? I don't see a reason, maybe to be able to take out Bin Laden. But what could he do? The worst he could do is killing thousands of people himself, so that's no reason to kill yourself. Deffenitly not people of you're own country.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives the US government a reason to invade Iraq. So it doesnt just look like we are going after the oil. By making us think that Terrorists did this, it makes us mad and pissed off, so we believe anything.

 

 

 

*Note, I am not saying the Terrorists don't attack our country, just didn't do this specific attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can give some "coincidences" that may shock you, but only if its aloud. (And no, not the stupid "9/11=911!!!11" thing. Other shocking stuff)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, you conspiracy theorists go on and on and on about what is wrong. But have you ever explained, if so, how the USA pulled this off? It's way not as easy as you would imagine. I've never heard once an explanation as to a way they did it. And I can't rebuttal in lack of said explanation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So am I to assume Osama Bin Laden is being played by Eugene Levy?

[Shin]

JEWS DID WTC

[KCHughes]

 

 

I feel really sorry for all those people that truely belive all that bunk :(

 

 

 

To bring up just one point because i cant be arsed explaining what others already have...

 

 

 

Osama Bin Landen is left-handed, it shows it in his report for one of the most wanted in America. Yet in the confession video, he eats, drinks, and writes with his right hand

 

 

 

I am left handed. Yet I always eat, drink, play sports and sometimes even write (albeit rarely) with my right hand. oh noes, conspiracy!!!111oneoneeleven

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What right do u have to say that? You ignorant, one-sided freak. You can't make assumptions before actually looking at the facts! I hate all people like you in the world, you just make your decision before you even look at it. I for one don't believe that 9/11 is a conspiracy, but still, atleast im not as ignorant as you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, he wears a gold ring on one of his fingers (can't remember which ATM). But it goes against his religion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is the Video: Loose Change

 

 

 

(It's Approx. 1 hour. So save some time to watch it :wink: )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is some pretty convincing evidence in this movie. But meh, believe what you would like =).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for corrupting the minds of hundreds of innocent forumgoers. It's a good thing I'm here: Loose Change Debunked

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everything you need to disprove 9/11 conspiracies.

[None2None]

Do I believe it is true? no. I believe that America was attacked by Osama Bin Laden (not Saddam ) and thousands of people were killed. Bush would have blamed it on Iraq if he was to make it a conspiracy :roll: .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the other hand I will say that many of the conspiracists and their theorys are very thought provoking. Loose Change (I know it has been mensioned but I would like to bring it back up) was not a simple "Oh! Lets make a video and try to start something!" video. It was well thought out and had (and has) some very compelling arguments. Lets just say that not all people who believe in these theories are stupid ;) .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But again, for me, it isn't good enough to disprove the thousands of deaths that day and the many more that came after.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Why is everyone so hostile in these threads? Try to open your mind to other ideas and suggestions. Not only will you have learned something new, but you also will be able to have a good debate in the future on relative or similar subjects. Again I reiterate - debates, not arguments. :) )

[Viktorkrum77]

Well, after seeing this, I think I have changed my mind that WTC7 was not a controlled demolition. This sites shows images I had never seen before, images are what I look at as the best proof.

[None2None]

Well, after seeing this, I think I have changed my mind that WTC7 was not a controlled demolition. This sites shows images I had never seen before, images are what I look at as the best proof.

 

 

 

That's a good site, but actually, the reason that it is believed the guildings fell like they did was suspected that the heat of the explotion, the continuous fure and the impact was enough to destroy fire-proofing and actually soften the steel beams that were holding up the building, I forget exactly how long the buildings remained standing was, but it was much longer than having an immediate physical movement causing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I still keep my theory, but also will suggest that that site does not go totally 100% off truths, but partially off of assumptions and what certain (maybe reputable) people think. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(And just the fact that this many sites exist disproving the theories shows the impact that they had on many people [no, thoes people were not nessarily dumb ;) ])