Underage pregnancies

There was a topic a while back about the wellfare system, however I want to look at a certain aspect of it and that is the amount of money being pumped into stupid young girls that get themselves pregnant.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edi ... 764417.stm

Some interesting quotes from that article

"11 year old impregnated"

"mother proud of her daughter"

"girl smokes 20 cigarettes a day"

Around where I live whenever I cycle to college I cycle past an area of town where these kind of people dwell. I see lots of teenage mothers walking around and it irritates me to think that they go out (at taxpayers expense) and get themselves pregnant and live their lives on benefits. For example I saw this one girl about my age (16) and she already had a child running around her as well as the fact she was pregnant with another one. They go and reproduce more hooligans to terroise the country that I live in and i'm sick of it. Literally hundreds of millions of pounds are given to these people for them to waste and I think it should be cut down. There are so many other things that the money could be spent on to help others that need it, not wasting it on people that will throw it back in our face by reproducing more kids. Perhaps only people that live in the U.K can relate to what i'm saying, perhaps not...

A solution to this would be to force all women/girls under the age of 18 that become pregnant to have an abortion. It would save the country more money to spend on the people that genuinelly need help.

Any thoughts on underage pregnancies or idea's of what action could be taken?

Nah, the solution is to never have sex. Never. Whats more, don't make contraception available to those under 21 - now there's an incentive to not have sex. Sex is a temptation of the devil.

Or so the sickening religious right would have it.

Holland has the lowest teen pregnancy rates in the western world, and all kids get sex ed in the first or year of high school (12-13 years old), including hygiene, anticonception and STDs. I think we might be on to something here :-k

90% of the time (at least here in US) a teenage pregnacy is due to couple having sex for fun. Then they get pregant and are all "sad" and confused how they got it. I think they should give birth to the child (so she suffers), and put it for adoption (babies get adoped the most).

umm some people have sex maybe to bring relationship to the next level or something. I guess it is their fault if the don't use contraception properly but if you're a guy .. I don't think you understand what it's like having a fetus grow inside of you, when soon it becomes a baby. So you're saying kill all fetuses/babies just save a some money? I think abortions should be allowed, but only whether the woman would want it.

And not all teenage mothers are "stupid young girls" btw

Underage pregnancy is pretty darn scary :ohnoes:

Nah, the solution is to never have sex. Never. Whats more, don't make contraception available to those under 21 - now there's an incentive to not have sex. Sex is a temptation of the devil.

 

 

 

Or so the sickening religious right would have it.

So basically, you posted a solution you don't believe in, in a sarcastic manner just for the sake of criticizing Catholics? I mean, it wasn't even brought up yet!

And did you, or did you not, take in the fact that the article mentioned an 11-year old that was pregnant? Do you really think that we should be encouraging 11-year olds to have sex?

I knew it would be mentioned sooner or later, so I figured I'd get in there real quick with a nice sardonic response because that would mean I win. That's how it works you know.

As for criticising catholics it was doing nothing of the sort. My girlfriend is a catholic and none of her family, nuclear or extended, promote such hilarious ideologies. I criticised those who promote abstinence as a method of contraception.

 

As for criticising catholics it was doing nothing of the sort. My girlfriend is a catholic and none of her family, nuclear or extended, promote such hilarious ideologies. I criticised those who promote abstinence as a method of contraception.

Ah, I thought you were referring to those that believe sex is for procreation only - and that is a strictly Catholic belief, within Christanity at least.

But you can't deny, abstinence is a decent method of contraception :P

Yes, I can very well deny it.

What percentage of teens will try being abstinent, think they can do it, then finally give in to their natural urges and have no contraception to hand? How does it compare to fully prepared sex with contraception then?

Abstinence as an individual's life choice = fine and even somewhat respectable. Abstinence promoted as a way to stop teenage pregnancies = pre-1950's mentality.

 

A solution to this would be to force all women/girls under the age of 18 that become pregnant to have an abortion. It would save the country more money to spend on the people that genuinelly need help.

 

 

 

Any thoughts on underage pregnancies or idea's of what action could be taken?

Forcing someone to kill a life doesn't seem very nice to me. Saving money? Well, I'm against the whole welfare system we have today anyway. Not the idea but the process.

Put up the baby for an adoption.

A two hour presentation on how to use a condom would be cheaper for the state than 18 years of welfare support.

What percentage of teens will try being abstinent, think they can do it, then finally give in to their natural urges and have no contraception to hand? How does it compare to fully prepared sex with contraception then?

That's really not abstinence then is it.

Do you really think that we should be encouraging 11-year olds to have sex?

Do go ahead and quote where I said that. I'll be waiting.

That's really not abstinence then is it.

Figure that one out all by yourself? =D>

Nah, the solution is to never have sex. Never. Whats more, don't make contraception available to those under 21 - now there's an incentive to not have sex. Sex is a temptation of the devil.

 

 

 

Or so the sickening religious right would have it.

Do you really think that we should be encouraging 11-year olds to have sex?

The Netherlands, where sexuality education begins in preschool and is integrated into all levels and subjects of schooling, boasts the lowest teen birth rate in the world ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ã

Do you really think that we should be encouraging 11-year olds to have sex?

 

Do go ahead and quote where I said that. I'll be waiting.

It was a conclusion I drew from your sarcastic remark. If abstinence as contraception is laughable, then instead we should be encouraging the use of other contraceptive methods, all which include sex. Since the article (or part of it) was about an 11-year-old pregnancy, I figured that if you were being on topic, you were relating it to the quoted 11-year-old that was pregnant.

That's really not abstinence then is it.

 

 

 

Figure that one out all by yourself?

He was merely pointing out that abstinence as contraception isn't laughable, because it works 100% of the time. You say it fails because teens aren't able to control themselves, but that isn't because abstinence is laughable, it is because the self-control some teens have nowadays is laughable.

but that isn't because abstinence is laughable, it is because the self-control some teens have nowadays is laughable.

And? Those are the teens that need to stop having babies and so they are the ones that the solution has to work for.

That's exactly why I described abstinence as pre-1950's - something that may have worked before but isn't suited to the youths of today.

lol silly kids, sex is for grown-ups

(kids get trix grown ups get sex)

that was dumb of her she had sex at age 11 and didnt even protect herself from getting pregnant and her mother isnt even dissapointed that she got pregnant from a 15 year-old boy

lol silly kids, sex is for grown-ups

 

 

 

(kids get trix grown ups get sex)

That one made me laugh :lol:

The problem is mainly that kids are physically maturing quicker then they are mentally now. Ten years ago, it would have been odd to see a girl that had filled her A cup in yet at the age of 10, now, you see that and more sometimes :|

They act on the urges of their body before they can actually understand what they are doing, and how it changes them. Then it just becomes another act in the growing up process and it never begins to mean anything.

A solution to this would be to force all women/girls under the age of 18 that become pregnant to have an abortion. It would save the country more money to spend on the people that genuinelly need help.

Although I don't have any real suggestion to helping the problem, I absolutly dissagree with this. Some people are able to live with the knowlage that they killed something they created(btw, not saying abortion is right or wrong, just my thought on it). I couldn't. An abortion is just an easy way out for many people anymore. They don't have to live with the consequences of their actions. If my gf ever became pregenate(sp) an abortion would always be out of the question. We made a mistake, and we are going to have to live with it.

What the goverment should do instead of givign the teenage mothers money and supporting them all their life is to have daycare centers set up so that the mother can finish her schooling and be able to help out in society. Many young people cannot face the stress that school, a child, and work puts on them, but I have a 17 year old friend with a 1 year old child. She and her husband are both succeeding very well, so it's not like it is impossible.

Underage pregnancy is pretty darn scary :ohnoes:

Agreed :-X

Kinda scary, since I'm 13, to hear that there is people my age having sex. :ohnoes:

I'd prefer to have sex once I'm actually married. Not before.

Education doesn't equal encouragement. Fact is that sooner or later, every teenager will begin to feel sexual urges. Treating their ignorance is the best way to prevent them from hurting themselves.

The Netherlands, where sexuality education begins in preschool and is integrated into all levels and subjects of schooling, boasts the lowest teen birth rate in the world ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ã

but that isn't because abstinence is laughable, it is because the self-control some teens have nowadays is laughable.

 

 

 

And? Those are the teens that need to stop having babies and so they are the ones that the solution has to work for.

 

 

 

That's exactly why I described abstinence as pre-1950's - something that may have worked before but isn't suited to the youths of today.

Don't be ridiculous. You're saying that because teens have no self-control, we should just let them act however they want and try to narrow the consequences. That's like saying if I have urges to kill somebody, I should just kill dogs and hope that my urges are momentarily satisfied.

What if teenagers today have no self-control because they're primary role models, they're parents, have no self-control and they aren't taught to be responsible for their actions or even to have good behavior (for most schools are anti-gang instead of pro-working together)? Maybe that's why we have no self-control in today's culture.

ah so this is where the overpopulation is coming from :-k

the world population is going to double within the next 50 years, but probably even more at this rate.

I'd prefer to have sex once I'm actually married. Not before.

Then people have no idea what takes grown men to be poligamic during marriages.