sees_all1

I agree mining is boring, and powermining is worse... If jagex gave us a "dump all" option, powermining would be about 4x easier. If you're trying to train mining by coal... don't do it. Train with iron. Its about 4x faster, for 1/2 the xp each. Meaning you have to dump more, but the time between dumps is so much faster. And smithing the most efficient way by just using bars is a huge money waster. Smelting into bars isn't very time efficient, but it is cheap/makes money. I could also say - "Cooking, don't do it- waste of time." Most of the time its cheaper to buy the finished product than it is to buy the ingredients (I'm thinking swordfish and lobsters... tuna potatoes not so much).

The harpoon - a new range weapon that impales the opponent, then draws them closer for a few DDs specs. Since most other equipment is wieldable, sure... good addition. +1 support.

This brings the number of bugs in the GOP to 101. Meh. Jagex needs to get on this. Figure they don't because <2% of the rs population has higher than 50 rc :P

Right, but anyone who can pay $5 can post there... so I don't think the introduction of F2Pers into the RSOF would make it worse. For instance, TIF allow f2pers, but TIF seems to have a bit more class than the RSOF. Not saying that one causes the other... but I think you'll still get the same distribution added, maybe even a little higher quality because they're higher levels.

Coorslights.... got the screenie, will update when i have time.

From Mod MMG's post F2Pers in the RSOF? Is Jagex giving F2Per's everything!?!?! So, the debate. Should high level f2pers get access to the RSOF? What should be the minimum level requirement for f2p access? IF you are answering "no, they shouldn't", please give an appropriate reason why not, and not just "they don't pay" - and try not to repeat other people's responses, unless you can give their idea in a different light. IF you are answering "yes, they should", please give at least a minimum level and a justification for it. My opinion: From what I've heard, the RSOF is trash anyway, and a minimum level requirement in general might do it some good. Considering the fact that there are 15 f2p skills, and it takes a little dedication to get any skill above 50, I'd say the minimum total level for a f2per to post on the RSOF to be 759 OR have been a member at any point in time prior. Debate:

Thanks! You too! Today I was on and off, I did a little (and mind you, little) bit of strength training for 30 minutes. I was in world 21, training on Moss Giants. Came back from moss giants, had about 6 lobsters left. Saw that there was a level 96 training at Lesser Demons. Well, I don't think he saw me, so I went fishing. Filled up my inventory with lobs, and went back to where he was. Looked like he was AFK... he had pretty low HP, and didn't respond. 2 hits for 25 HP, and he's dead. Didn't take a screenie, but I got: -Rune Scimitar -Rune 2H -Rune Full Helm -Amulet of Power -Lobsters -3/4 Str Pot. Went to go bank in lumbridge, kept 6 lobsters in my inventory and teleported to cabbage patch. There was a level 99 who was maging, cast teleblock on me. I fought for a little bit, but he got me to 18 HP and I had to run with 1 lobster left. I get to the bank with a little HP to spare, no problem. Anyhow, I wanted to get back to the moss giants, so I walked back that way. I had 6 lobsters. I figured he'd be busy with someone else. Turns out I was wrong. Well, I had 75% run... ran to the docks; realized that I needed to recharge on prayer, and he stopped hitting me. Started walking to the altar, when BAM! I was bound. Ok, no big deal... I'll just go *RING RING RING* - telephone rings. OH CRAP, no portable in reach, and my dad is yelling at me from the other room to pick it up. FFS; I can't teleport, log, or ask him to quit. And the phone is on its second ring; 2 more to go before I'm in trouble. AHCK; gotta leave. Set the laptop down, run to the phone, turns out my sister needs picked up, alright. Get back to the laptop, and I'm already in lumbridge. I hope he had a high drop table... got a corrupt dragon something. Who knows; I lost about 250K from it. :wall: :wall:

if you know what you want to say, and the exact language, just press "enter enter", type it in, and then you'll get search results. Its what I do.

If its mousekeys, maybe you're moving your mouse a bit too linearly? That would be an indication of a macro, something that hits its target dead on, every single time, instead of overshooting, or going at a perfect horizontal, and then down a perfect vertical. I know I can't do that with a mouse. Or it could also be how mousekeys would take triggers away from their JVM, and they would detect that... Strange though, I hope Jagex gets it together.

Alright, I'm nearing 1000 total level. Thought I would let you guys know a little bit about me. BTW - my defense level is 51. Looks like I've been bumped off the top 2 million, but DEF is something I don't want to raise quite yet. [hide=personal stuff]I think I've been playing RS since about 2005; I showed the kids I babysat miniclip, they found runescape, showed me it. I thought it was ... well, stupid to be honest. But then I found the joy of player killing, and I've been hooked ever since. I'm a freshmen at Purdue University, I'm studying electrical engineering. In high school I was in TechHOUNDS, a FIRST Robotics team. It basically ruled my life; I was the lead programmer for my junior and senior year. That said, I enjoy programming. I started a few projects, but never really completed anything. My latest project was with two other guys, and it was to mimic the game CDOGS (search for it if you haven't played it... its awesome). We programmed in JAVA, the graphics were a bear to do. Never really got the multiplayer working correctly, might have been because our school's network was locked down pretty tight. I might post a video of it if I find the time.... Other than computers, I also like to bike ride. I'm training right now for the RAIN (Ride Across INdiana), its 160 miles, one day, one way. I also enjoy the Hilly Hundred.[/hide] [hide=account history]My first account was banned due to macroing, and to be honest I don't even remember it's name. I thought I could cheat the system when I was away at school - Turns out jagex is pretty good at detecting macros, or this thing was stupid. It was funny, one day when I got back, the thing had about 100 mystery boxes stacked... I probably gained a total of 10k combat xp from macroing before I was banned, definitely was not worth it. No worries though, the other levels on that account stunk, so I didn't have a hard time making a new one... Sees_all1 was born. I think I might have tried to use eyeseesall, that was my old AIM address (i'm never on it anymore; besides I use GAIM now :P), or I changed to sees_all1 because I didn't want any of my AIM friends to connect the two. Shortly after I created Sees_all2 and S33s_all; 2 was a mage pure and s33s_all was a range pure. Runes were expensive, and I hate range, so neither of the two are used today. I think s33s_all still has a skull, has always been f2p, and is under combat level 20. So, I have a rare account :P. Lets see, just before the wilderness update, I created Sqelt and Sbelt. I thought it was cool that I had accounts with no numbers. Both of these were mage pures, and I think I had one at some level higher than the other, so when I was collecting runes at the Dark Warrior's fortress, I could log into the other and kill someone if they annoyed me. Sbelt has nothing now, and Sqelt is used for FoG and questing with my little sister's account. Oh, and I have 2 more accounts - Chubbypickel and Cloned_Jesus. Chubby was made for my guide - How to make 1 mil in 48 hours after "Learning the Ropes", and Cloned Jesus was made for recruiting clan wars. I have no intention of keeping either. So lets see, 1 active main, 1 semi-active side, 5 unused, and 1 banned account. Hmmm.... that's alot. I guess I never really thought about all of them as being too many. And I guess if you see any of them logged in anywhere, you can say "Hyt", and know it's me.[/hide] [hide=My F2P Bank]Let me see... this bank shot is current as of 2/15/09, no its not for sale Once again, its all f2p stuff, valued at ~22 million, and near the holidays +6 million.[/hide] [hide=Current Goals]Lets see, I'm going to get all my levels above 60, and my RC Level to 70. Eventually I'd Like to have 99 in every stat, but the order in which I do that may be a little whacked. Hmmm... If I were to plan it out, I'd say -Strength -Magic -Runecrafting ... defense and attack would probably be near the end of the list. IDK why, but I've never liked those stats. Oh, and Range would be dead last, Range is my LEAST favorite skill. I don't plan on making Sees_all1 a member ever, I think if I reached that point I'd make Sqelt a member. It seems I'd be wasting a whole lot of effort I put into a F2P account, kinda like the people with 99 in runecrafting felt when the GOP came out, "meh, RC is easy now." I will update this with goals once I get started on something. I will also post my methods, and give credit to whatever guides I use.[/hide] [hide=a few of my favorite threads]These are the threads I've created/have had Significant contribution to. I'll enjoy it if you visit these / bump a few : : viewtopic.php?f=143&t=775023 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=781544 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=781196 viewtopic.php?f=113&t=777291 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=773824 viewtopic.php?f=180&t=747672[/hide] [hide=MORE STUFF, IRL]I've got a goal to do 100 things before I graduate college. If you have any good ideas, go ahead and post. Ideas must be at least semi-legal, and picture appropriate (pg-13). Examples of things on the list: Make Thermite Will it Blend? Firecrackers Obtain 10 lawn gnomes Stay awake for 72 hours straight. Right now I've got about 80 things on my list, but I need 100. Also, if it totals over 100, I may take out a few of the easier ones, or set new challenges.[/hide] -sees_all1

This brings the total count of bugs in the GOP to well over 100. Interesting to note that if you're alone, and the other team scores no orbs, you'll get (number in +1) ess at the end of each round.

PLEASE modify your post so that there are breaks in between the spells, OR Something similar to SPELL NAME - LVL - DESCRIPTION Condemnation of Death 77 Lowers prayer by 20% Piercing Presense 80 Lowers defense by 20% Would make it much easier to critique. Are these spells in a new book altogether, can you merge the standard book with this? Is there a new quest involved? Is it F2P/P2P? How many runes do each take? Is there a new type of rune involved? Can they be auto-casted? What is the chance of splashing?

that may work better than WASD for movement... especially when PKing or playing the GOP. For some reason WASD is just more comfortable for my left hand to use than the arrow keys.

No I am not making up any statistics and yes I fully read your statement. Now, it takes 0gp total to mine and craft a nature rune, if you don't include the OPPORTUNITY COST. Now as for the price, the street (aka market) price for runes has always been lower than what it is in the shops - even before runecrafting came out. You seem to be under the impression that runecrafting introduces free nature runes into the game...and I'm simply trying to tell you that's not the case. So sure, 20 billion might be disappearing from the game via the loss of runecrafting, but players would turn around and do something different for money and reintroduce that 20 billion back into the game. The way to look at it is via opportunity cost. Yesterday I bought 1k nature runes, and I smithed 1k mithril bars. Thats because the opportunity cost for doing so was about 10 gp per bar, worth it for the smithing xp. All other things equal, and Had it been 150 gp per bar, it would not have been worth it, therefore I would not have bought 1k nats, and I believe other players would be the same way.

This happens many times at the Moss Giants on Crandor in F2P - some nub ranger will have rapid on, and take whatever giant spawns whenever. It stinks because they kill them as fast as I kill mine + respawn rate... and sometimes to really make things worse, they'll alternate between 2 at once just for the heck of it. Its why I like the introduction of PVP... I can go there with full hp, good armour, and any nub ranger who gets on is going to get KO'd.

Its only annoying when you're at a popular F2P spot and theres about 10 people at the same thing (Willows...) And another person walks up or walks by and says "WC Lvls?" And then you get to see everyone's stats again. For the 10th time. I suppose that being said, I've learned to go elsewhere to level.

I didn't mind watching the first video ad. But when I logged out, switched worlds, and had to watch another? Or If I logged out again to switch worlds, still yet another? Oh, and when 1/2 the ads were for FunOrb, don't tell me those ads were making Jagex money. And quit dogging about how Jagex's goal is to make money, and when they don't, you're unhappy for them. You're not Jagex, give it a rest. And if you were Jagex, you might understand that the video adverts, while in the short run made "significantly more money", in the long run could have caused less from people quitting or becoming disinterested in the game. For every player that gets turned off at F2P is one less member waiting to happen.

I'm not getting how those are cool... unless you just want to show all of TIF that you have 7 usernames, 2 of which are muted/banned.

As long as they don't take out High Level Alchemy, the number of GP in the game will only continue to rise. As soon as they nerf alching, then things will get out of hand. Anyhow, this may just be signs of the GE lagging. Or its subject to FIFO - First In, First Out. Since there are so many different items with so many different players buying and selling at so many different prices, it could make it a CS nightmare to match everything up. I'm still amazed that the GE still works.

I've got adblock plus installed... I manually changed it to allow adverts from jagex. TBH I really wanted to delete that exception, but I figure that's how I pay my dues on F2P. I'll try the config thing though... we'll see what happens.

I thought you were talking about the end of the emote, when you become really big... I think that's the real glitch, not the fact you were stupid enough to be emoting when you shouldn't have been emoting.

Whos' going to explain it to this one? killerwatt - find and post screenies of about 10 people, and get your post count to well above 2k before you ask to be spotted. Even I know this, and I don't play the game. :P

:lol: =D> :lol: Nice fail; have some fail-cake. It was baked especially for people like you. Even Jagex's CEO disagrees with you. OT: I modified the first post to reflect this recent change in events. Hopefully this will allow the discussion to open up and expand into different areas what we've not seen before. I like a good discussion. I think giving anything to F2P which would allow them to level a little bit faster, yet also make a member's life easier / cheaper / level faster is a win-win situation.

I feel like this would cheapen the value of certain rare items...

What about skills that are worthless to raise after a certain level? I'd say that RC gives rewards for all the levels, like Smithing, prayer. -Mining would be cut after level 85. -F2P magic loses its value after 59... or cmb lvl 50, whichever comes first -Firemaking loses all value after f2p 60... and even then wasn't useful to begin with -All pures know that defense is the most useless skill ever -All tanks know that strength and attack are the most useless skill ever IMO Range, and Crafting are pretty worthless, especially in F2P. They're the skills I don't get any use out of :P.