Billy Key

Oh wow, Paperclip21, it's a surprise to see that name :D Gratz DF, congratz to HP aswell for making it as close fought as it was! :thumbsup:

I think BK is doing quite the opposite of slumping at the moment, we have been increasing our numbers throughout the Jagex cup :D saying that, I wont say that you are wrong to expect TRWF to come away with the victory as that is what most of the clan world is expecting, we would love to cause another upset though and we will give it our best shot. BK seems to do well as the underdog and with the enormous amount of retireds we have we might be able to surprise some people with our turnout (as we did with the pull of 62 against FT) Now that DI, DF and TT are through, BK v TRWF is the last of this round and I think the winner will have a difficult job in the next round. TRWF v BK = Depending on the pulls it could be close and it could not, I think TRWF have the potential to pull a massive amount of people and while BK has the same potential we rely on our retireds to make a showing and for the most part those people are retired for good reason. I don't see either clan winning against DI and I don't see TT beating DF so as most people seem to think I believe it will be a DI v DF final and I think that DI could surprise people.

gf od it was fun!

GF AoD, when you piled me I was really looking forward to trying to tank you and when I used my ring it seemed as though no one could keep up :oops: it was a good fight, we have a new cabbage king aswell! :thumbsup: GJ BKC, we are on a really nice streak, this is the second fight we have won while being out leveled and we won convincingly yet again so I am really proud of you

Is that the second war in a row we haven't lost anyone? you cadets are awesome gf zdzira, I couldn't make this fight :(

Nicely done KTS! :thumbsup:

GF PKM! we haven't had a fight that small for along while in BK, looks like fun though! :thumbsup:

Depends on numbers, if you have a decent amount of people and think you can go for the ko why not go for a fall in leader or an amazing hybrid? Also another important factor when you have high numbers is how many people can get a click on the person you want to pile first. Low numbers I would say NOT to go for the lowest level, that can end badly if the person knows what they are doing because most likely they will expect it :D I always remember the time I was the lowest level in a 20 v 20, I was 110 and there were only 2 other people below 120 in the whole fight, I got piled first (obviously) and managed to stay alive for 2 kills and I am not some amazing tank lol, I was simply prepared to be piled.

Anyone who did go there just for the set probably isn't bothered about Exodus and will probably leave at the first sign of trouble. Trouble hits any clan so I think they can expect it to backfire slightly in the future. How badly I am not sure though. I don't think clans should try to influence people on where they go unless the person asks to be influenced. I will be keeping an eye on it though because it could be interesting :D

It's an invasion of 'the' old and new! :D nah I am sure you will do a good job although it is getting a bit 'the' heavy up there (I am including Enzock in that though :oops: )

Greywanderer came back to BK not too long ago aswell but he has disappeared again unfortunately :( I always enjoy looking at histories, the owner of Dark Edge is creating a history at the moment aswell I believe. BK's history is pretty cool because it's updated by all sorts of different members of leadership over the 8 years in which BK has existed, different styles of writing, different points of view and stuff. We still try to keep it up to date although we do occasionally slack off with it and forget to update it :oops: It could be useful if you do decide to create a full history because we have dated everything roughly :D

GJ! Sorry I didn't make it :(

We've been #2 in our time, we have beaten most #1 clans at one time or another in the past, there is no reason we wouldn't :D

FT Crimson Raiders or Runescape Elites?

GF TBE, you did well to keep it close for so long by the looks of the video! :thumbsup: I was out so couldn't be there unfortunately, parties probably effected both clan's turn outs pretty badly but fortunately we managed to pull more people and come away with the win, cheers for the fight!

I agree that it is a two handed sword but if there is a problem as there appears to be in this case then I personally would try to go about fixing rather than making a move that you know they will dislike. Maybe as a member of leadership in my own clan I am slightly biased :oops: I can see why you are frustrated though :D and honestly I like the post, I found it pretty interesting :thumbsup:

BK, being an old clan, with plenty of old members (we have maybe 80+ retireds :D) has had some similar problems to those stated with the whole "we have been alive for 8 years so there couldn't possibly be a problem with how things are run but I think we have come to realise that it doesn't work like that and I think that with one of the oldest leadership groups we have had (in terms of time in the clan, the lowest is a year and a half) we have one of the most open minded lots about being willing to change and I think the way we don't discount things that are said automatically because they may be troublesome is getting us places at the moment. We are all having fun. Saying that I also agree with how people in leadership are chosen. It may not always be the right people but BK has always allowed the clan to vote on leadership and then re vote in 3 months, so we have a consistant turnover in leadership which I believe is useful. I am looking at the parts of that post that I read (most of it, I am in a rush though) and recognising it, fortunately I believe BK may be moving past that after being in the same mind set for the last 2 + years :D it is interesting although I can't say I agree with attempting to undermine leadership if that is what this is an attempt to do, that can also be a thing that leads to problems. A mutual sense of respect between leadership and members is to me one of the more important things that is needed in maintaining a successful clan.

miniwars to me are pretty any war up to a 1 week prep. If it gets longer than a 1 week prep then I think you can call it a fullout war, in that prep you can make sure everyone is ready for the fight and everyone knows about it and you can even get a few levels for it. Wars for ranks aswell I consider as fullout wars simply because they are generally more important to the clans taking part than wars that are made just so that there is a fight

Tri, I've never really heard of NBK, sorry :oops: MoD or Gladz?

Oooh thought you lot weren't posting this fight :D Yeah cheers for the fight, RoT cancelled because "their leader died in a car crash" which apparently is code for "we want to go P2P pking" and we really needed an opponent and we knew we were going to get a decent turnout as we had a week prep so we thought we would go for a big clan. Thanks to Corr for accepting on such short notice! The fight started really close with the clans swapping the lead which got us quite excited, I say swapping, we took the lead once :oops: at about 32 v 32 Corr got a couple of ko's and got it to 32 v 30 and BK never recovered. Corr's consistant tanking and awesome binding were too much in the end and they began to get ko's and opened the lead up ending with lots of people left :thumbsup: I got basically 1 hit :( I decided I would be brave with my robes and kept them on when Corr charged and payed the price, I am used to being able to take chances and get away with it but with Corr's awesome binding I only got my helmet on and ate 2 pizza halves. GF Corr, had alot of fun, my binds seem to be hitting every time which was nice, I am glad we fought you, it was a good experience for us

yep it certainly is! :D I probably spam traded so much that the fall in leaders were wondering if I really meant it. 1 kill, 5 deaths, gf MoD

Gratz Gladz, looks like the numbers made this fight very difficult for exodus but you still had to get the win and you did :thumbsup:

Goodjob CE and very impressive levels :thumbsup:

Its because dieing clans like to bump dead topics, because their going to be knowing each other soon. It must be nice when you can hop to power house clans and call every clan you dislike dead :D Unfortunately though, over 40 members to a week prep and over 30 to a 1 day prep would mean that there are alot of living dead clans :oops: And to quote Gladz, (unless you join 'THE' or the sabres in the next few weeks this will remain true): We have been dieing longer than your clans have even existed. (I changed it to the plural especially for you ) On a side note I don't know why you were flame baited but it was 1 member and not the whole clan so calm down duck

I think BK Ownz U was a leader back then, not completely sure though as I didn't even know about clans at that time, he was a leader at some point around then though and he did have a problem with some of the alliance, some of the oldest topics in this forum are about the alliance, they're kind of interesting, from like late 05 onwards :D In my opinion BK v Gladz would be a rivalry if the clans were allowed to act upon it. Unfortunately Gladz have accused us of cheating in our past wars and have also accused us of being NH in the past and so while some Gladz members would like a war to happen as much as most BK members would, the leadership refuse to war us. It is a shame because it could be a quality rivalry :cry: